AtmosRaw

jstkickinit - I totally feel you... been burning for 7 years now. I'm a devout bong ripper. Man, so I've been using mine, all my friends look at me like I'm crazy.. struggling to make it work after each hit. I spend most of my time trying to find that sweet spot.. the point of vaporization. Yeah it's definitely a steep learning curve. I got my screens, but I lost the honeycomb one in less than an hour.. -__- Those things take so long to heat up!! But when it vapes, it vapes well. I'll get a lucky vape hit once in a while. At one point, I was so fed up, I just threw out the screen and let it combust.

Anyone here have a specific procedure they wanna share w/ me? Trying to vape flowers here.
Press button for 9 seconds twice to heat and then..? Do you release the button and inhale? Or keep holding it down and inhale?

jstkickinit said:

OF
I'll look into the Omicron O-PHOS, The original omicron got me all excited when it first came out but then I read a few reviews and I felt discouraged on the info. I'm one of those people that would like to get the best of something in it's class if possible. Every vape seller/creator/designer has so many different models it's confusing.

FC!! I'm glad I found this place (great name too). Seems like there are alot of people that know alot of Vape-Science. I hope I can grasp some of that knowledge to put towards my usage.

JstKickinit

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Really don't mean to hijack but wanted to encourage your looking into the O-Phos. I've used all of G's devices and even though I love the coolness of the Mini and the power of the Persei and V2 HVD, I find the O-Phos is the smoothest to draw off of, and have to second OF's sentiment, I only just this evening told G I thought it was the most like an e-cig, in terms of draw,(especially with the new carts) and my current go to of his devices.

And I'm with you, so glad to find this forum, full of smart, friendly people, eager to save us time, money and frustration by educating and initial buying and testing.
Being the hardware isn't cheap in a somewhat fringe industry, it's really valuable to have FC and Vaporpedia.

Good luck in your quest! I look forward to your results.

After reading that the AtmosRaw combusts and doesn't vaporise, I ditched this item from my portables shortlist (that includes DaVinci, Inhalater [note spelling], Ploom Pax, Puffit, and Vaporfection miVape (as distinct from the non-portable viVape).

All those who believe in psycho-kinesis, please raise my hand.

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Adobewan said:

Really don't mean to hijack but wanted to encourage your looking into the O-Phos.

Good luck in your quest! I look forward to your results.

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Another option comes to mind. It looks like the 'battery' (really a power supply....) is pretty typical, perhaps the same as other Atmos products? Does anyone know what threads those are? If they're the same as the Atmos RX Omicron carts will screw directly in. If not, and they are 510 or something else we can get adapters for, perhaps part of this can be 'recycled' this way?

This seems like an option for the folks with Gentleman's pens.......

OF

What is strange about the AR threading, the battery uses the 601 like the Omi, but it's the outer threading that lines up on the heat chamber (where the cone would go on the Omi). The inside threaded part is much smaller than both the 601 and 510, so far I could not find anything that matches it. I don't think it even threads into the battery, it just sinks down low enough to make contact. None of my adapters will even connect to it, it's so small. If this makes sense.

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What is strange about the AR threading, the battery uses the 601 like the Omi, but it's the outer threading that lines up on the heat chamber (where the cone would go on the Omi). The inside threaded part is much smaller than both the 601 and 510, so far I could not find anything that matches it. I don't think it even threads into the battery, it just sinks down low enough to make contact. None of my adapters will even connect to it, it's so small. If this makes sense.

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Thanks, Jam, I was afraid of something like that. Too bad, it'd be nice if folks had other options....but I guess that preventing just that might have been part of the design?

Thanks for the word anyway.

OF

Haven't really kept up with this model for a while, but I take that the Fresh Green model is more the same, despite the extra heating chamber, their site is mentioning? I also take that the newer model Amazon's site mentions is more the same as the first release, or am I wrong there(seeing as there is a 100 difference between the amazon price and Atmos site)? Thanks.

If I were you, I'd look for a vaporizer that actually vapes. This one has been proven to burn.

I know it burns, but I thought maybe somehow this green model fixed that issue. I guess not.

Yeah, isn't there someway to get the Atmos to not combust? The glass screen and a glass chamber or something?

Or any other trippy stick kinda like, G-Pen?

personalities said:

Yeah, isn't there someway to get the Atmos to not combust? The glass screen and a glass chamber or something?

Or any other trippy stick kinda like, G-Pen?

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Nobody seems to have found one that never combusts but always vapes. Or even usually it seems? Lots of different schemes have been proposed, some by the same owner trying one 'solution' after another it seems. Lots of guys have given it 'the old college try' and then some, nobody has found the answer. It's just not designed for this use initially I guess.

Also, it's my understanding that you can't thread 510 accessories on it so you can't even use the battery with Omicron carts or Revolution/DART like you can with some of these guys.

The good news is there are herb vapes available from TV with solid histories, excellent support and strong followings of happy owners. Once the final 'bugs' are chased out, I suspect the THC Universe will join that group and we'll have other options in the 'pen vape' market.

Both those makers currently offer excellent (but differently styled) concentrate carts to fit their own (or each other's with adapters) batteries. You might want to check into those makers? There are very active (and long) threads on them here.

Unfortunately, it seems, there's just not that much you can do with this unit short of calling it a loss and learning experience?

OF

Recently just purchased the Atmos Raw from my local headshop. Was planning on getting the flight box, but the owner of the store recommended the Atmos so much i went ahead and got it instead. I have read that it combusts a little, but I really don't mind smoke that much. However, this is my first vape of any kind and want it to work well. I opened it up, charged it till it was green, put the parts together and placed the herb in. I started with heating it up by holding the button down until the light went off, then I began sucking slowly at it with about 3-5 second intervals of turning light on/off. I didn't really notice any form of vape/smoke coming out, which i assumed i just had to get a bit more times in to work the kinks outs. Even after multiple draws, I never received and noticable vape/smoke, just a bit of a tingly feeling in my mouth. I had used a vape multiple times before, but never a portable one, and assume that this must just be how they work. However, After many draws, I opened it up and saw the herb basically as green as when I put it in. No brown, hazel, or black colored, basically if not the exact same color as the unused herb. I packed it again with a different batch of the same herb, with same results. It seemed nothing was getting heated up! Also, my battery ran out quickly, which i assumed was just because I had been messing with the light so much. I plugged it in, and it turned green in about 15 minutes. After it turned green, re-did everything and packed it with a new supply from the same batch. Not more than 10 minutes in and the light began to blink and then turned off. WTF? The battery should last much longer than that....So i kinda gave up at that point and plugged it in for the night and fell asleep. Just got up a bit ago, the thing was green (I don't remember it turning green before I fell asleep) so I put the pen together again in hopes it would work. Nothing. I am so confused. Everyone seems to be complaining that it combusts, when mine wont heat at all! what am i doing wrong?


Extra info:
1. when i opened it, the spring was already out, leading me to believe the owner had removed it to show it to customers, but there was no herb/smell of herb in pen, so i don't think it had been used
2. when i first charged it before I used it, it turned green very quickly, so maybe the light is messed up or something, unless its supposed to basically be already charged when i take it out of the box
3. no clue what strain the herb is, got it free from a trusted friend. feels a bit sticky, smells dank, maybe not dry enough?
4. after 2 or 3 draws, the pen is extremely hot and is hard to handle unless hand is placed on the rubber power strip. This seems to be how everyone else's pens feel, but my herb just is getting the heat!
5. I don't think I'm over packing it, but I suppose that's possible, no one has really shown any videos tat lead me to believe im packing it any more than they are

sounds like a bad battery, or possibly a bad heating chamber, I would contact where you bought it from, and let them know it is not working right, if possible, get a refund and find a better device all together. Sorry to see people are still going after this product with poor results.

Crushedlight said:

Recently just purchased the Atmos Raw from my local headshop. Was planning on getting the flight box, but the owner of the store recommended the Atmos so much i went ahead and got it instead. I have read that it combusts a little, but I really don't mind smoke that much.

However, After many draws, I opened it up and saw the herb basically as green as when I put it in. No brown, hazel, or black colored, basically if not the exact same color as the unused herb.

Not more than 10 minutes in and the light began to blink and then turned off. WTF? The battery should last much longer than that....

Everyone seems to be complaining that it combusts, when mine wont heat at all! what am i doing wrong?


2. when i first charged it before I used it, it turned green very quickly, so maybe the light is messed up or something, unless its supposed to basically be already charged when i take it out of the box
3. no clue what strain the herb is, got it free from a trusted friend. feels a bit sticky, smells dank, maybe not dry enough?
4. after 2 or 3 draws, the pen is extremely hot and is hard to handle unless hand is placed on the rubber power strip. This seems to be how everyone else's pens feel, but my herb just is getting the heat!

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Sorry you're having troubles, but if you've read this thread much you'll know you're not alone. Everyone seem to, most throw in the towel and move on....

I have to make an estimate of the current draw (something around four amps, maybe 15 Watts?) but ten minutes of battery life seems just about right, what makes you sure it should last longer? It's not a big battery and it need LOTS of heat to do it's job.....when it can be coaxed into it.

First thing, I think, is to dry your herb well. You don't have heat to waste drying it out in the pen. Then work on technique, you have to control the heat. You need the herb 'as close to the fire' as you can get it. This is where guys experiment, get to close or too hot and it combusts and runs away (cherries out), too far away or too cool and it never vapes, just drains the battery and heats your hand (as you've already done). It's a very fine line to ride it sees, which is why most guys finally abandon them I guess.

The bottom line is this is an e-cig modified to try to vape herb.....which is a tough nut to crack with purpose built gear if you've been following the Universe or TV sagas. The TV units have been doing the deed for us for some time (and quite well IMO), and the Universe offers to do the same, but they were purpose built, part by part, expressly for this job. As a measure of how hard it is, G (the owner of THC) has been at perfecting the Universe ideas for over half a year now, each prototype is better than the last. He's an expert at this sort of stuff, has excellent resources and experience in the field, and yet he's not there yet. If it was a simple as the RAW folks would have you think he's wasting his time and the hundreds of us waiting on his new product (not to mention the thousands enjoying TV herb units right now) would have to be pretty dumb......

Sorry to be blunt, but you're up against it I'm afraid.

Unfortunately, I think you've picked a tough bronc to ride.....

Good luck.

OF

OF>>> Okey, thanks man I just wanna find a small portable one so I can attach it to a bong. I recently tried a Atmos RAW, attached to a bong but also without and it combusted. Kinda smooth hit's anyways with water filtration.

Has anyone ever tried one of these? Seems nice but does it combust or not?

http://gentlemansvapes.com/collections/luxury-vapor-pens

personalities said:

OF>>> Okey, thanks man I just wanna find a small portable one so I can attach it to a bong. I recently tried a Atmos RAW, attached to a bong but also without and it combusted. Kinda smooth hit's anyways with water filtration.

Has anyone ever tried one of these? Seems nice but does it combust or not?

http://gentlemansvapes.com/collections/luxury-vapor-pens

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You're welcome.

I'd steer clear of GV as well, for the same sort of reasons. Another modified e-cig most guys come to regret.

You might want to consider the TV Evolution. It's a bit more bucks, but top notch gear and has a good rep with the 'glass guys'. It's top is designed to mate directly IIRC. It takes a bit of learning, but guys get great volumes of vapor out of them to fill their bongs to their heart's delight.....or so they say. There's a forum for them here, full of interesting reading.
http://thermovape.com/collections/all/products/thermovape-evolution-kit-black

In the last photo, you can see how you'd remove the mouthpiece and then the plastic heat shield mates with the standard glass fitting.

Good luck.

OF

Just gotta say I am disappointed to read this thread. Dunno if you've seen this at all but in the latest edition of High Times magazine they did a vapour pen comparison and the Atmos Raw was declared the winner so I was seriously considering buying one . . . until I started reading this thread.

The thing is that I already own the Thermovape Evolution (which came in 2nd place in the HT article) and I've found it to be, um, lacking in punching power and as such it is now gathering dust in my closet. To me, a vapourizer is all about getting the most bang for your buck. I own the Extreme Q and I've used a Vocano and a Silver Surfer and all these models use a miniscule amount of herb and get you extremely blasted . . . so am I way off base in assuming a portable/pen model should do the same?

Go check out the T1 thread, the Thermovape folks just released an updated heat core for both the Evolution and the T1, which you at least have the battery part for. You don't need to waste $200 on a combustion device, you already have thermovape parts, you can add to them for much less $, they are modular.

I'll drop you in the current T1 thread, you can catch up on what's happening now, then work your way back if you want more info.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/thermovape.4770/page-199

Or, if you have given up on thermovape, the Pax is one awesome vape with a serious punch on the high setting. Does not combust.

http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/pax-vaporizer-by-ploom.6223/page-129

Papoose said:

I own the Extreme Q and I've used a Vocano and a Silver Surfer and all these models use a miniscule amount of herb and get you extremely blasted . . . so am I way off base in assuming a portable/pen model should do the same?

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First off, what Jam just said.

As to your point above, you have a good one. Portables are not in the same class with Volcano and EQ. The could be if they were bigger and had cords. If you read nameplates you'll find the big guys are many times the power consumed. The just don't have enough battery on board to compete, nor were they intended to. You can get good performance from them, but it takes more careful use. Guys do get 'big clouds' from Evolution, but they have to work a bit for it.

In a way, the performance you seek and 'small, efficient, easy to carry' are compromises on opposite ends of the scale same scale. One takes away from the other. You trade MPG for 'quick off the line'. No free lunches.

If that's not your cup of tea, I suggest Jam's suggestion of PAX has considerable merit.

Good luck.

OF

i love this pen but its too pricey when its from atmos, there is one for like 20 bucks out there that works almost as good but for 20 bucks who cares

Fo said:

i love this pen but its too pricey when its from atmos, there is one for like 20 bucks out there that works almost as good but for 20 bucks who cares

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you got a link?

I agree but I don't. I believe the batteries now a days do warrant enough power to provide the type of vapor we all love and expect from our home units and I think we are on the brink of finding one that even perhaps OUTPERFORMS the home units.

Vapor critic was adamant that the Pax could NOT deliver full body dense vapors. And for me thats a deal breaker. Plus with all the little digital readouts I feel like that's just room for more error to occur.

Thermovape is interesting. I should be getting a 710pen real soon for review as well.

The journey continues....fun one tho.

Well, here is what I got the pax to do...with zero combustion.

Has anyone found an absolute fix for no combustion?

Papoose said:

Dunno if you've seen this at all but in the latest edition of High Times magazine they did a vapour pen comparison and the Atmos Raw was declared the winner so I was seriously considering buying one . . . until I started reading this thread.

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High Times Mag is far too corporate to give fair reviews, IMHO.

they gave the prize for Best New Product of the Year to a credit card sized cheese grater, two years in a row. i guess they hadn't sold them all the first year.
WTF?