Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

Dgtheonlyg said:

thanks man, i actually prefer budder in the cart its alot smoother and last longer

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Did you find that the 5 ohm carts needed a bit of oxidizing before tasting enjoyable? My budder is perfectly purged and tastes delicious off of my nail and the very first pull from the cart tasted delicious, but now the hits from the cart are tasting nasty like the old 1.5ohm carts. Any ideas?

By the way, I'm getting mega clouds with 5ohm plus 7.4v with the mere touch of the button. Unbelievable! Now it's a taste thing.

kindbeats said:

Did you find that the 5 ohm carts needed a bit of oxidizing before tasting enjoyable? My budder is perfectly purged and tastes delicious off of my nail and the very first pull from the cart tasted delicious, but now the hits from the cart are tasting nasty like the old 1.5ohm carts. Any ideas?

By the way, I'm getting mega clouds with 5ohm plus 7.4v with the mere touch of the button. Unbelievable! Now it's a taste thing.

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Unfortunately I have same problem that erl in Cartridge doesn't have taste of oil on nail. Y I am waiting for universal and new cart.

kindbeats said:

Did you find that the 5 ohm carts needed a bit of oxidizing before tasting enjoyable? My budder is perfectly purged and tastes delicious off of my nail and the very first pull from the cart tasted delicious, but now the hits from the cart are tasting nasty like the old 1.5ohm carts. Any ideas?

By the way, I'm getting mega clouds with 5ohm plus 7.4v with the mere touch of the button. Unbelievable! Now it's a taste thing.

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kittyboy said:

Unfortunately I have same problem that erl in Cartridge doesn't have taste of oil on nail. Y I am waiting for universal and new cart.

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A couple of thoughts. If the first hit "tastes delicious" but goes south after that, it's obviously not an oxide or contamination issue (those get better with time, not worse).

Secondly, something happened soon after the start that caused problems after that. To me the obvious is the oil got burnt. Once you burn dinner, it's burnt. You really have to start over with a clean pan and new turkey. The stuffing is toast.....

I see quality vapor production and 'huge clouds' to be two ends of the compromise scale. If taste is a primary goal to me using two 'low producing' but otherwise tasty carts in parallel (dual cart on Omicron) or simply longer and more hits to be a better solution. It depends, I think, on what you're willing to trade for what. I can drive aggressively and get there faster (and maybe have more fun doing it), but I'll burn more gas and collect more tickets and accidents along the road of life in the process.

No free lunches to use another food analogy. Two in one post? Must be time to make breakfast......

OF

Bob Loblaw said:

Sounds like you have a bad v2.5 top. at only 10 bucks, i'd just get a new one. you do have to be easy on the 14250's tho. don't run 'em down. unfortunately none of the heads read low batt well enough for these. i have had a few bad ones as well, i usually have a few extras laying around. change 'em early and often, is my advice

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Good call Bob! I have two V2.5 tops, one blinks on the mini setup or the long tube the other one works fine. Not the batteries after all.

GR said:

Good call Bob! I have two V2.5 tops, one blinks on the mini setup or the long tube the other one works fine. Not the batteries after all.

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nice! glad i could help!

OF said:

A couple of thoughts. If the first hit "tastes delicious" but goes south after that, it's obviously not an oxide or contamination issue (those get better with time, not worse).

Secondly, something happened soon after the start that caused problems after that. To me the obvious is the oil got burnt. Once you burn dinner, it's burnt. You really have to start over with a clean pan and new turkey. The stuffing is toast.....

I see quality vapor production and 'huge clouds' to be two ends of the compromise scale. If taste is a primary goal to me using two 'low producing' but otherwise tasty carts in parallel (dual cart on Omicron) or simply longer and more hits to be a better solution. It depends, I think, on what you're willing to trade for what. I can drive aggressively and get there faster (and maybe have more fun doing it), but I'll burn more gas and collect more tickets and accidents along the road of life in the process.

No free lunches to use another food analogy. Two in one post? Must be time to make breakfast......

OF

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Thanks OF. I will have to be much more gentle with my next load.

kindbeats said:

Did you find that the 5 ohm carts needed a bit of oxidizing before tasting enjoyable? My budder is perfectly purged and tastes delicious off of my nail and the very first pull from the cart tasted delicious, but now the hits from the cart are tasting nasty like the old 1.5ohm carts. Any ideas?

By the way, I'm getting mega clouds with 5ohm plus 7.4v with the mere touch of the button. Unbelievable! Now it's a taste thing.

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It's just it gets nasty because the less product there is in there the hotter the cart runs and could burn the budder at 7.4 you have to prime carefully like with 1.5ohms. For oxidizing the 5 ohm I just made sure it was glowing red, once I load my stuff I prime carefully first few times to property oxidize

OF said:

A couple of thoughts. If the first hit "tastes delicious" but goes south after that, it's obviously not an oxide or contamination issue (those get better with time, not worse).

Secondly, something happened soon after the start that caused problems after that. To me the obvious is the oil got burnt. Once you burn dinner, it's burnt. You really have to start over with a clean pan and new turkey. The stuffing is toast.....

I see quality vapor production and 'huge clouds' to be two ends of the compromise scale. If taste is a primary goal to me using two 'low producing' but otherwise tasty carts in parallel (dual cart on Omicron) or simply longer and more hits to be a better solution. It depends, I think, on what you're willing to trade for what. I can drive aggressively and get there faster (and maybe have more fun doing it), but I'll burn more gas and collect more tickets and accidents along the road of life in the process.

No free lunches to use another food analogy. Two in one post? Must be time to make breakfast......

OF

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I am coming to understand y they recomend one fill per cart. Just filled a 2.4 and taste great. But I am concerned that since i do several 4-6 second button push with each hit if maybe part of problem is erl getting heated too much before use? A la cart heating up too much. I did drain a good dark goo from it,

mmmmm this newest batch of iso hash came out much better.. smells so good, i basically put a bunch of different good screen pulls of bubble hash.. shook it in a jar with iso 91% for about 3mins, then filtered it thru a coffee filter.. but instead of the rice cooker i just put a fan on it and let it air evaporate.. it was done this morning and i put it in the oven at 220 for 10mins to let it melt and bubble any residual out, then threw it in the freezer immediately, after 2 hours scraped it together (it was a bunch of kiefy looking beautiful light color, but if it touched my skin it melted, so it was way hard to handle and scrape).. after the kief stack was together, put it in the oven for 3 mins at 170 and it melted into a oil puddle.. refroze it.. its in the freezer now until my new carts get here.. i cannot WAIT!!! hopefully theyll be here tomorrow. looks like i got about 3 grams of really high quality oil, its a mixture of kens gdp, master og kush, bubble gum, and sour diesel.

i think im going to stick with iso hash over attemping butane again, seems safer overall, and i dont have to worry about any harmful residual. consideri ng the 91% is just isopropyl and distilled water.. butane has that smell residual, even though its very slight, its still there.. and i think it makes me feel some non-herb related effects.. ive been taking a rip off the o-phos once every hour since i got it.. and i feel lovely. this o-phos vaporizer has given me my life back. other than feeling a little tired, i feel better overall. i had to cut back on the vapor genie because i started feeling weird sometimes with heavy use.. i think it was having to use a lighter as the heat source, and i think some of the butane effects were carrying over. i wasnt using quality butane in my lighter, just simple stuff from the gas station. so i had to cut down on medicating, which lead to headaches often, muscle tension, slightly elevated blood pressure, and just really not enjoying life a lot of the time.. my wife tried the ophos last night and she had that lovely eye crunch that a good high gives you. lots of smiles and laughs before a good night sleep.

your vaporizer has helped me begin to enjoy life again. thanks.

kittyboy said:

I am coming to understand y they recomend one fill per cart. Just filled a 2.4 and taste great. But I am concerned that since i do several 4-6 second button push with each hit if maybe part of problem is erl getting heated too much before use? A la cart heating up too much. I did drain a good dark goo from it,

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I think you're onto one of the insights of this system. There are two heaters, one to do the work, the other to preheat the oil and feed the wicks. This latter has to be powerful enough to feed 'worst case', meaning at other times it's more than needed. I think it tends to cook the oil there waiting to feed if you run the internal heater (the one making vapor) too long and hard. It takes a lot of heat to change from one phase (liquid) to the next (gas). This is why steam burns are so nasty, the temperature is 'only' 212 degrees, but there's a huge amount of energy available as it condenses on the skin.

Same thing happens here. As we dump a lot of power into the heater trying to make 'huge clouds' (or even more reasonable levels sometimes) that same extra power is cooking the oil ready to feed.

For such a small number of bits, it's surprisingly complex in the way it works. Which is probably why it works so well.

If you have clean concentrates and take it easy you can usually get several grams through without issues, but sometimes ten bucks for a new cart is money well spent. Then again, they do a bang up job......

OF

I gave up on the 1.5 and 4ohm carts because my oils just kept tasting burned. They seem to work well with the 2.4ohm, so that's a good place for me to stay. I just got Persei and a couple of 5ohm carts, so I might test that on 6v when I make another round of oil to fill them with. Hoping the taste is good with that combo. BTW, I know this is Omi thread, but after using my omi-mini w/v2.5 top, and V1/o-phos style, the Persei wins hands down on performance. My cart is pumping out the vapor now, so much more than it did before.

jambandphan03 said:

I gave up on the 1.5 and 4ohm carts because my oils just kept tasting burned. They seem to work well with the 2.4ohm, so that's a good place for me to stay.

BTW, I know this is Omi thread, but after using my omi-mini w/v2.5 top, and V1/o-phos style, the Persei wins hands down on performance. My cart is pumping out the vapor now, so much more than it did before.

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With ya there, Lady. I decided I'd get clever with one of the four ohm test carts (which started out tasting pretty good then got the overcooked flavor going...) and run it at reduced voltage on one of my VV heads. I found it gave good results at 4 Volts (or a few tenths more sometimes), half a gram of nice Sour Diesel wax later, I had a (still good tasting) leaker.....

I too find 2.4s do well at what I'm happy with. Sometimes it's nice to have a 1.5 loaded up when some newbie looks sideways at the 'small clouds' though......

I agree, fully, with the Persei observation, hard to beat that big old battery in there isn't it? IME the 14500 in Omicron V2 or the Ultra supply does about the same as the Persei.

OF

I've been enjoying the HVD mini setup with the 1.5's. Very stealth, nice clouds. Half g loads with the top off now and again seem to be working well for me so far. Only thing is having to carry so many batteries, lol.

at least they are tiny batteries oh, and the 2.4ohm doesn't drain the battery as fast as the 1.5ohm.

559stonerr said:

ThIs weekend I'll be around Anaheim, Hollywood, and Huntington beach. I've been looking at weed maps and prices are ridiculous for bud.. Looks to be around 60 an 1/8th.. And wax/budder have been hard to find on there. For those in the general area or have experience with dispensaries within a 30 mile radius or those areas, could you recommend any dispensaries? Need to restock for omicron/Persei.

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Wax and Budder hard to find in SoCal??? Look harder.... every single shop I have ever been in SoCal has tons of wax. Try Venice Medical center (The Wax Kings). They dominated the NorCal and SoCal Medical Cannabis Cups this year....

CPA in Santa Ana has tons of wax....

I just checked weedmaps and they are all listing wax. are you sure you looked?

and BTW: There are places in SoCal still charging $80/8th. $60 is not bad for say anywhere near the beach. bud is cheaper the farther you get from the beach!

Ya SoCal and wax is like white on rice.

A buddy of mine is a provider for top quality oil at the Platinum Clouds Collective in San Jose... wish we were in Cali sometimes for the glut of choices, but I'll take the DIY stuff I make over nothing at all.

rufrothy said:

Wax and Budder hard to find in SoCal??? Look harder.... every single shop I have ever been in SoCal has tons of wax. Try Venice Medical center (The Wax Kings). They dominated the NorCal and SoCal Medical Cannabis Cups this year....

CPA in Santa Ana has tons of wax....

I just checked weedmaps and they are all listing wax. are you sure you looked?

and BTW: There are places in SoCal still charging $80/8th. $60 is not bad for say anywhere near the beach. bud is cheaper the farther you get from the beach!

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Dude, the wax kings kick ass!
Got some pre98 bubba and some fire og sugar bogo $60 for 2gs
All co2 and great quality... Even had bogo bud specials 7g for $40!

THC SCIENTIFIC said:

Ya SoCal and wax is like white on rice.

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yea what the hell man, i think so cal just has more wax cause theres more people. Not once in the bay have i ever seen a quarter of wax on a menu lol

g can you stack 2X 14250's on the charger on each slot?, so i can charge all 4 at once lol

Dgtheonlyg said:

yea what the hell man, i think so cal just has more wax cause theres more people. Not once in the bay have i ever seen a quarter of wax on a menu lol

g can you stack 2X 14250's on the charger on each slot?, so i can charge all 4 at once lol

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Please do not stack batteries when charging. It will make big boom.

rufrothy said:

Wax and Budder hard to find in SoCal??? Look harder.... every single shop I have ever been in SoCal has tons of wax. Try Venice Medical center (The Wax Kings). They dominated the NorCal and SoCal Medical Cannabis Cups this year....

CPA in Santa Ana has tons of wax....

I just checked weedmaps and they are all listing wax. are you sure you looked?

and BTW: There are places in SoCal still charging $80/8th. $60 is not bad for say anywhere near the beach. bud is cheaper the farther you get from the beach!

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when i was checking weedmaps for anaheim, hollywood, and huntington area i could barely any clubs with wax. but thanks for the help! i just checked venice medical and they have the most wax!!!!! going to have to check out the 2 for 1 deals on wax.

Ok this is going to sound dumb, but can you put dry material in an omicron or is it oils only, how about hash?

storybookhero said:

Ok this is going to sound dumb, but can you put dry material in an omicron or is it oils only, how about hash?

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No, only "supermelt" extracts.

super melt types only, the heater will clog with even small amounts of plant matter, these bad boys are meant just for oil/wax that melts with no residue, cheers

storybookhero said:

Ok this is going to sound dumb, but can you put dry material in an omicron or is it oils only, how about hash?

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For dry material & hash, you might want to look into the to-be-released http://fuckcombustion.com/threads/the-universe-adapter-for-herbs-and-concentrates.5772/