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Discontinued Thermovape Cera
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OF
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It probably does in most units, although I wouldn't worry if it doesn't. Inside there are four cores (not 3 as above) around the heater and it's support rod in the center with the slab you see over the top which is intended to cover most (but not all) of the top. When it's not stuck together with concentrates they usually move. 1 of the 3 Oil cores I have does cold. During the assembly the plate is modified (cut back as needed) so it freely enters the cavity it sits in so it doesn't shatter with changes in size due to heat.
An angle probably means it's hitting the top of the coil under it. I wouldn't worry about it, enjoy your Cera.
I've been following the discussion on this vape and I think it has enormous potential but every person I have showed this too has said the same thing to me "dude this is thing looks like a dildo" so while it may be awesome it needs to be visually appealing as well. Just my two cents, I know designers read this thread so, if you want to maximize sales from a marketing majors perspective, change the design up.
You'd be wrong with what you know. One of the two designers is no longer active (Noah) and the other (Nate) specifically does not read this or any other Forum, I asked him just that question last Thursday in fact......how's that for a small world? Seriously, it happened just like that, ended the conversation I had planned that started with 'did you read that guy on the FC Forum that said...?'. Stopped it cold, he told me he didn't, never does. Other staff members do of course (you see them post here) but he does not for reasons I support.
While your advice is no doubt well intended, I think it's off the mark. To know TV is to understand they aren't trying to market to guys who start their feedback with "dude" anything. In fact, they don't market at all. No advertisements? They are driven by what they see is a need for smoking cessation tools, not THC vapes for stoners. This is a useful (obviously) side track for them but there's concern Cera isn't filling that need well (too big and heavy for pocket carry and routine use for instance), Nate is using his 'old school' AVA vape in fact.
Your advice will no doubt be brought up to him, but I'm very confident it's 'function over form' driven. The fact it's the size, shape and color it is is driven by the function and Materials Science involved.....not by marketing concerns. The fact it looks like it belongs in the Doctor's Office more than your pocket is no doubt seen as a very good thing? The 'fact' that to some it looks like a dildo is unfortunate but not likely to prompt any change in design IMO.
OF
I have been using a little plastic grommet that holds glass tops still on table tops (fits perfectly in the middle of the switch) It makes the recessed switched easier to control. You can actually set your Cera on the inside of your pinky finger and hold it by a fist grip. The adhesive usually rubs right off but the grommet will still stay on the switch if you lick it then stick it back on. This is way more comfortable then the pen style grip in my opinion. You can get these for 4 bucks at any office supply store for a dozen.
VapeStL
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I'd bet that anyone who does not think Cera looks like a dildo has never seen a dildo. She ain't the first though. I'm also on an ecig forum & battery operated boyfriends are a fairly common item of discussion since some of the better made ecigs like Provari or GG have the same aesthetic challenge.
That shape has been successful in many instances though like fingers, skyscrapers, carrots, etc.
My plan is to wrap Cera in vinyl or thin neoprene & try to make it look more like a Bud Light bottle. My home has concrete floors & some sort of padded wrap is needed.
That shape has been successful in many instances though like fingers, skyscrapers, carrots, etc.
My plan is to wrap Cera in vinyl or thin neoprene & try to make it look more like a Bud Light bottle. My home has concrete floors & some sort of padded wrap is needed.
Spot on. While Nate does know of the importance and significance of the FC community to our company, he does not actively browse or answer questions that are imposed. Tim and I, however, are always trying to fill in where we can and when we can...
In the name of transparency, I would like to say that we are not into marketing... but we do use brand promotion. Our end goal is not to create just medical-grade smoking cessation tools, but to create both opportunities and utilize harm-reduction. What that means is that we want to prove that we can create a solid, clean manufacturing company right here in America, while creating American jobs. At the same time, it is our founders' beliefs that they could help the world at the same time, one pair of lungs at a time- using the highest medical grade materials known to man, today.
YeeeBuddy
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Great info Haywood, this is my first time dealing with high performance rechargeable batteries so it's good to know I havnt been doing anything I shouldn't. I have 4 batteries in my rotation and never fully Discharge them, I switch them out after 2 ll bowls usually.
iamn3ko
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Here's my new mouth piece. Extended, see through, super open flow, works a lot better than my last version.
"No ossifer, it's a ecig don't you worry"
It adds some length but could definitely pass as an e cig if people are worried about being stealthy... I honestly could care less.
And I'm still using my ceramic screen. I actually like this a lot.
Th..th..th..th.. That's all folks.
"No ossifer, it's a ecig don't you worry"
It adds some length but could definitely pass as an e cig if people are worried about being stealthy... I honestly could care less.
And I'm still using my ceramic screen. I actually like this a lot.
Th..th..th..th.. That's all folks.
coffinoff
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Could you post a link or an image of this? I'm curious but I'm not sure what this grommet thing is, exactly.
I had an old paintball gun with an inline air regulator that came with a rubber sleeve around it. It's a bit stretched out but it fits over the base of the Cera pretty well. I'm also thinking about pulling a taper off an old baseball bat and trying that.
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nopartofme
Over the falls, in a barrel
I think he's talking about something like these: Small Clear Furniture Bumpers
Once you fill up your EO core with your concentrate of choice you will not see the element glow anymore. This is because of the way the concentrate conducts the heat away to be vaporized. That is actually one of the signs i use to know that a EO is filled up enough the first time, easy visual indicator. If its also not producing vapor then it may be something else, give us a call or email and we can help diagnose it more accurately. (888)428-VAPE or sales@thermovape.com
Edit* somehow i thought you said you had the EO.... Oops... it must be a case of the Mondays
But yea shoot us a call or email and we'll get it figured out. The light will turn green when the batteries are fully charged.
Correct! the EL just has a slightly different temperature to help with vaporization of PG/VG based fluids. We are working on a new EL core for the future, something with a little more capacity too!!
Its ok for the Ceramic to move around a little, its part of the design to give it a little "wiggle" to account for the different materials thermal expansion. Even the cores will have a little wiggle to the threaded base, have no worries though as its all part of the design.
Happy Monday everyone! Hope you all had a good Holiday weekend!
Some of our production crew is out till middle of the week so its just 2 of us getting parts assembled, this will slow down our ship-able units till we get the full team back. Otherwise we are still in the full swing of things!
Cheers,
Tim
coffinoff
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Thanks for the visual aid. Seems obvious now but I couldn't seem to grasp what he was talking about before.
Cheerful Dub
Spaced Station
I tried some black non adhesive shrink wrap, 1.5" to 0.75", and it just doesn't end up looking very good. I suppose I should have taken some pictures before I cut it off but I thought the best analogy in my mind was having a low quality case on a nice electronic device like a cell phone. It just makes it look bad and feel bad in your hand, although it would clearly function well during impact, at the end of the day I just don't ever plan on dropping this device. That may sound ignorant but I never outright dropped the T1/Dart assembly (fumbling a core/tip is another story) and I've already logged many comfortable hours of Cera time.
I am interested to see how your wrap attempts work out, let us know.
It seems the best solution for a secondary skin would be similar to my favorite cases for other devices, a rigid two-piece snap-on affair. It could snap around the body length with enough play for rotation to allow lining up the air holes, and then you could make an extended mouthpiece of sorts that covers the current two-piece for a relatively "seamless" look. But this seems an extraneous and overly complex attempt to resolve an issue that I don't really perceive to be a significant issue at the end of the day.
Just when I got comfortable with this new cart and the Johnson Creek smoke juice, well I'll probably buy it anywaysWe are working on a new EL core for the future, something with a little more capacity too!!
For what it's worth my EL core top plate is flat/flush against the interior void, the EO core top plate is angled. Sounds right all around. Good luck!
I would say it resembles a dildo, but i dont think it looks like a dildo. i think most peoples first impression of seeing this would be "oh cool ecig/vape" not "oh why are you carrying a dildo." Anything round and long can be said to resemble a dildo, I doubt thats gonna stop anyone from buying it, or warrant a design change.
iamn3ko
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^^^ I have to strongly disagree. Everyone I've showed it to immediately makes some sort of gesture or joke towards it looking like a dildo, or at least I get a "wtf is that?!"
I was over the fact that it "resembled" a dildo long ago, first timers are a little weirded out but then they use it and suddenly it's their best friend.
I was over the fact that it "resembled" a dildo long ago, first timers are a little weirded out but then they use it and suddenly it's their best friend.
Thats what she said!
YeeeBuddy
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Alrighty after using Cera all day every day for almost 2 weeks I wanted to share some more thoughts. I really LOVE the LL core the more i use it, I feel i have finally mastered this thing. I can now very easily control vapor production by adjusting my draw speed. slow steady inhale for preserving flavor/smaller clouds. Fast agressive inhale is getting me monster rips, serious Noah size hits. I like the core a little dirty like this(see pic) the herb tends to not move around so much( kind of like a dirty bowl piece). Also my LL core even dirty like this barely smells at all, the stinkiest part of this whole thing is the cap/mp, which could probably be lessened with a more aggressive cleaning the most Ive done is run pipe cleaners through the intake holes. I am still impressed at this things efficiency, I can get very nicely medicated off 1 LL bowl, didn't think that was possible when i first saw how big it was, 2 bowls and I'm straight lit. In 2 weeks i have cut my trips to the dispensary in half, literally saving around 100$ a week( i was combusting heavily before making the switch to vaping) So while cera seemed expensive she is gonna pay for herself and then some in the long run. I am still getting the best results with a really fine grind properly dried, i have been filling the bowl all the way and not really packing it at all, just kind of spread it out evenly with my finger. I still believe one of the biggest issues with a new LL core is the load moving as a whole and then the hot air going around it, so i suggest new try not packing too tight and use a slow steady inhale till you get the feel for it, i really havnt been having this problem anymore with a loose pack and "dirty" core. So new users stick it out, even as a complete noobie i had no trouble producing vapor but now with proper technique I can blow clouds. Bummer for those having problems(I'm literally knocking on wood) I at least have peace of mind knowing if my cera does have problems it will be smoothly taken care of.
As for the EO core, their really isn't that much to say. If you like vaping EO you will love this thing, clouds on demand. Never thought I would see the day where I can go out to my car at work and grab a few MONSTER hits in under a minute, and with minimal smell Its perfect. I still like the LL core for medicating at home but for on the go stealth and convenience the EO is the way to go.
To sum it up Cera has really exceeded my expectations, especially with the LL core. I knew the EO was gonna kick ass from all the early videos so thats no suprise, but for me the LL was an afterthought. 13 days no combustion using nothing but Cera, rock on TET, My lungs and wallet thank you
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As for the EO core, their really isn't that much to say. If you like vaping EO you will love this thing, clouds on demand. Never thought I would see the day where I can go out to my car at work and grab a few MONSTER hits in under a minute, and with minimal smell Its perfect. I still like the LL core for medicating at home but for on the go stealth and convenience the EO is the way to go.
To sum it up Cera has really exceeded my expectations, especially with the LL core. I knew the EO was gonna kick ass from all the early videos so thats no suprise, but for me the LL was an afterthought. 13 days no combustion using nothing but Cera, rock on TET, My lungs and wallet thank you
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tavosvo
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CHEEEEHUUUUU! Got my cera EO this morning it's freakin awesome! But in the excitement to try it I forgot to weigh the empty cart!!! Doh! Does anyone happen to know if all the EO carts weigh the same and if so could I get an empty weight? I know someone posted their carts weight but I can't find it. Thanks guys I'm psyching!!
OF
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Alrighty after using Cera all day every day for almost 2 weeks I wanted to share some more thoughts. I really LOVE the LL core the more i use it, I feel i have finally mastered this thing. I can now very easily control vapor production by adjusting my draw speed.
To sum it up Cera has really exceeded my expectations, especially with the LL core. I knew the EO was gonna kick ass from all the early videos so thats no suprise, but for me the LL was an afterthought. 13 days no combustion using nothing but Cera, rock on TET, My lungs and wallet thank you
Outstanding! You broke the code! Stand by for the sign and countersign.......
It's funny, once you get a handle on it it's so easy to control, but until you do it can drive you to drink.....if not back to blazing.....if you let it. I'm stoked you got it, sadly I think some get discouraged when they don't immediately get the results they want/expect (we live in a world of instant gratification for sure).
Thanks for the post, hopefully guys will take it to heart. This is just too cool a thing to keep secret.
Howdy, welcome to the Forum and all the fun. Great pick on Cera, but I guess you've figured that out for yourself......
Sad to say, my modest experience (two SS EO carts) says you're SOL. Mine differ by nearly .4 grams (nearly a full load). A useful average might be something like 42.25 or so? My best advice is to use it and keep track. As long as it hits 'normally' and the surface looks wet and the pores still somewhat covered you're probably just fine. Note the weight when this starts to change and use that value?
Running it too high invites floods but can be dealt with. Running too dry is OK for the cart but can cook the goods and ruin the taste. I like to stay away from that end for that reason.
OF
tavosvo
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Thanks OF! I tried to weigh it freshly loaded with .4g of some blue OG wax I made from my recent harvest, but my scale is apparently broken. How can I tell what is 'too much' by eye? The .4 has mostly gone in the glory hole (lol) but there is also a bunch right outside the portal rim. I've been collecting that after a sesh and carefully loading it on the wafer. I would say .1 outside the puka after trying to fully load and take a couple hits. Ill try to add a photo later if my phone lets me, or am I not allowed to? I don't see any options for that...
amilehigh
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Just got mine unboxed! FINALLY!!!! now how do i use this thing again? Only been reading about it for 4 months now.. hah. I think i remember someone saying we have to charge the batteries first? the suspense continues
Edit: Figured it out! Green light = batteries charged
Just got my first puff on the EO cart with some CO2 oil... it worked.
Do you guys hold the button down every time you puff? For every second you are inhaling? Or do you let it rest sometimes while inhaling? And lastly, in OF's instructions (pasted below so people like myself can find it in more places), he mentions turning it off. That just means not holding the button, right? Am i missing something?
Edit: Figured it out! Green light = batteries charged
Just got my first puff on the EO cart with some CO2 oil... it worked.
Do you guys hold the button down every time you puff? For every second you are inhaling? Or do you let it rest sometimes while inhaling? And lastly, in OF's instructions (pasted below so people like myself can find it in more places), he mentions turning it off. That just means not holding the button, right? Am i missing something?
OF
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You're welcome.
Yes, the goods should fully melt into the ceramic elements. I wouldn't mess with the little bit around the rim as long as it's working it's way down. More will condense anyway, and until there's a properly thick layer it's going stick. DART and Revolution were similar. Your call.
Photos are fine, and very popular. Some of the guys that have trouble with big words (you know who you are.....) really like them. Anyway, you have to load them to someplace like ImageShack and paste the 'Imbed this image' link (use the "Forum" version) in your post. It starts and ends with the square bracket type text you see in the post you're responding to here (if that makes sense....).
Naw, I don't think you're missing anything.....'cept maybe getting to know your new Cera better? Whatcha messing with this here computer for?
Yes, that's what I meant. I advise shutting it down between hits unless you're deep into your Noah imitation. Cera can make a lot of vapor once it gets rolling you should be there to enjoy it rather than have it waft away or stew.
You quickly lean to control the heat in the core so it's just below taking off. The next hit happens real fast once the body is warmed up, the key is keeping the hottest part under 400F or so at idle. Don't be afraid to key power on and off, you'll sort it out I'm sure.
Anyway, best wishes, enjoy your new unit.
OF
OF
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Will this kind offer be available after April first?
If so, I'm your guy...... I'll see it gets a good home.
OF
hektik8625
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April fools!