Arizer Solo

kushcabbage

kushcabbage

vapor nerd
oh for holding stems, I miss understood, I was talking about using teflon tape to keep my metal stems together, and make a tighter seal on the heater. edit: (I'm not sure those battery caps would leave a residue on something hot like the glass. Do not use them myself, see stickstones reply below) Try using a 4 inch or so square piece of baking parchment paper, slide it over the cover, and rubber band up the neck sealing the high temp paper over it.
 
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stickstones

stickstones

Vapor concierge
this is far from definitive, but I've been using the rubber caps for months and haven't seen anything that concerns me. The rubber gets warm and they get just a tiny bit more flexible, but when they come off they aren't stuck or leaving any visible residue. The one I used for my wood stem has stretched a little to fit it and is slightly too big for my glass stem now. Again, this is just observational data and I have no idea if anything is going on at a molecular level.
 
poonman

poonman

Well-Known Member
I've only used the caps for preloads ,
I find them very helpful for changing stems at the stop lights while on the go .
I've never re-capped the stems when they're hot , maybe warm at times .
And I don't find too many grind stuck to the inside of the cap either .

I'm going to try that Saran wrap method ,
Sounds a lot easier to peel off than the rubber caps . ( when in transit mode )
But I'm a little worry of the " Static cling " it might have on my grind .
If there is any ?

re; caps at PV
caps = $1.49
Can taxes = 13 %
Shipping costs = $25 ? ( wtf , I live in Toronto ) Lol
 
poonman,
J

Jurassic

Member
Poon, the reason I went with saran wrap was because I was getting static cling with the battery caps! lol Then again they were BRAND NEW, not worked in, and maybe the bowls weren't packed tight enough or I had too much in them. Never once had an issue with the saran wrap with static cling, and it's WAAAAY easier to remove than the caps, and you can just throw the saran wrap out. You really only need the teeeniest piece too. You could use alot of things really, like an elastic too I suppose.

$25 for shipping sounds impossible for PV... I've bought things alot bigger/heavier and shipping was quite reasonable at under $10 I believe, and I don't live far from you. But yeah if there is nothing else to purchase than it's not feasible. Can't you get these caps at Radio Shack or something? lol
 
Jurassic,
AceTK

AceTK

Radiant Thoughtforms
Sarin asin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinylidene_chloride

Well just a quick extract from that page shows an issue.

Properties

It is a remarkable barrier against water, oxygen and aromas. It has a superior chemical resistance to alkalies and acids, is insoluble in oil and organic solvents, has very low moisture regain and is impervious to mold, bacteria, and insects. But it is soluble in polar solvents.
It has good thermal stability, but above 125 °C decomposes to produce HCl.


HCL is hydrochloric acid
 
havealight101

havealight101

Norski
I, like Sticks, have no problem with putting them on a hot stem. I think 300 c is over kill, as the glass never gets close to that hot. I can check the temp with an IR if needed...
I actually put the cap on half way after 2-4 pulls, give it a couple flicks with the finger(to stir), then push the cap all the way down(and then some), pull it off, and I get a nicely stirred bowl in just a few seconds with no mess. I never founder any residual cap to be hanging around. :2cents:
 
poonman

poonman

Well-Known Member
Jurassic said:
Poon, the reason I went with saran wrap was because I was getting static cling with the battery caps! lol Then again they were BRAND NEW, not worked in, and maybe the bowls weren't packed tight enough or I had too much in them. Never once had an issue with the saran wrap with static cling, and it's WAAAAY easier to remove than the caps, and you can just throw the saran wrap out. You really only need the teeeniest piece too. You could use alot of things really, like an elastic too I suppose.

$25 for shipping sounds impossible for PV... I've bought things alot bigger/heavier and shipping was quite reasonable at under $10 I believe, and I don't live far from you. But yeah if there is nothing else to purchase than it's not feasible. Can't you get these caps at Radio Shack or something? lol
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Thanx again J ,
$10 is more reasonable .
As you can tell , I've never ordered from them....yet . :)

If only we could co-ordered together to save some $$$:brow:
Who's in ?

I need 4 more straight PVHES stems ( 4 holes - big bowls )
4 more caps . ( for my mflb batteries )
And let's see , what else do I need ....

Just Kidding FC ,
I know the rules . NO hook ups
 
poonman,
stickstones

stickstones

Vapor concierge
havealight101 said:
I, like Sticks, have no problem with putting them on a hot stem. I think 300 c is over kill, as the glass never gets close to that hot. I can check the temp with an IR if needed...
I actually put the cap on half way after 2-4 pulls, give it a couple flicks with the finger(to stir), then push the cap all the way down(and then some), pull it off, and I get a nicely stirred bowl in just a few seconds with no mess. I never founder any residual cap to be hanging around. :2cents:
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I like this stir tip! I'll give that a whirl.
 
J

Jurassic

Member
AceTK said:
Sarin asin http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyvinylidene_chloride

Well just a quick extract from that page shows an issue.

Properties

It is a remarkable barrier against water, oxygen and aromas. It has a superior chemical resistance to alkalies and acids, is insoluble in oil and organic solvents, has very low moisture regain and is impervious to mold, bacteria, and insects. But it is soluble in polar solvents.
It has good thermal stability, but above 125 °C decomposes to produce HCl.


HCL is hydrochloric acid
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I don't think anyone suggested using saran wrap on a hot stem. That would be stupid, and common sense I would think. But for a cold stem for preload, it's flawless.

havealight101 said:
I, like Sticks, have no problem with putting them on a hot stem. I think 300 c is over kill, as the glass never gets close to that hot. I can check the temp with an IR if needed...
I actually put the cap on half way after 2-4 pulls, give it a couple flicks with the finger(to stir), then push the cap all the way down(and then some), pull it off, and I get a nicely stirred bowl in just a few seconds with no mess. I never founder any residual cap to be hanging around. :2cents:
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Wow, great idea! I never took to the caps, but now i'm starting to think because they weren't "worked in"? I can huge difficulty putting them on and getting them off, I couldn't even imagine how hard it would be to do what you just said. Gotta be cuz they're too new, but also like I said earlier, I would always get the plant matter sticking to the inside of the cap. Again, new.
 
Jurassic,
M

mr_

Well-Known Member
poonman said:
I've only used the caps for preloads ,
I find them very helpful for changing stems at the stop lights while on the go .
I've never re-capped the stems when they're hot , maybe warm at times .
And I don't find too many grind stuck to the inside of the cap either .

I'm going to try that Saran wrap method ,
Sounds a lot easier to peel off than the rubber caps . ( when in transit mode )
But I'm a little worry of the " Static cling " it might have on my grind .
If there is any ?

re; caps at PV
caps = $1.49
Can taxes = 13 %
Shipping costs = $25 ? ( wtf , I live in Toronto ) Lol
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And I live in Chicago, and the shipping is about the same.

I don't mind paying $1-2 each, but the shipping kills it. I was even going to buy the power adapter from PV but the shipping kills it. Probably will go with puffitup for that, but they don't carry extra battery caps.

Ends up being $10 shipped for 2 caps through PV. Still kinda steep for 2 rubber caps.
 
mr_,
M

mr_

Well-Known Member
Jurassic said:
I don't think anyone suggested using saran wrap on a hot stem. That would be stupid, and common sense I would think. But for a cold stem for preload, it's flawless.
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I mainly use my one battery cap for 3 stems, not so efficient but thats all I got. It helps to keep the bowl pre-packed, but I use it even more when I'm in a hurry and need to put the hot stem into a padded pouch.

Saran wrap, etc will easily melt with even a warm stem. I need to hit up Radioshack and Home depot.
 
mr_,
J

Jurassic

Member
mr_ said:
And I live in Chicago, and the shipping is about the same.

I don't mind paying $1-2 each, but the shipping kills it. I was even going to buy the power adapter from PV but the shipping kills it. Probably will go with puffitup for that, but they don't carry extra battery caps.

Ends up being $10 shipped for 2 caps through PV. Still kinda steep for 2 rubber caps.
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So maybe buy a pvhes stem as well or something else they offer like a smoke buddy to make it more feasible? Otherwise save your cash, get the PA from them and some other shit cuz they have free shipping over $140 i think. Probably doesnt help you though considering you don't wanna spend that much.

When/if I order some stuff from there i'll stock up on the caps and send them to whoever wants them. I honestly didn't think anyone really used them based on my personal experience as noted above.
 
Jurassic,
J

Jurassic

Member
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Thanks Sticks, that explains it....never used them on a hot stem because they are plastic and I was apprehensive. I can see how they would expand and mold better. On cold stems when new it was practically impossible. Suddenly the Solo is starting to look better again to me.
 
Jurassic,
M

mr_

Well-Known Member
Jurassic said:
So maybe buy a pvhes stem as well or something else they offer like a smoke buddy to make it more feasible? Otherwise save your cash, get the PA from them and some other shit cuz they have free shipping over $140 i think. Probably doesnt help you though considering you don't wanna spend that much.

When/if I order some stuff from there i'll stock up on the caps and send them to whoever wants them. I honestly didn't think anyone really used them based on my personal experience as noted above.
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I tried that before posting. PVHES stems and stealth stem are both out of stock.

I'll have to put this on the back burner until I find a solution locally or they have the stems back in stock
 
mr_,
J

Jurassic

Member
Apparently the pvhes stems will be fully stocked very shortly. Hmmm, I know they will be making a pvhe gong, but do you know if they will make the same for the stealth stem?

Also, are these actually really used to cap batteries? Anyone know what material it is?
 
Jurassic,
mmenzie

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
Jurassic said:
but do you know if they will make the same for the stealth stem?
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i asked the same exact question in the PV thread but did not get a clear answer. i hope they do cause i use my stealth adapter all the time. come to think of it.... even if they don't, it may be ok. i get great airflow using a straw and my stealth adapter. dare i say... i get better airflow using those then i do with the stock stems i have. strange... but to me it seems that way
 
mmenzie,
M

mr_

Well-Known Member
The caps are originally used to cap peeled batteries for the MFLB. If you don't have a cap on the positive terminal, if it touches keys/metal it can heat up and even explode.

Its a rubber cap that fits over a AA battery
 
mr_,
poonman

poonman

Well-Known Member
All this " Rubber capping " talk is reminding me of my sex-life as a single guy .

Yes , sometimes I "pre-load " that too ......Rimshot !

Thank you ,
Good night ,
And don't forget to tip the Waitress .:lol:
 
J

Jurassic

Member
mmenzie said:
i asked the same exact question in the PV thread but did not get a clear answer. i hope they do cause i use my stealth adapter all the time. come to think of it.... even if they don't, it may be ok. i get great airflow using a straw and my stealth adapter. dare i say... i get better airflow using those then i do with the stock stems i have. strange... but to me it seems that way
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Maybe i'll ask again in the PV thread, or email them... I don't see why they wouldn't though? So do you use your stealth without a straw ever? How's the airflow, similar to a stock stem? How is it with a staw, do you get a decent seal? What kind of straws? Are you not concerned with the hot vapour reacting with the plastic of the straw? Do you think you get better airflow because there isn't a tight seal to the straw, and therefore introduces more fresh air to your vapour stream? Do you use it in a cup to stealth?

Sorry about so many questions! lol

mr_ said:
The caps are originally used to cap peeled batteries for the MFLB. If you don't have a cap on the positive terminal, if it touches keys/metal it can heat up and even explode.

Its a rubber cap that fits over a AA battery
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Rubber? Felt more like plastic to me, but i could be wrong.
 
Jurassic,
mmenzie

mmenzie

My friends call me "Menz"
Jurassic said:
Maybe i'll ask again in the PV thread, or email them... I don't see why they wouldn't though? So do you use your stealth without a straw ever? How's the airflow, similar to a stock stem? How is it with a staw, do you get a decent seal? What kind of straws? Are you not concerned with the hot vapour reacting with the plastic of the straw? Do you think you get better airflow because there isn't a tight seal to the straw, and therefore introduces more fresh air to your vapour stream? Do you use it in a cup to stealth?
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never used the stealth adapter without the straw so i can't comment on it. i only use it with the straw cause thats why i got it. i built a McDonalds cup stealth for my solo for using in the car and other places i can carry the cup to. I find the airflow better with the straw and the adapter than i do with the stock stems (i do not own any PVHES stems.. yet) as strange as that sounds, but maybe it's just me. i have a great seal. i put the solo in my stealth cup (mediaum McDonalds cup), then i put the stealth adapter on. i then put the cups lid on. the stealth adapter tip sticks just so slightly outside the cups lid. i then put a McDonalds straw on the adapter and cut it to a length that makes it look more normal. i then lightly tap the top of the straw so it goes further down on the adapter and it makes a great seal. the vapor does not do anything to the straw from what i can see. no melting at all.

hope that helps you some. there are pictures of this mod in the thread... i know... thats where i got the idea from... the idea is NOT my own
 
mmenzie,
M

mr_

Well-Known Member
I'm even lazier, I just use a subway cup and use the straight stem that comes with the Solo. Just don't get too close to anyone and most people can't tell.
 
J

Jurassic

Member
mmenzie said:
never used the stealth adapter without the straw so i can't comment on it. i only use it with the straw cause thats why i got it. i built a McDonalds cup stealth for my solo for using in the car and other places i can carry the cup to. I find the airflow better with the straw and the adapter than i do with the stock stems (i do not own any PVHES stems.. yet) as strange as that sounds, but maybe it's just me. i have a great seal. i put the solo in my stealth cup (mediaum McDonalds cup), then i put the stealth adapter on. i then put the cups lid on. the stealth adapter tip sticks just so slightly outside the cups lid. i then put a McDonalds straw on the adapter and cut it to a length that makes it look more normal. i then lightly tap the top of the straw so it goes further down on the adapter and it makes a great seal. the vapor does not do anything to the straw from what i can see. no melting at all.

hope that helps you some. there are pictures of this mod in the thread... i know... thats where i got the idea from... the idea is NOT my own
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Thanks! I did see that post/pic from way back. I would just be too paranoid of the straw's plastic offgassing from the hot vapours, especially in light of BPA and how plastics can be so carcinogenic. I suppose if the taste isn't already you may be ok, but I personally wouldn't even take the risk. Doesn't the straw "collapse" as you inhale due to the poor airflow of the stock stealth adapter? At least you got the mcdonalds cup, so you REALLY could have a thick milk shake effect lol

mr_ said:
I'm even lazier, I just use a subway cup and use the straight stem that comes with the Solo. Just don't get too close to anyone and most people can't tell.
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I like this idea. Even better with the pvhes straight stem!
 
Jurassic,
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