Iolite vaporiser

I didn't even think of the sucking method. It's certainly a good option. I still like the idea of measured 'preloads' though.

The only gripe I have with the II is when bud gets stuck on the heat pin and falls out. I try the tapping thing, but it just keeps on happening. It's very rare though.

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It keeps on happening but it's very rare? Sorry man. I couldn't resist. Herb sticking to the pin is really, really rare with me. Look at the positive side. Be glad you've got sticky weed.

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The only gripe I have with the II is when bud gets stuck on the heat pin and falls out. I try the tapping thing, but it just keeps on happening. It's very rare though.

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It keeps on happening but it's very rare? Sorry man. I couldn't resist. Herb sticking to the pin is really, really rare with me. Look at the positive side. Be glad you've got sticky weed.

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Your right. That makes no sense. It sounded right when I was high while writing it. So yeah the preloaded bowls sound like a great idea if they are not to much money. I am kind of cheap when it comes to buying more shit than I need. Their screens are enough as it is. I do with they would sell the screens seperately. I have done good with saving the disk with the whole in it and finding the exact screen that fits it in a smoke shop. All I do is change the little screen and clean the disk with iso alcohol. The bottom screen is a pain. I tried to make one, but I have not been succesful. I wish they would sell these solo.

it never happen to me to....grind your herb finner buddha pretty sure it will help

So yeah the preloaded bowls sound like a great idea if they are not to much money.

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I was thinking of using the top of a two piece ball point pen with an eraser or something as a plug. Something with little or no cost to it anyway.

I do wish they would sell the screens seperately.

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You can get one screen from Vaporstore. The 'pin screen' (lower) is still pricy at $4.95. I can't see that. It's just a screen with a hole in the middle. Not that hard to make your own. They also have the herb chamber/mouthpiece combo for $20 (hopefully that comes with a top screen). Cheaper than buying from I-inhale in Ireland anyway (unless you're in the UK).

Speaking of buying from Ireland/UK, the best prices I've seen on the I-inhale have been UK sellers on eBay. Even with shipping to the US, they beat the best US prices by a good margin ($150-160 range for some auctions, including shipping )

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3. This is a big one. I am not sure because I did not test this before, but I noticed my new one is louder than my GF's. I also noticed I was getting really blasted today during my lunch break ritual. I said hold on a minute and when I got home decided to test the theory so I took out the heat pin and screen and basically pointed a laser thermometer into the top directly into the little whole where the heat pin should be. My observation was correct as my GF's only got to a max temp of 350 Fahrenheit. Mine which was brand spanking new was getting readings at 375 Fahrenheit no problem. I believe my GF's might need to be sent back as well.
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Hey buddhaholic420

Any more info on the temperatures of your I-Inhales? I have never really got my to work really well compared to my Eterra. When I measure the temperature if my I-Inhale with an IR Thermometer I usually get about 150 C. The highest I have ever gotten was 160 C. When I measure the temp of my Eterra I get about 210 C so I am sure the thermometer is working ok. I wasn't sure if I was able to put the thermometer in really good position when I measured the I-Inhale's but if you can measure 375 on one and 350 on the other maybe my reading are good.

Welcome bruno. Pretty sure you're the first Eterra owner on the forum. You'll have to tell us how you like it.

When measuring temps don't forget that true vaping temps are achieved when drawing on the vape. So measuring a 'still bowl' doesn't reflect the temp you get during operation.

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Welcome bruno. Pretty sure you're the first Eterra owner on the forum. You'll have to tell us how you like it.

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I have been using it for ~8 years, so I guess I like it. I haven't really had any trouble with it. It has been on continuously most of 8 years.

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When measuring temps don't forget that true vaping temps are achieved when drawing on the vape. So measuring a 'still bowl' doesn't reflect the temp you get during operation.

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Exactly, the Eterra's temp is around 210 so that when you draw on the stem the air that gets sucked through the material is preheated to at least 190 giving a thick vapor. I don't think the I-Inhale uses this method of forced convection to vaporize. It's more of a heated pan or radiant type heating. Either way the bowl on the II should be at least 190.

Actually, both vapes are convection with a little conduction built in. A metal bowl, where the herb contacts the sides of the bowl, provides some conduction heat to go with convection. You do draw air through the bowl with the Inhale, so it does qualify as convection. I'd be very surprised if any company introduced a pure conduction vape to the market at this point. It's well known that it's an inferior design, so even if a vape maker could come up with an efficient design, market sentiment would be against it.

It has been on continuously most of 8 years.

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Interesting. Have you looked at the Purple-Days? The Eterra is the basis for the PD design.

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Thanks for the update. Glad you're getting helpful info from us as well. Posting here helps your company to establish a better relationship with both owners and potential owners, and also helps to make this forum the best source of vapor info for users. It's a win-win situation.

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Actually, both vapes are convection with a little conduction built in. A metal bowl, where the herb contacts the sides of the bowl, provides some conduction heat to go with convection. You do draw air through the bowl with the Inhale, so it does qualify as convection. I'd be very surprised if any company introduced a pure conduction vape to the market at this point. It's well known that it's an inferior design, so even if a vape maker could come up with an efficient design, market sentiment would be against it.

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Almost all current vaps except the II operate mainly by passing hot air through the material (forced convection). Actually the II is very poor at convection. It mainly heats the material by conduction and radiation. That is why it takes 10 to 15 min to get any quality vapor off of it. The II rep has said many times "it is like a bun in the oven, you have to let it heat up". That is not how a convection vaporizer works. You can not draw on the II and get a full breath of 190 C heated air passing over the material.

I agree a conduction vap (like the old dome style) is totally useless and would never want or suggest anyone should use that method.

I really want to like the II but it still needs some work. The catalytic heating method is brilliant. It is what the vap market needed. However, the heat exchanger need to be redesigned. When you draw on the stem you should get 190 C preheated air passing over the material. If (when) they do that the II will be the best vaporizer ever!

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max said:

Actually, both vapes are convection with a little conduction built in. A metal bowl, where the herb contacts the sides of the bowl, provides some conduction heat to go with convection. You do draw air through the bowl with the Inhale, so it does qualify as convection. I'd be very surprised if any company introduced a pure conduction vape to the market at this point. It's well known that it's an inferior design, so even if a vape maker could come up with an efficient design, market sentiment would be against it.

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Almost all current vaps except the II operate mainly by passing hot air through the material (forced convection). Actually the II is very poor at convection. It mainly heats the material by conduction and radiation. That is why it takes 10 to 15 min to get any quality vapor off of it. The II rep has said many times "it is like a bun in the oven, you have to let it heat up". That is not how a convection vaporizer works. You can not draw on the II and get a full breath of 190 C heated air passing over the material.

I agree a conduction vap (like the old dome style) is totally useless and would never want or suggest anyone should use that method.

I really want to like the II but it still needs some work. The catalytic heating method is brilliant. It is what the vap market needed. However, the heat exchanger need to be redesigned. When you draw on the stem you should get 190 C preheated air passing over the material. If (when) they do that the II will be the best vaporizer ever!

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ain't it great that so many people on here know just so much good shit....it's amazing . so much knowledge. and between yiz all these amazing vaporisers are emerging.

only now can this direct feedback between customer (who knows what he wants) and manufacturer actually take place and changes be made on account of these exchanges..amazing stuff.

cheers all

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bruno13 said:

max said:

Actually, both vapes are convection with a little conduction built in. A metal bowl, where the herb contacts the sides of the bowl, provides some conduction heat to go with convection. You do draw air through the bowl with the Inhale, so it does qualify as convection. I'd be very surprised if any company introduced a pure conduction vape to the market at this point. It's well known that it's an inferior design, so even if a vape maker could come up with an efficient design, market sentiment would be against it.

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Almost all current vaps except the II operate mainly by passing hot air through the material (forced convection). Actually the II is very poor at convection. It mainly heats the material by conduction and radiation. That is why it takes 10 to 15 min to get any quality vapor off of it. The II rep has said many times "it is like a bun in the oven, you have to let it heat up". That is not how a convection vaporizer works. You can not draw on the II and get a full breath of 190 C heated air passing over the material.

I agree a conduction vap (like the old dome style) is totally useless and would never want or suggest anyone should use that method.

I really want to like the II but it still needs some work. The catalytic heating method is brilliant. It is what the vap market needed. However, the heat exchanger need to be redesigned. When you draw on the stem you should get 190 C preheated air passing over the material. If (when) they do that the II will be the best vaporizer ever!

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ain't it great that so many people on here know just so much good shit....it's amazing . so much knowledge. and between yiz all these amazing vaporisers are emerging.

only now can this direct feedback between customer (who knows what he wants) and manufacturer actually take place and changes be made on account of these exchanges..amazing stuff.

cheers all

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roney this is the the real net power but......sometimes too much infos could make up your brain...so you need a filter!
bruno...i see you are a eterra veteran but i don't agree with you about the II as a mainly conduction vape, if you were right all my vapes should be conduction vapes for they all need to get the bowl(glass)hot enough to achieve the best vapor. The more you hit the more the II works for it needs to maintain the same temp, a conduction vape simply heat up the bowl regardless of the airflow.
Maybe i'm wrong or maybe you are meaning a different thing!

That is why it takes 10 to 15 min to get any quality vapor off of it.

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We have differing definitions of quality vapor. I've often used it to get quite a good buzz and then shut it down before it was even on for 10 min.

Long time creeper. First time poster. Just got my II. First vape ever! I'm so ridiculously excited I swear I feel like it's my newborn child. Basically it looks and sounds like a handheld Jesus. I will of course add my two cents and all reviews as I get some good face time with the gadget.

Just wanted to include in my first comment that I think the accomplishments on this site and particularly on this thread as well as the dialogue with the II team are a wonderful showing by the vapist community. You guys rock!

Also, just a quick tip because I am also irked by the lack of a fuel window. If you happen to own a digital scale (which some of us might out of sheer coincidence of course), try weighing your *empty* II and recoding the weight. Then fill it and record the weight. Write down these two values or remember them. For quick reference, throw that baby on the scale b4 you leave for a party or something and it gives you a pretty good idea. Works for me. Let me know how it works for you.

one love

ciao rosstipher!
Thanks for joining the forum and for this easy tip for a fast fuel check before i'm leaving home!
It works for me too!

Nice idea rosstipher627 Thanks mate !

To let you guys know (if you dont already), that new iInhales are going very cheap on ebay.co.uk the cheapest i saw one go for is 72 inc post to England. I would imagine Americans and others should get a pretty stonking deal too. Wish me luck in the auctions !

new iInhales are going very cheap on ebay.co.uk the cheapest i saw one go for is 72 inc post to England.

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Just over $100 US. Even the best I-inhale auctions on US eBay are from UK sellers. They're going for as little as $155, including shipping.

I just got my I-inhale a week ago and I have a few comments/questions about the device for the folks at I-inhale.

This is my first vaporizer and I am happy with it. I have had no problems filling, igniting or using it and it works as described. The box it came in is very nice and the carrying case is awesome. The tool and spare screens, mouthpiece and water vapor condenser you throw in for free is also very appreciated. As others have commented, a fuel gauge would be nice but the two hour run time somewhat makes up for this.

What is the recommended procedure for cleaning the unit? I heard of someone who used the standard 420 cleaner that is used for water pipes and he says the water damaged his i-inhale and it doesn't ignite anymore. I've been using an electronics cleaner (contains a volatile, plastic safe hydrocarbon) and q-tips and pipe cleaners. Do you recommend NOT getting the unit wet or immersing it in water?

When using the unit, is it recommended to open the unit to "stir" the herb occasionally? One web site even sells the unit with "stir sticks" included so it seems like others must be doing this. My feeling is that this should not be necessry if the heating efficiency of the herb chamber is good enough. Is it?

About the 2 year warrantee. How do you keep track of when the unit was sold? I bought mine new on E-bay and I did not get a real receipt so should I keep my paypal record as proof of when I bought the unit? I bought mine from a reseller so I don't think I will have this problem, but what if the reseller bought my unit 6 months ago? Would my warrantee start at when I purchased it?

Thanks. I love the unit and if you really make the design changes you talked about, I might buy a second one.

I've had the II since October, when it first came out. I have to say I love the unit. It functions dependably and gets me where I want to go without attracting any attention. A couple of observations:

1. The unit is very durable. I've dropped it several times and it hasn't broken.
2. Not being able to see how much fuel is in there is the biggest complaint... I just keep a can of butane in my car.
3. The mouthpiece has a tendency to get soft with heat and break off in the chamber. That's annoying, but I always keep one extra. They cost about $20. No big deal. That has happened to me 3 times.
4. Filling it is a little tricky.
5. I wish it were easier to clean the fins on the outside. They get dusty and grimy over time. I understand their importance to the design, but it's still kind of a hassle to clean them.

All in all, it's a fantastic product. For what it is designed to do, it's unparalleled.

Is there a distillation of all the above tips? I'll try to summarize those that I remember, and please fill in others that I may miss or correct those that are wrong:

When you get your Iinhale:

* Use a pointing device and release all of the compressed air/gas to flush the
unit.

* Fill with very good burtane (ex. Rhonson). There are many varieties of butane
and some claim a butane must be "super refined". You don't want to give
your unit bad gas.

* The mouthpiece contains a "condenser" piece. Some find it impedes airflow
too much and is hard to keep clean, and they remove it.


* Unit may not light if unit is too cold. Warm in hands. Some folks warm with
hairdryer.

* Grind herb and load unit.
- Many find it useful to fill cap from palm of hand.

* Flip switch to "1"
- you should hear a hiss of gas escaping. If you don't, probably no gas in
tank.

* press plunger: see blue spark though plastic vanes. When gas catches, color
turns golden.

* wait 2, 3 minutes so that unit with herb heats to vaping temp.
- sure you can suck on it: just remember, expect good hits a little later.
Think of it as following along a "Normal" curve. 3 or 4 standard deviations
either way, you're not getting too much.

* even after you switch it off (position "0"), you will hear and see it cycle a few
more times before it ceases. Might as well suck on these, just in case.

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Again, please add or delete as necessary. Oh, and I'm a new member of this site.

Yes, pleased to meet you all.

macbill

Welcome, macbill! Thanks for the summary. Have you stopped by the new members thread to introduce yourself?

Your avatar is hilarious!

On more addition to the list of usage tips:

If your herb is still a little moist and you don't use the little metal condensor, you can sometimes mildly burn your throat with the hot steam coming off the herb. To avoid this and not cut down on airflow, attach a 2 foot (or more) length of silicone tubing to the mouthpiece of the I-inhale. This tubing cools down the vapor without restricting airflow.

attach a 2 foot (or more) length of silicone tubing to the mouthpiece of the I-inhale. This tubing cools down the vapor without restricting airflow.

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I agree, but the tubing doesn't have to be 2' or silicone. 6" of the standard food grade 3/8" (OD) tubing works fine for me. Taking an easier, slower draw can take the place, cooling wise, of the extra length of tubing.

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attach a 2 foot (or more) length of silicone tubing to the mouthpiece of the I-inhale. This tubing cools down the vapor without restricting airflow.

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I agree, but the tubing doesn't have to be 2' or silicone. 6" of the standard food grade 3/8" (OD) tubing works fine for me. Taking an easier, slower draw can take the place, cooling wise, of the extra length of tubing.

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That's definitely a good tip. Also, try taking a slower and smaller draw and positioning your tongue to act as a condenser of sorts (sounds weird, but can be helpful). You really only need to do this for the first 2-3 hits. After that, it's smoooooooooooooooooooth sailing