How slow you should draw? It would be interesting to know, how long it should take for an average guy to draw when starting with lungs empty and pulling as much as possible?
Discontinued Pax Vaporizer by Ploom
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How slow you should draw? It would be interesting to know, how long it should take for an average guy to draw when starting with lungs empty and pulling as much as possible?
Slightly Medicated
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I thought I would take a moment to talk about the draw again. I wanted to respond to pokalolo last night, but I had some net problems. He is absolutely right about drawing slowly. You want to draw at a pace that is less then or equal to the amount of vapor the PAX is currently producing.
I thought I would post this again:
You can see how I kind of pull from the throat and cheeks more then the lungs. I find this generally provides the best results. It also really reduces the "restrictive draw" feeling that some poeple complain about. I find it greatly reduces the drag, and makes it more like what you would find in a cigar, blunt, or joint.
I also find the experience of hitting the PAX this way also feels quite similar to the ritual of enjoying a cigar. I like to hold the vapor in my mouth for a moment before I take breath it in. It delivers a much more enjoyable/cooler hit, and I cough much less than I do with some other dry vaporizers with this technique.
I thought I would post this again:
You can see how I kind of pull from the throat and cheeks more then the lungs. I find this generally provides the best results. It also really reduces the "restrictive draw" feeling that some poeple complain about. I find it greatly reduces the drag, and makes it more like what you would find in a cigar, blunt, or joint.
I also find the experience of hitting the PAX this way also feels quite similar to the ritual of enjoying a cigar. I like to hold the vapor in my mouth for a moment before I take breath it in. It delivers a much more enjoyable/cooler hit, and I cough much less than I do with some other dry vaporizers with this technique.
After 2 full sessions with a friend of mine last night to break in the device I love it. I'm going to see how many days it takes for the mouthpiece to feel sticky. And I quiet like the way this vape hits. No more lungs full of dry hot air for a small vapor hit. It was like sharing a joint. Absolutely awesome device
Vapor Junkie
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Been using mine 2-6 times daily for 2 weeks now. Cleaned it one time. Mouthpiece action has never felt sticky in any way. Temp button works easily and perfectly.
I'm not sure why my experience has been better than others' but I'm not complaining
. I find myself using the Pax every time I want to medicate just for the sheer convenience and speed of it. My EQ is now fully retired and I haven't even been using my Inhalater very often.
I'm not sure why my experience has been better than others' but I'm not complaining
. I find myself using the Pax every time I want to medicate just for the sheer convenience and speed of it. My EQ is now fully retired and I haven't even been using my Inhalater very often.
Azathoth
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Even though I have a couple of issues with my Pax (mouthpiece not staying closed reliably, temperature indicator coming on during warm-up - both have workarounds), I haven't sent it back for replacement or service. The issues I have are minor and don't really affect the usability of the device for me, and it's such a great portable vape, IMO. I'd be bummed not to have it handy, though I could always use my MFLB as backup...just not the same. That said, it's a bummer that a vape at the price point of the Pax came equipped with extra "gotcha's", but I'm not too annoyed because of how well the device functions.
Got my Pax overnight from Ploom. Went right on the charger for about 6 hours. The charge indicator never
changed from red. So, I gave it a try between 4 people and it works very well. No learning curve for us. Got 2 great sessions out of the unit, then back on the charger overnight. Today, no indicator lights at all. Unit will not turn on. Charging light is on when on the charging stand, but that is all. Notified Ploom, so I expect this unit will go back in exchange for a fully functioning one. Got the cobalt blue one, and I wish it would keep working because it is a very well designed vape.
changed from red. So, I gave it a try between 4 people and it works very well. No learning curve for us. Got 2 great sessions out of the unit, then back on the charger overnight. Today, no indicator lights at all. Unit will not turn on. Charging light is on when on the charging stand, but that is all. Notified Ploom, so I expect this unit will go back in exchange for a fully functioning one. Got the cobalt blue one, and I wish it would keep working because it is a very well designed vape.
tig420
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same thing with my pax it just wouldnt charge it sucks cause i never even got a real chance to get into my Pax and then it was dead and now i am waiting for vapeworld to send me a replacement
dudeeitsbrian
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for those having charging problems... try turning the charger around. you can put the pax on it facing either direction, when i first got my pax it was having issues charging but once putting it on the base facing the other direction, it magically began charging for some reason. now it works no matter which direction i put it on the charger, weird stuff.
dudeeitsbrian
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was worth a try, not sure why it worked for me and not you, but i'm sure ploom will take care of the issue via warranty.
say mephisto, could i trouble you for a quick photo of your cobalt pax?
I've been dying to see what color this thing actually is!
Even on the ploom official website the photos of the cobalt color arent consistent: (All images below sourced directly from ploom.com)
In each photo the cobalt blue pax looks completely different??? You can understand my confusion.... So what does the cobalt look like exactly??
It would be much appreciated if someone could solve this mystery for me! I've been waiting to pull the trigger on this, and I really can't decide whether to go with onyx or cobalt.
Thanks!
dudeeitsbrian
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say mephisto, could i trouble you for a quick photo of your cobalt pax?
I've been dying to see what color this thing actually is!
Even on the ploom official website the photos of the cobalt color arent consistent: (All images below sourced directly from ploom.com)
<-- lol wtf this one looks purple.
In each photo the cobalt blue pax looks completely different??? You can understand my confusion.... So what does the cobalt look like exactly??
It would be much appreciated if someone could solve this mystery for me! I've been waiting to pull the trigger on this, and I really can't decide whether to go with onyx or cobalt.
Thanks!
the second instagram picture posted at the top of this page... the color of the light is nearly identical to the color of the light when actually heating up, its just in a bright room. i think its safe to say that's the actual color of the device. also, the mouthpiece looks exactly the same as mine, and the orange juice is the exact color of.... orange juice. just saying, it looks like a legitimate depiction of the color of the device to me (i do not/will not ever own the cobalt pax, just voicing my opinion).
edit: i suppose you could be right, since the iced coffee looks like orange juice
maybe i've been using my pax too much this morning...
oh thaaaats how ya do it. 
It is futile to expect to get exact colour reproduction from pictures posted on the web. The camera interprets the colour and can be way off, especially in the blue part of the spectrum. The image processing can make a drastic difference, either intentionally or not, and with Instagram, who knows. The monitor you view it on can also make a huge difference.
The best you can hope for is something in the picture that has a known colour that you can use for reference, as you were trying to do. If I take that last pic into Photoshop and try to make it look like iced coffee, everything else looks so bad I'm thinking that probably it actuallly is orange juice.
the second instagram picture posted at the top of this page... the color of the light is nearly identical to the color of the light when actually heating up, its just in a bright room. i think its safe to say that's the actual color of the device. also, the mouthpiece looks exactly the same as mine, and the orange juice is the exact color of.... orange juice. just saying, it looks like a legitimate depiction of the color of the device to me (i do not/will not ever own the cobalt pax, just voicing my opinion).
edit: i suppose you could be right, since the iced coffee looks like orange juice
The best you can hope for is something in the picture that has a known colour that you can use for reference, as you were trying to do. If I take that last pic into Photoshop and try to make it look like iced coffee, everything else looks so bad I'm thinking that probably it actuallly is orange juice.
JoeKickass
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Someone did take a picture of a blue Pax that looked un-retouched, they were one of the first people to get one, if anyone wants to go wading back a bunch of pages...
Mephisto, as for your Pax not charging, it's possible you've drained the battery completely, so it puts out no voltage. The way a charger like the Pax's works is to put out a trickle of power and then once it detects a battery in place (by reading it's voltage) it puts out the full current. If your battery is totally dead then the charger won't detect it. However, that trickle of power would eventually charge the battery back up to the point it needs to be to be detected and then get charged.
Where can I buy one of these for the UK? Thanks guys. After reading the thread this sounds like the vape for me. Looks nice and stealthy, easy to use. And the draw seems like what I want, like a blunt, joint. I will be mostly using this before training or with friends.
I thinking between this, inhalator and the vivape 2
I thinking between this, inhalator and the vivape 2
it depends, what are you looking to compare between hits? potency and satisfaction, or efficiency/stealth?
In potency and satisfaction, the MFLB just cannot touch the PAX. Not one bit. Not with powerex batteries, not with the PA setup, nothing. It just does not compare, it is like racing an M3 with a toyota prius.
But the car comparison kind of holds apt imo, because efficiency/stealth is the only place the MFLB dominates. The only true one-hitter (as the heat up and cooldown times are near instant), with a smallish cloud you can control real well.
Taste wise? They're pretty similar - the PAX adds a tiny bit of mouthpiece air flavor, and the MFLB adds a tiny bit of wood flavor. They're both hardly perceptible.
But yes, if you'er looking for satisfaction.. the PAX is it. I found the MFLB frustrating (yes, even with PA), personally. If you've got a decent tolerance you'll need to carry around at least 3-4 batteries on the MFLB for a single session.
This is an opinion, not fact. You should state it as such. I realize that some people (SliM for example) find the MFLB does not do the job for them but to say outright that the MFLB cannot touch the Pax even with a PA is strictly your opinion, and one that leads me to believe you just never learned how to use your LB.
willieR
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I was curious about the potential thickness of the vape. I'm perfectly happy with the MFLB with the PA. The batts are OK as long as the herb is ground fine and dry. Standard vape procedure. But the bud isn't always dry and that makes for not-so-fine grinding, and that's where I find the LB + batts lacking.
The Pax seems small enould to be considered as stealthy as the LB, so that's fine with me. The Pax must have some kinda great battery. When that goes, as all batteries do, can that be replaced?
The Pax seems small enould to be considered as stealthy as the LB, so that's fine with me. The Pax must have some kinda great battery. When that goes, as all batteries do, can that be replaced?
That is an excellent question and I don't think anyone here can answer it accurately. The battery, of course, does not fall under the 10 year warranty. There will be a battery replacement programme, apparently. Here's what I've been wondering: Since Ploom refuses to acknowledge the real primary use of this device (they insist it is for tobacco and legal herbs only) will they disqualify a warranty on a device that has been used for weed?
I hold it upside down to twirl a q-tip (squeeze off most of the iso) on the end of the draw tube and when using the pipecleaner so any iso drips out the tube and not into the enclosure. The button is pretty close to where you are cleaning. I'm hoping keeping it inverted while cleaning will prevent any damage to the switch.
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