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Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Gr33nLungz

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Using a 3.7 v 1.5 ohm on an atmos battery... Good vapor for the first week or so loading .3-.7 in the cart with a fill tool.. Seems to clog fastter then it should though not being able to run through 3 grams which would make me happy, probably only 1.5 until the air path is clogged beyond repair even with hot needle or paper clip, or turning over and torching to get out some gunk.., vapor quality also significantly declines after a week or so of use.. Idk if there is enough power coming from the atmos battery to sufficiently vape my erl which then causes it to gunk up the heater, but during the first gram of oil i can get pretty good tasty clouds so the atmos battery seems sufficient.
 
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OF

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Idk if there is enough power coming from the atmos battery to sufficiently vape my erl which then causes it to gunk up the heater, but during the first gram of oil i can get pretty good tasty clouds so the atmos battery seems sufficient.

Howdy, welcome to the Forum. Sorry you're having trouible but I don't think they're at all uncommon and can't be fixed if you want.

I actually think it's the other way around, too much power. More than you're able to keep under control it seems? The " turning over and torching to get out some gunk..," part is scary by itself. That's not part of normal maintenance. If your concentrate is that 'dirty' as to need that it's jamming up the wicks low down where you can't clean it out anyway.

My advice is put down the 1.5s. Get some 2.4s and stick with them until you master them. Honestly own the cart, don't get seduced by bigger clouds the easy way. Learn to control the heat so the carts don't jam up then go for more. You'll find they stay fresh tasting longer that way too.

Now you're cooking stuff after more vapor, mostly because you can. Should is something else.

I know you don't want to hear 'go smaller and really learn before you mess with more power', but that's my advice. If you hang around a bit, you'll find it's usually successful.

Welcome to the fun, good luck with your vape.

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Gr33nLungz

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Thanks for the welcome.. Turning over and torching is definetly more of a last resort technique as the cart is providing poor quality vapor and is clogged more then digging down in the airway will clear.. Yes i wouldn't reccomend it if you are fond of your carts because I did trash the first one by applying heat For to long. As for my concentrates I am not worried about being the problem I am new to oil pens but learned not to put any second run or dark shit in the pens, only the golden honey, and stuff I make tends to come out petty fluffy after a few days of drying and seems like it should be a consistency to vape,. Without torching, can heating the cartridge too much change the consistency and destroy oil inside your cartridge making it more likely to jam it up? Because the stuff going in looks a lot better then the goop I scrape out/torch out.. In the case that you would want to keep your cart from gettin too high of a temp then yes I think a 2.4 would be better to start off with.. I don't understand what you mean by "now your cooking stuff after more vapor.."
 
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Gr33nLungz

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And I know the 1.5 is supposed to run hottest I just meant is the atmos battery not supplying enough juice to be able to run at what i want
 
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Gr33nLungz

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Why did you switch from the atmos cart and what do you like more about the omicron? I like that you can fill a lot more in the omicron but it makes me a little uneasy not being able to see your oil, unlike the atmos with the dab right on the coil.. Did switching to different batteries make a difference in cart life/ vape quality
 
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530rasta

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Hello,

Is there anywhere in the Bay Area that I can purchase a V2.5? or should I just get it online? Also is there any good concentrates (besides the pure gold) that you guys know of at dispensaries and can recommend for this vape? Ill be down for 4/20 and wouldnt mind getting a bit to last me at least a few carts...

I have never used a vape pen before so i am a rookie to this area for sure. I am not new to our 'industry' so to speak ;)

I have been running a SOLO for about a year now and love it. Amazing pice but I am just looking for something a bit more stealth from time to time, this is where I hope the omicron will come in handy.

so yeah let me know, thanks
 
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OF

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In the case that you would want to keep your cart from gettin too high of a temp then yes I think a 2.4 would be better to start off with.. I don't understand what you mean by "now your cooking stuff after more vapor.."

Yes, that's exactly it. Too much heat is driving some of the light components off right away (the ones that taste good....) and burning (destroying) much of what's left. When you melted the goods out it came out different color and smelling bad, right? If it was dinner out of the oven what would you think had happened? Same thing here. Too much heat for too long while not being able to escape the cart as sweet vapor. Overcooked. All from being pushed harder and harder for more clouds.

And I know the 1.5 is supposed to run hottest I just meant is the atmos battery not supplying enough juice to be able to run at what i want

You're welcome.

Yes, they do run hotter than 2.4s, that's the problem I think. You're not unable to make vapor, at first it's great you just beat it to death flogging it to go faster and faster.....your horse is now broken down and ready for the glue factory.

The Atmos battery is OK for 1.5s, it will drive them 'to specs' for at least a short while. Mine did when new (yes, I tested, but not with carts) and no doubt still do. Marginal, but your problem is they're still getting that cart too hot for what you do with it. 2.4s will be much harder to get into such trouble with. You can still do it if you try harder, but you'll get more margin for error. Learn on them. Once you trash a cart, it's trash.

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Gr33nLungz

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I just feel like its kind of hard to not place that much heat on your oil using these cartridges regardless of the ohms although the 2.4 would definetly not deteriorate your oil as quick, but especially using the fill tool to melt it into the device is a lot of heat righ there.. the device is good but when your holding a gram of oil in there and your heating it up so constantly i feel like by the time you get .6 the last of the oil inside that hasnt made it down to the wick has been heated so many time that its not the same oil you first put inside of it
 
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OF

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I just feel like its kind of hard to not place that much heat on your oil using these cartridges regardless of the ohms although the 2.4 would definetly not deteriorate your oil as quick, but especially using the fill tool to melt it into the device is a lot of heat righ there.. the device is good but when your holding a gram of oil in there and your heating it up so constantly i feel like by the time you get .6 the last of the oil inside that hasnt made it down to the wick has been heated so many time that its not the same oil you first put inside of it

You really should read about the experience here. There's a lot of material, but lots good in there, and search does work OK if you give it a chance. The near universal experience is your take is wrong in key areas. I suggest, as Dreamer does, block out some time and read the thread 'backwards' (in blocks), there are some real gems in there. No need for you to make the same mistakes the rest of us did.

Don't load a gram, that's a proven problem. Load half a gram at most when new. Weigh your cart before and refill when you get to .2 grams from new. Leaks and plugging (like you're getting) happen here. As does slower action on each hit, but the secondary heater is on full time heating the goods in the reservoir....or over heating them.

You need to be very careful in loading. "using the fill tool to melt it into the device is a lot of heat" is not right. You need to understand the technique, follow the instructions and preheat the center of the cart so you can then heat the goods as little as possible, just enough to get them to flow. The tube has to be hot so it'll slide past. You're tying to get it to flow, not blast it.

The bottom line is hundreds of us have mastered this complex system, but few have done so randomly. Which is why we give the advice we do.......

Your call, of course. Good luck.

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Gr33nLungz

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And when do you like to stop loading oil into the cart and consider it done? im sure i could keep loading more oil in there but i dont wanna waste any and put oil into a less then satisfying cart
 
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Gr33nLungz

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yes the search function might cut down on some recycling of information, but sometimes it is a good thing to ask something someone else said in a diferent way that way someone else reading may be able to read it from anoter point of view or wording and it might make more sense..but i know you were only mentioning so i dont waste any more money not to heckle(maybe).. wasnt being pessimistic or anything just sharing my expirience so far
 
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OF

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And when do you like to stop loading oil into the cart and consider it done? im sure i could keep loading more oil in there but i dont wanna waste any and put oil into a less then satisfying cart

Done 'right' you can usually get carts to foul out (slow feeding, reduced output, longer times) rather than get overheated, jam too bad, or leak to death. Die of old age, rather than youthful indiscretion if you will. When you decide to put Granny in the home is largely up to you. With good concentrates I get bored around 3 grams give or take and instantly shift to easier and thicker vapor but hopefully not to radically improved taste. If you open one up inside at this point, this is what you see (after cleaning it up, of course):


Notice the junk that wouldn't evaporate away has plugged the wicks right where they feed into the furnace (that black junk wasn't in the oil I put in). That which made it through there died on the ash pile forming the scab on the heater (forcing the vapor out cracks like a comet head or something). This one would still be working and basically tasting OK but would take some extra heat control to get it working right and keep it there. When new they ramp up and down faster and easier. And the vapor production would be lower until it got really going since the wicks are blocked so completely. Like old plumbing.

So, with experience, you learn to tell by performance drop it's time to retire rather than refill the cart.

yes the search function might cut down on some recycling of information, but sometimes it is a good thing to ask something someone else said in a diferent way that way someone else reading may be able to read it from anoter point of view or wording and it might make more sense..but i know you were only mentioning so i dont waste any more money not to heckle(maybe).. wasnt being pessimistic or anything just sharing my expirience so far

No, I mentioned it because it was a serious suggestion.

While I understand your point in the general case, that's not the case here by a long measure. Your issues and approach are far from uncommon. The fact remains that we've been over this not a few but dozens of times. The same new guy information. And I end up doing it a LOT. Notice all those posts under my oft noted lack of Icon? Hundreds of them cover half a dozen subjects over and over and over and over using the same words. Carefully chosen words for the most part.

Part of it was a personal request I guess, but I don't expect t hat to carry any weight. Let me put your hypothetical case back to you, 'I think you'll find useful information in there you haven't thought to ask'. I understand it's easier to ask, but looking it up also works. I've no intent to keep answering the same sorts of questions forever for you. When I stop, some else will surely pick up the same torch and carry on. I'm not making this up. Your call.

These carts are great performers. Look at this and the Omicron forum, over 20,000 posts mostly from happy owners. But you have to deal with it as it is, not as you think it should be. That means learning, not assuming.

Sorry to be blunt, but that's how I'm honestly seeing it. If you want to get the most of this fine system, you'll be well served to do your home work.

hope my post doesnt get lost? hehe

Not to worry, DubC will no doubt be dropping by. He knows every loose V2 in NorCal I think. He'll give you several shops with stock no doubt, I can't for sure. I think Harborside (Oakland) had them last I looked.

I assume you're going to the show in San Jose? Check these guys out, they're near by and have excellent (if a little pricey) goods:
http://elementalwellnesscenter.com/menu/index.php

Lots of interesting bubble (not useful with Omicron of course) and some interesting looking shatters, but not much in the way of oils or waxes right now, but that changes daily. Note if you have email access you can order stuff for 24 hours will call hold. Be sure you stick to 'sure bets' (stay clear of full melts, look for light colors). All the goods there are lab tested (which costs more but give insurance in quality and potency).

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poonman

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And when do you like to stop loading oil into the cart and consider it done? im sure i could keep loading more oil in there but i dont wanna waste any and put oil into a less then satisfying cart

Weigh an EMPTY cart first .
Then weigh the cart after filling .
Also weigh out your budda/wax/oil before loading if you can .
 
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Kushtoker630

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hey THC SCIENTIFIC i was wondering if i could buy an hvd in matte black and get a 2.0 head with it too? got the 2.5 from my lhs and am more than satisfied but i feel it doesent look as good as the 2.0 imo thanks and hope to hear back
 
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DubCRider

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Hello,

Is there anywhere in the Bay Area that I can purchase a V2.5? or should I just get it online? Also is there any good concentrates (besides the pure gold) that you guys know of at dispensaries and can recommend for this vape? Ill be down for 4/20 and wouldnt mind getting a bit to last me at least a few carts...

I have never used a vape pen before so i am a rookie to this area for sure. I am not new to our 'industry' so to speak ;)

I have been running a SOLO for about a year now and love it. Amazing pice but I am just looking for something a bit more stealth from time to time, this is where I hope the omicron will come in handy.

so yeah let me know, thanks


Where will you be located in the Bay Area? Let me know here or send a PM.
 
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chimpybits

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Hey Omicronians, I've been following this thread recently and am thinking of jumping on this 420 sale and buying the Omi Light and a 5 pack of cartridges: 2.4 ohm for 3.7v.

I've been wanting a portable for months now since I've given up on my MFLB (which I find to be too weak). The portable will only be used when out-and-about - never at home where my SSV waits patiently for me. I want something smaller than the Solo and decidedly more powerful than the MFLB. I walk and cycle (no car) so smaller and lighter is preferred and I want shorter (potent) sessions.

I've been following various relevant threads here - this one, the Persei, the Thermovapes, the cheaper pen vapes, and the Inhalator XP - which was the prime candidate. Recently however I have gained access to dispensaries and therefore quality concentrates. I've never dabbed and have no experience with oils, waxes, butters, or shatter. I'd like to try some concentrates and I need a portable so I thought of these D9 vapes. I was interested in the Thermovape Revo when it was in production, but had no access to concentrates at that time. The Cera was eliminated the moment I saw a pic of it.

The most prominent negatives for me of the D9 vapes is the expense and waste of the carts and the large 0.5-1 g capacity. I expect it to take a long time to finish a cart as I will only use when out and my daily consumption is around 0.3g/day of flowers. I assume the cart is a pretty good storage medium for the concentrate?

On the other hand, I can imagine it is pretty sweet to have a small portable with ample product and battery charge. (No more carrying spare MFLB batteries and herb). As my finances are quite tight at present the cheaper Omi Light appeals. I like that it is smaller and simpler than the Persei (which has more options and therefore decisions) and naturally I'm hoping that it's performance is adequate.

Anyway, is there anything else I should buy from D9 other than the Omi Light and the 5 carts? I suppose I could also buy a 1.5 ohm cart as an alternative. (I know the recommendation is to master the 2.4's first).

I see I might also have to buy a torch lighter and a scale, but am hoping I can manage with a bic and eyeballing.

Any other thoughts / recommendations?
 
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