The Magic-Flight Box

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Hey I'm new to the forum . a lot of great info. I have a mflb. I'm on my 3rd box. They all seem to be different. This one heats the herb so quickly making it easy to combust. I love this product though. It's my daily driver. And I take a stroll with the wpa at night..
 
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hmmm my stem has a good little puddle along the bottom of it now. I remember someone being able to finagle it out with the PA and a little ingenuity, but my rudimentary search of the thread came up fruitless
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Two ways to approach it. What I do usually is take a small piece of nug, roll it up small enough to fit into the tube, but big enough to be able to apply pressure inside. Big enough that you'll need to poke it through the stem with a paperclip or small poke device. I add this to a layer of bud in the trench, making sure that the oiled up bit doesn't touch the screen. I don't think it will clog the screen seeing as how it's pure vapor condensation, but I'd rather not risk it.

The other way is to use a cotton to do the same thing. Vito was even able to sandwich a bit of oil between a small piece of cotton ball and vape just that in the box (the cotton won't vaporize, although it might turn a light tan color.) Oil's never treated me wrong ;)
 
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Nbajunkie said:
Hey I'm new to the forum . a lot of great info. I have a mflb. I'm on my 3rd box. They all seem to be different. This one heats the herb so quickly making it easy to combust. I love this product though. It's my daily driver. And I take a stroll with the wpa at night..
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Howdy. Welcome to the fun.

Glad to hear you're already a happy owner. I too have several (covering 3 models) and while I find some difference none of them will combust without the PA, at least I don't think they would. Surely none would do so easily. I also think they tended to 'cool off' a bit over the first dozen uses or so. Have you noticed that? Could be my imagination of course, I have no measurements to back that feeling up with.

Perhaps it's the way I use them, but they seem easier to use after this break in. More relaxed. Of course that could also be the other way around.

Anyway, thanks for the observations. Interesting.

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Howdy. Welcome to the fun.

Glad to hear you're already a happy owner. I too have several (covering 3 models) and while I find some difference none of them will combust without the PA, at least I don't think they would. Surely none would do so easily. I also think they tended to 'cool off' a bit over the first dozen uses or so. Have you noticed that? Could be my imagination of course, I have no measurements to back that feeling up with.

Pewrhaps it's the way I use them, but they seem easier to use after this break in. More relaxed. Of course that could also be the other way around.

Anyway, thanks for the observations. Interesting.

OF
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I can see why you would say the boxes need to be broken in. And it didn't help that i was using the wpa with little experience.mines a little less touchy but i guess that could be attributed to a more refined hitting teqnique. Thanks
 
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Nbajunkie said:
Hey I'm new to the forum . a lot of great info. I have a mflb. I'm on my 3rd box. They all seem to be different. This one heats the herb so quickly making it easy to combust. I love this product though. It's my daily driver. And I take a stroll with the wpa at night..
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I don't know about you multiple-box-owners, but I like the slight variation. It's like every box is just a tiny bit different, uniform in shape but with its own personality (heat-up time, look.) Some might say it's bad QC, but I think it's kinda neat.

I have noticed that mine runs a little bit colder now, or maybe it's just my imagination/batteries/technique. There's nothing wrong with it, with a fresh trench and new battery I'm getting vapor in ~2 seconds, but I feel like it used to be able to "peak" maybe half a second to a second faster. I'm probably just too baked to time it properly once I've used it for a bit :doh:
 
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Well it turns out I've got no classes tomorrow, so you can bet I'll be spending the day with my Launch Box watching the rain. Hope everybody on the East coast stays safe and takes care, and hopefully we will just watch this pass quickly. Best wishes everyone.
 
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You mean besides using it to waterproof your boots? Yeah, some narrow minded self indulgent types 'put it in their pipe and smoke it'. Or in this case, vape it. Stuff's very rich in THC you know......

Consider before it condensed it was vapor on it's way out the hole and into some lucky owner's mouth.

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Did I just get called " narrow minded self indulgent " ...?
If I wasn't so vaked from re-vaping the reclaim goo/resin from my mflb ...
I would have a good comeback ....

Why are you discouraging that practice OF ?
Health reasons ?
 
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poonman said:
Why are you discouraging that practice OF ?
Health reasons ?
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Not a bit of it, just having a little fun. By all means vape it, "Consider before it condensed it was vapor on it's way out the hole and into some lucky owner's mouth.". Like freezing a glass of water, then thawing it out and drinking it......

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i'm over on the East coast as well. hope everyone else is prepping for the storm that's going to hit. i know i am...by charging up every single rechargable battery i have for my MFLB in case i lose power :brow:
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I've got a hand crank radio in the "Earthquake Kit" (we don't get storms like that here.....), maybe we need a hand crank vape? Vapman used to sell one, a friction deal with a cord you attached to the door and yanked on as I recall, never caught on.

Otherwise, I think you've just made a very compelling case for an Iolite or VG and can of gas?

Good luck with the hunker down, hope your stash holds out.....

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Well guys, I lost power today. Luckily I'd charged all 4 of my batteries. I guess that's one benefit the MFLB has over a desktop unit right there. How's everybody holding out on the East coast?
 
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OF said:
You mean besides using it to waterproof your boots? Yeah, some narrow minded self indulgent types 'put it in their pipe and smoke it'. Or in this case, vape it. Stuff's very rich in THC you know......

Consider before it condensed it was vapor on it's way out the hole and into some lucky owner's mouth.

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Judging from your post, I'm assuming you've had the same conversation I've had?

"No, this ISN'T like the tar goo, you scraped out of your combustion bong!"

Yeah, same collection method... totally different properties. I have a very difficult time, getting combustion guys, to try wand hash. Funny thing is, I could do different reclaims, basically have the same stuff and they'd probably be all over it.
 
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a friend who owns the mflb said you can use use hash oil (bho, budder, etc, didnt mention reg hash but idk) in the mflb. He says you just cut a rectangle out of rolling paper and put a bit on there and fold over the paper onto it, then throw it in the box. Anyone tried this? im very interested as this would be a neat dual use for the mflb but dont have hash on hand, and though the company doesnt reccomend concentrates for the reason you may clog your screen, but this is safe from clogging.
 
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adhezivek said:
Anyone tried this? im very interested as this would be a neat dual use for the mflb but dont have hash on hand, and though the company doesnt reccomend concentrates for the reason you may clog your screen, but this is safe from clogging.
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Yes, it's been tried. A couple of times at least. IIRC it did not work well which is why it didn't 'catch on'. If/when it leaks out and contacts the screen it gets permanently burned in place making that section useless in the future. Lots of guys have such spots on theirs, but a regular habit of it will most likely kill the box over time.

Vitolo has a much improved scheme using cotton (I suspect a search of this forum for posts with 'cotton' from him would find the technique), but it's not completely without risks either. I suspect it works better since the vapor it's trapped? This is a conduction vape, IMO if you want to occasionally do a bit of oil, go with a convection unit.

FWIW you might want to change font colors as well, not easy to read.....

Anyway, welcome to the Forum, best of luck.

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OF said:
Yes, it's been tried. A couple of times at least. IIRC it did not work well which is why it didn't 'catch on'. If/when it leaks out and contacts the screen it gets permanently burned in place making that section useless in the future. Lots of guys have such spots on theirs, but a regular habit of it will most likely kill the box over time.

Vitolo has a much improved scheme using cotton (I suspect a search of this forum for posts with 'cotton' from him would find the technique), but it's not completely without risks either. I suspect it works better since the vapor it's trapped? This is a conduction vape, IMO if you want to occasionally do a bit of oil, go with a convection unit.

FWIW you might want to change font colors as well, not easy to read.....

Anyway, welcome to the Forum, best of luck.

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i have read about cotton as well, it is a bit unsettling that when i put plain cotton in there the window fogs and seemingly something is produced. any thoughts on that?
 
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i have read about cotton as well, it is a bit unsettling that when i put plain cotton in there the window fogs and seemingly something is produced. any thoughts on that?
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My bet is it's moisture. Cotton absorbs it, which is why it makes such comfortable clothes as I understand it.

I bet if you bake a bit of cotton in your oven at say 250 degrees for 15 minutes or so that doesn't happen?

I ran some tests on bud vaping a while ago, I convinced myself about half the 'vapor' that came off was water typically. Luck for us, the rest is mostly THC...which is of course why the whole thing got started in the first place.

BTW, nice choice on font colors.......

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i will try the cotton then when i get my hands on hash oil. How does your hitting technique need to change? and how much will this smell vs normal? Im thinking of switching to mainly bho if i could get higher, quicker, and with less smell.
 
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adhezivek said:
i will try the cotton then when i get my hands on hash oil. How does your hitting technique need to change? and how much will this smell vs normal? Im thinking of switching to mainly bho if i could get higher, quicker, and with less smell.
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There's better choices for using concentrates to get what you want compared to the LB... try ThermoVape's stuff (the "Revolution" comes to mind) as well as the Omicron and Persei.
 
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and how much will this smell vs normal? Im thinking of switching to mainly bho if i could get higher, quicker, and with less smell.
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I haven't done it therefore have no advice on technique changes, did you look up Vitolo's instructions?

High quality concentrates will be quicker to use most likely (same as whiskey is faster than beer) but THC is THC you don't get any higher. If 'getting higher faster' vaping might not be a good call for you anyway? How much vaping have you done? How long have you done it without blazing?

Once you breathe in the vapor it really doesn't matter if it came directly from herb or was concentrated (either mechanically or chemically) before.

The smell issue should be roughly the same unless you're using some really dank bud (which will calm down when cured usually).

BTW, I'd pay attention to 'the Q man' directly above, he knows of what he speaks. MFLB would be a long way down my list, and I own a couple of 'em. There are far better vapes for concentrates.

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OF said:
I haven't done it therefore have no advice on technique changes, did you look up Vitolo's instructions?

High quality concentrates will be quicker to use most likely (same as whiskey is faster than beer) but THC is THC you don't get any higher. If 'getting higher faster' vaping might not be a good call for you anyway? How much vaping have you done? How long have you done it without blazing?

Once you breathe in the vapor it really doesn't matter if it came directly from herb or was concentrated (either mechanically or chemically) before.

The smell issue should be roughly the same unless you're using some really dank bud (which will calm down when cured usually).

BTW, I'd pay attention to 'the Q man' directly above, he knows of what he speaks. MFLB would be a long way down my list, and I own a couple of 'em. There are far better vapes for concentrates.

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i saw a video where vitolo put a dab inside cotton and stuck it in his box. personally id rather not drop 100+ just to vape concentrates, if there was a solid dual performer for less than 200+ id probably get it. Ive been smoking for 3 years, vaping with the mflb since june, 1 trench gets me to a 7 on avg, 8.5 on a great day. takes about 30 min to complete the trench so i believe its the fact that the thc is coming in slower vs if i hit it all to the brain in one bong rip. Thats why i was thinking bho could be my savior as it would take much less time to vape off the same amount of thc, hopefully smelling less
 
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adhezivek said:
i saw a video where vitolo put a dab inside cotton and stuck it in his box. personally id rather not drop 100+ just to vape concentrates, if there was a solid dual performer for less than 200+ id probably get it. Ive been smoking for 3 years, vaping with the mflb since june, 1 trench gets me to a 7 on avg, 8.5 on a great day. takes about 30 min to complete the trench so i believe its the fact that the thc is coming in slower vs if i hit it all to the brain in one bong rip. Thats why i was thinking bho could be my savior as it would take much less time to vape off the same amount of thc, hopefully smelling less
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Cool. You know as much about the technique as me then, actually more.

My advice for a $200 dual purpose vape is the HA, a nice corded unit that blows bags and does WPs without a hitch in addition to being a direct draw or whip vape at your whim. Excellent temperature control. In portables I'd suggest TV Evolution. Both Evolution will do concentrates well (I put a small pad of the concentrate pad sold for Volcano use in the bottom to ensure nothing gets in to the heaters) as they are convection vapes (not conduction like MFLB).

I think you're going the wrong way WRT massive shots. To get the same effect you need to take a lot more since you blow a lot out again. Yes, hitting a nail is fast and scary in it's ability to get you off. But guys vape .1 or .2 grams a hit to do it. That's going to smell a whole lot more than vaping a fraction of that over more hits to get the same THC level in the end. Faster, yes, but less efficient which means more cost and more waste (the part folks can smell).

Guys like Pak that take several thin (low temperature) hits from the box and wait a bit for effect are going to be the champs at stretching the stash and smelling less in the process I bet.

Good luck.

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Hey all! After reading extensively about the MFLB, most of which was information that came from this site and specifically this thread, I decided to go with it. I used it for my first time ever getting medicated and boy oh boy did I get high. It's been about a month and I've used the MFLB exclusively, so no combustion for me thus far :) I wanted to stop in and say thanks and just give a little praise to the MFLB. It's awesome because of how small and easy to use it is and how effective it is in doing its job. The batteries are really nice because I have 4 batteries (split a pack of Powerex 2700 mAH with my friend [who loved it so much that he bought one the same night we first used mine], so 2 for each of us) that I keep in my MFLB case and I know I always have some charged. The charged ones face the right, the used ones face the left. I use an Otterbox 2000 Dry Box for my MFLB, stem, one pill container each for herb and ABV, 4 batteries, the cleaning brush, and eye drops. It's terrific because it's small enough to fit into any bag without notice, is secure, safe and organized (I made a custom foam cutout for it so that everything has it's place and is securely held in place with cushioning) and best of all, completely air and water tight so no smell. It's a little bulky though so you can't just slip it in your pocked and go, so I'm looking to get a point and shoot camera case for that purpose. Anyway, this thing gets me medicated with very little herb and is nearly smell-less, so much so that I can use it inside without any other members of my household knowing. I can take it pretty much anywhere and I love the clean feeling it gives me. Thanks so much to everyone here for the help and great ideas. Much love people. A tutorial will be coming soon for a custom made MFLB case.

Best wishes everyone. Cheers!

TL;DR: Love MFLB. Gets me very high. No smell. Very portable. Made custom case. Thanks for help everybody. Bye. :)
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would love to see pics of the foam insert for otterbox 2000. I just got my otterbox today and I want to make the insert for my mflb
 
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adhezivek said:
i saw a video where vitolo put a dab inside cotton and stuck it in his box. personally id rather not drop 100+ just to vape concentrates, if there was a solid dual performer for less than 200+ id probably get it. Ive been smoking for 3 years, vaping with the mflb since june, 1 trench gets me to a 7 on avg, 8.5 on a great day. takes about 30 min to complete the trench so i believe its the fact that the thc is coming in slower vs if i hit it all to the brain in one bong rip. Thats why i was thinking bho could be my savior as it would take much less time to vape off the same amount of thc, hopefully smelling less
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If you want a solid dual purpose portable, the Arizer Solo comes to mind as another awesome piece. Since it uses a stem you don't have to worry so much about the entire unit breaking, plus you can sandwich your stuff in a bud-concentrate-bud fashion. I don't own one myself, but a friend that I Skype with occasionally as well as others own the Solo and won't stop raving about it... months later...

You'll be able to snag one from one of the FC-friendly retailers right here with a discount code. I saved $14 on a recent order thanks to a fuckcombustion-exclusive 10% off code :tup:
 
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