I'm vaping some 3 Kings via HIon. BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
Wow... I've got a LOT of caps. Different sizes, some one-size-fits-all. Trucker caps, baseball caps, wool caps... If you need caps. I have them.
Almost always find me wearing a ball cap, if I'm not wearing the BDV hat (yes, it exists).
Do you still have your marbles?
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Above you can see some photos i made this afternoon with the HI, and in the last one i put the MFLB for size reference and the WW to compare.
Now, onto the review of the HI.
Construction:
It came flawless, without a single visible defect and it has a great quality feel, both in the materials used and in the craftsmanship itself.
The design already proved useful since i was quickly able to determine the initial malfunction and quickly find a way to bypass it which was as easy to do as it was to come with a solution.
Another thing i noticed is that the center area is all wood and about a third of the overall length of the piece, this allows not only a perfectly position heat sink, as well as a great way to add weight needed to maintain a better stability to prevent from tipping.
Handling:
It is quite similar to the WW as they are both log vapes, but the ss tip allows for a more hands free experience than with the WW with the glass stem since mine does not have a deep enough bowl for it to be secure aqround the center stem.
It gets quite hot to touch, sometimes even unconfortably so, although that is because it accidentaly slided under my leg and the heat accumulates.
With water it is quite easy to use the turbo gong without the sstip and it is easy to handle all pieces - straight tube, downstem, gong stem and HI.
Taste:
Similar to the WW, can't really tell the difference in a blind test TBH, so pretty good. The only one that can best it in my collection is the Gn0me.
It is way easier to prematurelly brown/black your bowl though. I am used to employ a slower draw in my WW and my Solo, and i begun doing it in the DBV as well.. but in the HI, if you do that without stopping for more than 10 seconds or drawing fresh air, it is almost guaranteed to realize your bowl has the top surface dark brown.
The turbo gong improves taste compared to the ss tip, something to be expected of course.
Efficiency:
As most convection units out there nowadays, it is a very efficient unit. The emotional aspect of efficiency, related to bowl size, makes the ss tip + turbo gong my best stem so far, and the turbo gong alone my worst. So, i have the best of both worlds with logs, the ability for modestly big bowls (let's not compare this with an ELB or a DBV/SSV bowl) and for very small bowls as well.
Overall Experience:
As i mentioned in the two posts before, i love it. It was definitly worth waiting for.
In terms of vapor output, it is an awesome unit.
The high temperature it reaches allows for very quick sessions and one-hit-stems easy.
The WW is better to have a prolonged session especially now because i still have to learn the subtleties between both units in terms of draw technique.
With water, this is perhaps my best unit. DBV milks it better but has a higher learning curve to do that. WW does not reach as high of a temp as the HI, and the Solo has a close taste but worst handling. The gn0mes are good but not as pratical also.
I'm currently on my HI-neymoon so my usage will eventually find the best place for my HI but i foresee it becoming my main water vaporizer and the WW my main dry vaporizer, with the Solo continuing to fill the mobile needs that don't require stealth (friends and GF houses, vacations and change of the usual home vaporization venues.)
And once again, thank you Alan for your commitment to inovate and provide a new view on the log scene. It has been a pleasure!
Jeppy
Pure Vaporist
Damn,,,,you got caps up the ass!
vorrange
Vapor.wise
GOATPUSSY
Active Member
Oh. Ok. Got me REAL excited for a few minutes!!
Its an awesome piece vorrange. Enjoy it and treat it well.
Its an awesome piece vorrange. Enjoy it and treat it well.
Not exactly, my HI was ready for a while now. Just waiting for me.
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
WW and HI. Lucky...
Personally, I think a VVPS is a game changer. I've reverted back and forth on that a couple times, But once you get that perfect all-around voltage (plus, your draw to, of course), you get the level of browning you consistently want.
Though, it is odd how different vapes brown the herb.
I did a good long session with my VBHF today and the roast came out the same dark color I get out of my HI, but was definitely different. Hard to say more consistent browning, at that point... brown is brown... but you can see subtle differences.
Beautiful piece of wood... and great comparison review.
Personally, I think a VVPS is a game changer. I've reverted back and forth on that a couple times, But once you get that perfect all-around voltage (plus, your draw to, of course), you get the level of browning you consistently want.
Though, it is odd how different vapes brown the herb.
I did a good long session with my VBHF today and the roast came out the same dark color I get out of my HI, but was definitely different. Hard to say more consistent browning, at that point... brown is brown... but you can see subtle differences.
Beautiful piece of wood... and great comparison review.
The oil does seem to evaporate a little slower with the cotton when setting on the HI since it is not in direct contact with the copper so the temperature is lower. However, the oil evaporates faster at room temperature with the cotton since it has a higher surface area. I just set the cap next to the hot air outlet of my laptop when it is not on the HI.
vorrange - Thanks for the review and photos. I like the color of osage orange wood. It should get much darker with age and heat. I have a hundred year old osage orange fence post that is almost totally brown.
The SS tips do give you the ability to roast some very small amounts with very good effect which is really nice if you need or want to conserve. I have been loading just a single tiny flower bud in the SS tip which allows the air to flow around and to the outside of the roasting tube.
The larger roasting tubes do use up your material faster, but it is so nice to have that extra airflow. Better airflow seems to give better flavor.
Very creative with the cord and hair tie. I tried to do something similar to that, but the plastic in the plug end got soft and allowed the center conductor to drift over and short out against the side. The adapter plug doesn't have the side forces like the cord does. I just need to design a new plug system so I don't need the adapter. Are you able to check the conductivity of the adapter plug?
Happy roasting and discovering new ways to use your HI.
Jeppy - Better to loose your caps than your mind. They will show up when you don't need them.
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
vorrange
Vapor.wise
Don't you find the subtle differences are also due to your own technique? I have been using Hazy's mini VVPS but it stopped heating two days ago.. i still shows voltage but nothing happens. It was a great addition though, and i plan on getting a new one. It gives you more versatibility, i still don't have a perfect all around voltage.
Great idea on the copper bowl next to the laptop air outlet, i still haven't used my bowl yet and i used to have loads of essential oils specifically for that. Gonna have to try it some time.
About the cord, i had to do the hair tie mod because the conector was a bit loose. But, when i used to conector in my vvps cable it stayed put without the need for a hair tie.
What do you mean by checking the conductivity, can i do that with a multimeter? I checked the adapter plug with my regular PS and the Wychwood and the HI, and it didn't work on either.
I'm toastily roasting happily.
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
Certainly. Lots of different variables. I get a much more even roast with the turbo tube/silicone sleeve, than anything. Different pulls, for different pieces. You're on the right track, though I'm sure as a WW owner, it probably helps the learning curve.
Happy to see another HI owner around. Can't wait until Alan gets rolling again. This thread is going to blow up!
BlazednConfused
Fill this whole street with uppercut
How long is the wait list on one of these?
Vapinghole
Low-Temp Hempist / JedHI Master
It depends on where the Master JedHI is with his move. It could be a few months. If you're keen to get one, hop on the list. Don't cost nothin'. Plus, you get to hang out in the coolest FC thread of all time and learn the ways of the JedHI. Join us. We're cheap and easy!
GOATPUSSY
Active Member
BlazednConfused
Fill this whole street with uppercut
I'd love to.. but I can get a blemished UD and have it before the end of the week, whereas with every other log I'm on a 3 week- 2 month+ waiting list. I'm about to have access to guaranteed quality meds and I don't want to smoke the cano I've been itching for a new toy for a while.
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
Get both.
BlazednConfused
Fill this whole street with uppercut
I'm only going to be able to justify buying one log vape, my girlfriend only half supports me in my paraphenalia obsession. I can get away with shit cause she loves me but have several very similar vapes all in the $150-200 isn't possible lol
BigDaddyVapor
@BigDogJunction
New HI video, with new glass! (oh and a dab. 
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(Blow it up big, HD)
)(Blow it up big, HD)
GOATPUSSY
Active Member
Get a UD and put yourself on the HI list and you'll be very happy. It's gonna take quite some time before you're number comes up and I'm sure if you save $1 each day, you'll have plenty when your number is called.
You could always skip it if you're not feeling it down the line... But you probably wish you would've signed up if you don't.
VAS and GAS and even GrAS are some serious conditions 'round these parts....
You could always skip it if you're not feeling it down the line... But you probably wish you would've signed up if you don't.
VAS and GAS and even GrAS are some serious conditions 'round these parts....
vorrange - Sounds like I need to send you a new adapter. Hopefully it won't get trapped in customs hold. I will send you a pm.
BlazednConfused - Sorry that I don't have any units available for you at this time. Life is a bit crazy for me at this time. Hoping that will change soon. You can throw your name on the list and then see how your finances are when I get to you. Shoot me an email to get on the list. alan@toasty-top.com
BDV - Another great video. Thanks so much. Dabbing looks fun.
I have been wanting to make some more WonG's for a while now and finally got the chance. They are rather unique in they are all wood. I figured if you were going to draw vapor through a wooden tube anyhow, why not just make it all wood. There is a 5/16" (~8mm) down the center and a 10mm bowl bored 5/8" deep. The screen sets at the bottom of the 10mm hole. There is a 1m ledge for the screen.
For comparison, my all glass 14mm tubes have a 9.6mm hole down the center and a 0.2mm ledge for the screen.
The 18mm tubes left to right are: Ipe Burl w/ ss roasting tip, Osage Orange, Maple Burl, Red Heart, Bocote, Cocobolo, and Ipe Burl.
The 14mm tubes left to right are: Sumac, Apple, Red Heart, Lignum Vitae, Blood Wood, and Zebra Wood.
The HI is Red Cedar.
Wooden roasting tubes aren't new. They have been around for a while. Here is a link to some photos of the "Pneuma" and wooden tubes that were made by Robert Burruss "the Godfather of Vaporization".
Pneuma
BlazednConfused - Sorry that I don't have any units available for you at this time. Life is a bit crazy for me at this time. Hoping that will change soon. You can throw your name on the list and then see how your finances are when I get to you. Shoot me an email to get on the list. alan@toasty-top.com
BDV - Another great video. Thanks so much. Dabbing looks fun.
I have been wanting to make some more WonG's for a while now and finally got the chance. They are rather unique in they are all wood. I figured if you were going to draw vapor through a wooden tube anyhow, why not just make it all wood. There is a 5/16" (~8mm) down the center and a 10mm bowl bored 5/8" deep. The screen sets at the bottom of the 10mm hole. There is a 1m ledge for the screen.
For comparison, my all glass 14mm tubes have a 9.6mm hole down the center and a 0.2mm ledge for the screen.
The 18mm tubes left to right are: Ipe Burl w/ ss roasting tip, Osage Orange, Maple Burl, Red Heart, Bocote, Cocobolo, and Ipe Burl.
The 14mm tubes left to right are: Sumac, Apple, Red Heart, Lignum Vitae, Blood Wood, and Zebra Wood.
The HI is Red Cedar.
Wooden roasting tubes aren't new. They have been around for a while. Here is a link to some photos of the "Pneuma" and wooden tubes that were made by Robert Burruss "the Godfather of Vaporization".
Pneuma
toros23
Well-Known Member
Wow Alan! When you described them in email it was hard to picture but now I get it! When I get a HI will definitely
Damn you BDV for getting Dr. Feelgood stuck in my head today!!! lol
jambandphan03
in flavor country
Very nice