Volcano

Carbon - You can clean the hard water stain with vinegar in most cases. Let us know if that works.

Sorry, no volcano material. It looks like a beauty though.

vbeazy said:

Carbon - You can clean the hard water stain with vinegar in most cases. Let us know if that works.

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I tried using distilled white vinegar a couple times, soaking it then brushing with a bong brush but to no avail.

this may sound dumb, but you even tried drying it really well?

SHOP VAC FTW!!!

biojuggernaut wrote:

Is that the illadelph wp adapter? nice thumb

wow, this looks better than the one i made. mine leaks a bit.

i use it with the bubbler of my oil rig.


BTW, I took my illadelph adapter tho the hardware store, got a thin O-ring for the adapter, and it creates a perfect seal between the orange plastic and the glass adapter.

akwardsauce said:

this may sound dumb, but you even tried drying it really well?

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I think the damage has been done as those deposits are quite old, but you're right in that if I'd wipe dried the inside after each session I probably wouldn't have spotty deposits. It's my baby, but it was 90 or 100 so I'm not terribly worried about it. If I ever get that Cloud thing then it's getting special treatment: distilled water only.

Carbon said:

akwardsauce said:

this may sound dumb, but you even tried drying it really well?

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I think the damage has been done as those deposits are quite old, but you're right in that if I'd wipe dried the inside after each session I probably wouldn't have spotty deposits. It's my baby, but it was 90 or 100 so I'm not terribly worried about it. If I ever get that Cloud thing then it's getting special treatment: distilled water only.

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well, i may not know too much about this stuff but i always thought of those type of stains as temporary (not permanent). id say you can still polish it to sparkly by using a glass/window cleaner and scrubbing, then washing out with water & drying...i dont even think you need a special water if you dry it fast enough. ive never seen glass dishes with "permanent" water marks...

make sure you do it to the inside & outside...

i would think you can save this piece!

but i assume you already tried everything - ive just never heard of permanent water marks before!

akwardsauce said:

Carbon said:

akwardsauce said:

this may sound dumb, but you even tried drying it really well?

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I think the damage has been done as those deposits are quite old, but you're right in that if I'd wipe dried the inside after each session I probably wouldn't have spotty deposits. It's my baby, but it was 90 or 100 so I'm not terribly worried about it. If I ever get that Cloud thing then it's getting special treatment: distilled water only.

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well, i may not know too much about this stuff but i always thought of those type of stains as temporary (not permanent). id say you can still polish it to sparkly by using a glass/window cleaner and scrubbing, then washing out with water & drying...i dont even think you need a special water if you dry it fast enough. ive never seen glass dishes with "permanent" water marks...

make sure you do it to the inside & outside...

i would think you can save this piece!

but i assume you already tried everything - ive just never heard of permanent water marks before!

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I'm just weary of using certain things. I'm sure something like CLR would clean it right up, but I'm not sure I'd want to use that in something I breathe out of. I'm going to try a bottle of grunge off one of these days (I've given them out to my brothers as gifts before and seen their magic).

Hey everyone. Volcano owner for 2 1/2 years. I own an Iolite and MFLB. I've been looking into getting a whip style vape and readin the thread on SSV and EQ and I have to say what's with the learning curve to get quality vape? The day I got mine Ive gotten quality vape. Bags of it!!! Even reading the post of those that love their vapes I can't help but think why are these vape such a hassle. 20min warm up 20 min bud warm ups. Or packing it this way over another. With the volcano you grind and vape within 5 min. And you know it. I'm still gonna get the SSV , I want a whip and I hear it's the best. Was gonna get the EQ but it's a hassle to use I can already tell by all the post I read. And the SSV user that brag about cough inducing hits... I don't get it. My weed get me off not the cough , I'm not looking to hack a lung because I want to feel like I got a hit. Kinda a ridiculous arguement to make for one vape being better over another. In the end I know the Volcano is alot of money and worth every penny. If it broke tomorrow I'd have another on order that same day. Soak the use bags in milk and make some hot coco!!! Holy shit. Use the vapo poo and make some oil!!! The volcano give back for sure. Only draw back is buying bags but I found a like on here to remake easy bags thanks for the info

10 pages in and I must comment. I love bags. They don't stink and the smoke isn't stale. I get way more then 4 hits out of bag ,( relax and take a decent hit power lungs). I like that my vape works. No turning it on it side or mods to make it hit better. It works in 5 min out if the box. I think smokers of tabacoo or joints may have a harder time with bags over whips which is why they prefer them. If you never smoked out of a volcano or owned one you shouldn't even comment. I've never tried the EQ but from the reviews it's obvious that special needs need to be considered at every step. The Volcano is expensive. And it's worth it. If you have the cash and you are a beginner get this. If you are a beginner and don't have the money get the EQ. You'll never know what your missing. If you aren't a beginner and have money get more then one cheap fucks lol

Vapor to air ratio sounds like an excuse for I can't afford a Volcano. I've never this term used until I saw a SSV video and Now it seems like everybody just jumps on it.

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Vapor to air ratio sounds like an excuse for I can't afford a Volcano. I've never this term used until I saw a SSV video and Now it seems like everybody just jumps on it.

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well, dont say that people dont get volcanos because they just cant afford it...thats gonna piss people off on here REAL quick (if thats what youre trying to do, then carry on).

i have a volcano and love it. but one of my friends bought a digital volcano before he EVER tried vaporizing and thinks its just a waste...he prefers his water pipe. so what im saying is, for a person who doesnt even know if they like vaporizing yet, $500+ is a very huge sum of money to spend to just take vaping on a test drive.

but everybody knows that just because you think something is the best, that doesnt mean everyone agrees with you.

but i will say that i am glad i got my volcano. i have tried some other vapes lately, and i must say that i think they work pretty well also. i dont really mind whether it comes out of a bag or a hose or a stem or a vial...its all good with me!

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Vapor to air ratio sounds like an excuse for I can't afford a Volcano. I've never this term used until I saw a SSV video and Now it seems like everybody just jumps on it.

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It simply refers to the thickness of the hits. The Volcano fan operates at a single speed, but the slower you can move air over the herbs the thicker your vapor is going to be. You can get thicker hits by hitting slower, which is what happens when you use a whip and draw slowly or use one of the slow fan speeds on the EQ.

While I enjoy both whips and bags, the best part of the Volcano bags (when one has friends over) is that everyone hitting the bag is getting "the first hit", so to speak. When using the whip, the first draw is the best and the next person won't be getting quite as tasty a draw....
Same with the EQ, but it doesn't really blow bags fast enough if you're in a group.....IMHO.

Amazingkaddycap said:

I'm not looking to hack a lung because I want to feel like I got a hit. Kinda a ridiculous arguement to make for one vape being better over another.

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I've been using an SSV for years, among other models. I try not to take hits my lungs can't handle since I hate to cough. I don't use the SSV all the time by any means, but I do enjoy some large, rich hits sometimes. To be fair, coughing is an issue that plagues some more than others. I very rarely have a problem handling hits, but my wife often coughs with just the hits from a log vape-much easier to handle than a full sized whip model. Anyone arguing that cough inducing hits makes for a better vape is wrong. The reason we have (there is no best vaporizer) as a forum subtitle is because it's true. There are so many high quality models of different designs on the market these days, it's impossible to say that one is best. All you can do is decide which is best for your particular needs and wants. And if big, vapor rich hits are what you're looking for, then direct draw models like the SSV excel. The SSV, in particular, provides the small (as in narrow) air stream that results in rich hits. But IMO trying to see how much vapor you can get in your lungs with one hit is just wasteful, not to mention uncomfortable. To me, you have to find the balance that provides big rich hits yet keeps them manageable.

Vapor to air ratio sounds like an excuse for I can't afford a Volcano. I've never this term used until I saw a SSV video and Now it seems like everybody just jumps on it.

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They jump on it because it's real. Bagged vapor is diluted compared to a good whip vape, just as some whip vapes produce richer hits than others. The Extreme is an example of a vape with mediocre whip hits, as far as richness. Considering the size of the bowl and airways, it's perfectly understandable. That's why loading the elbow screen instead of the bowl has become quite popular.

Pushing a steady stream of air through a bowl and into a bag produces diluted vapor, and there's no way around it. Nothing wrong with that if it suits you, but don't be dismissing physics in favor of "an excuse for I can't afford a Volcano". If you're just gonna skim the surface (many do) and be one of those who say stuff like 'the Volcano is the best-can't be touched', you're not gonna find much support for that here. I CAN afford a Volcano, but don't want one. It doesn't produce any better vapor than my herbalAire or Oracle, and with those two, at least I have the option of direct draw. I don't care for the Volcano because it's expensive and only fills bags, but I have no problem saying it's an excellent performer with great resale value.

thecragus said:

When using the whip, the first draw is the best and the next person won't be getting quite as tasty a draw....

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That depends. With the SSV in particular, you can take several hits and with the narrow air stream it supplies, not even taste any ABV (because you're able to avoid it). That's not the case with the DBV, where the air stream is about as wide as the bowl, and hits the whole diameter of the bowl-less rich but more predictable. With bagged vapor, none of it is really fresh. While all the hits from a bag are pretty much equal, they're all kind of stale and definitely diluted compared to fresh whip hits (you can get fresher hits by using smaller bags though). No matter how much vapor is in a bag, or how hard I hit it, I'm never surprised by the hit. OTOH there's a lot to be said for predictable hits and ease of use, and that's where a bag filler shines.

I wasn't trying to upset anyone by claiming they couldn't afford the volcano. There seems to be two camps. It's expensive , which doesn't make it shitty. And I like whip vapes , which is great but still doesn't make the volcano shit. But Vapor to Ratio is trying to pass judgment on the volcano. I've put strains in the volcano and by the 3rd bag it was very light vapor, and some strains that will go bag after bag nice thick vapor. If you smoke garbage expect garbage results. And I know everyone gets the best right? Vapor to ratio being true or not seems like an excuse to bash a product that is IMO the best their is. To get great quality vapor all I have to do is turn it on. Read some of these other threads and you have to learn techniques to get quality vapor. One owner of the EQ turned it on it's side and I don't want to pack the elbow , I want it to work the way it should. I still want a SSV tho seems like a great vape that works. Being a ex smoker I can get into swirling the bowl around or hitting it a certain way.

While we're discussing vapor to air ratio in bag vapes, The Oracle is under 400 and supposedly has very, very dense vapor. The volcano is a tank with high build quality, but I don't think the cost is justified. I think my HA probably got a denser but slightly less flavorful fill than the Volcano could using the same material. HAs can be had for about 190 and can be used for whips, direct draw, or best of all, vaporbonging.

The densest vapor for me for the HA was with ground material pressed to the very bottom of the crucible by a screen - exactly like the volcano does, sandwiching the material at the bottom with the plunger-screen. This setup is something the HA should of aped IMO.

Hi there everyone,

I picked up another Volcano just a couple days ago. Has anyone tried vaporizing through glass? I have found that with the easy valve (may work with solid as well), you can simply press the mouthpiece against any 14mm glass joint and produce a fairly air tight seal.

I have been hitting most of my bags as of recently this way through my small tube, using hot water, and it is simply amazing.


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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DicNHPHuwJI

if anyone's interested here's a vid..

Hi,
I just bought a digital Volcano. In the instructions it says to just vaporize what you will use in 10 minutes because the vapor will condense on the inside of the bag. I have also read that the bag can hold vapor for up to 8 hours! This is a huge difference. Which is it, 10 minutes or 8 hours? I understand that some vapor will condense but am I wasting a lot if I fill a bag for 5 or 6 hours?
Thanks for your help.

Iolite, Launch Box and now, Volcano

JinkyWells said:

Hi,
I just bought a digital Volcano. In the instructions it says to just vaporize what you will use in 10 minutes because the vapor will condense on the inside of the bag. I have also read that the bag can hold vapor for up to 8 hours! This is a huge difference. Which is it, 10 minutes or 8 hours? I understand that some vapor will condense but am I wasting a lot if I fill a bag for 5 or 6 hours?

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Fill bags for immediate consumption. They're telling you the right things, why not trust the manufacturer? Honestly you should never leave vapor in the bag more than 10 minutes maximum. Just vape what you need for the moment; it's a waste to put in any more than that. 8 hours is laughable, it truly will just get stale and most will stick to the inside of the bag.

I must point out to increase the vapor to air ratio turn up the temp. This has the exact same effect as breathing slower through a direct draw system. If you feel like it you can blow bags that are so thick everyone is choking from every hit.

All this mumbo jumbo about the volcano giving thin hits is just crazy.

I agree with Elmo. I start bags at like 365 and go up either 5 or 10 degrees depending on how much herb is in the chamber. At around 380-385, I get crazy thick, almost solid grey bags. Pretty neat.

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JinkyWells said:

Hi,
I just bought a digital Volcano. In the instructions it says to just vaporize what you will use in 10 minutes because the vapor will condense on the inside of the bag. I have also read that the bag can hold vapor for up to 8 hours! This is a huge difference. Which is it, 10 minutes or 8 hours? I understand that some vapor will condense but am I wasting a lot if I fill a bag for 5 or 6 hours?
Thanks for your help.

Iolite, Launch Box and now, Volcano

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If you are refering to weed. You have 5 minutes to deplete that bag, then from thereon after your bag will start losing potency, and 30-60 minutes later your bag will no longer get you high. If you want to test it out, fill a bag and sit it there for half an hour, then repeat it with an hour.

Chances are if you don't get high with the first test, you most likely won't bother with the second.

Thanks, that seems like good advice. I do see many people who say a bag lasts as long as 8 hours! Best that I take it for a test run.
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JinkyWells said:

Hi,
I just bought a digital Volcano. In the instructions it says to just vaporize what you will use in 10 minutes because the vapor will condense on the inside of the bag. I have also read that the bag can hold vapor for up to 8 hours! This is a huge difference. Which is it, 10 minutes or 8 hours? I understand that some vapor will condense but am I wasting a lot if I fill a bag for 5 or 6 hours?
Thanks for your help.

Iolite, Launch Box and now, Volcano

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If you are refering to weed. You have 5 minutes to deplete that bag, then from thereon after your bag will start losing potency, and 30-60 minutes later your bag will no longer get you high. If you want to test it out, fill a bag and sit it there for half an hour, then repeat it with an hour.

Chances are if you don't get high with the first test, you most likely won't bother with the second.

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I do see many people who say a bag lasts as long as 8 hours!

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Wow. I've never heard that. I'm sure you can fill a big bag with a lot of vapor and nurse it for hours, but it's very wasteful. Vapor dissipates and condenses and the longer you wait, the less there is. Vapor's like food-the fresher the better.