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weedemon

weedemon

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that oil looks lovely dude :)

is it citrus tasting at all?


A friend brought over some bud, and i traded him so i could do a run on it. got a 12.3% return on the first wash got a red/pinkish oil form it. no real taste to speak of but I think i over purged it in my effort to get all the tane out :(
 
weedemon,
stroh

stroh

errl enthusiast
why thank you!

it does have a slight citrusy-sour grapefruit taste, i went through this stuff quick though, its nearly gone!

my last few runs have been a case of under/overpurging until i finally dialed in the correct temps and noticed the difference in how butane bubbles look and react to heat. i also now oven purge my oil at 170 (lowest my damn oven goes to) after the intial water bath to be on the safe side. the resulting oil is some of the smoothest i've made, and still very tasty.

i think the oven purge really made a difference, and will be adding this step to my purge tech from now on, but will experiment with different times.

too little heat in your initial purge and you will end up with trapped butane in your oil, too much and you lose valuable flavor and psychoactive components. i would rather have overpurged oil than underpurged though, simply for health reasons.
 
stroh,
weedemon

weedemon

enthusiast
stroh said:
too little heat in your initial purge and you will end up with trapped butane in your oil, too much and you lose valuable flavor and psychoactive components. i would rather have overpurged oil than underpurged though, simply for health reasons.
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I liked your tips on adding the over purge, how i had been doing it was 2 ways,

1st: putting the oil into a glass vial and holding it with pliers. then using a torch boil it a lil bit and watch the leftover butane run away!

2nd: Using the dish i ran my butane into scrape all the oil into the center. then heat the dish from the underside using my torch and again watch the butane come out.

I think this is how i am releasing a lot of the flavor on my oils the last few times though.

I think i may have missed your answer but what do you do to fill the void space in your tube when you do these smaller runs?

I totally agree I would rather have over purged than under too!
 
weedemon,
FLskwat

FLskwat

VAPOLITICS!
Guys, I have been wondering and I need your lights on a silly question of mine:

Can you do BHO out of hash?
Let me explain, we get very high quality marroco or afghanistan hashes, semi bubble/semi pollen. What would happen if I grind/break some of it and do the traditional butane process used for buds/flowers...will I get the oil and extract all the goodies from the resin? :rolleyes:
 
FLskwat,
stroh

stroh

errl enthusiast
weedemon i dont use anything to fill the gap, just pack as tight as i can

flskwat, you can definitely run hash, you will yield huge amounts of darker, but still very tasty and aromatic oil.

only thing i would recommend is don't pack the hash super tightly or you risk blowing out. also pack a couple nugs on either side of the hash in your extractor tube.

i've heard people getting returns as high as 60% on bubble hash!
 
stroh,
FLskwat

FLskwat

VAPOLITICS!
stroh said:
weedemon i dont use anything to fill the gap, just pack as tight as i can

flskwat, you can definitely run hash, you will yield huge amounts of darker, but still very tasty and aromatic oil.

only thing i would recommend is don't pack the hash super tightly or you risk blowing out. also pack a couple nugs on either side of the hash in your extractor tube.

i've heard people getting returns as high as 60% on bubble hash!
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You are my hero today bro'... :D I'll do a run and report soon!
 
FLskwat,
weedemon

weedemon

enthusiast
FLskwat said:
You are my hero today bro'... :D I'll do a run and report soon!
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with pics too please? sounds aweseom :) I havea freind in .pt and he gets the blonde moroccan hash he loves it. says he wishes he could get buds though.
 
weedemon,
eLiguL

eLiguL

Well-Known Member
Heres a link(Pg.86) for a guide to making BHO in an issue of Treating Yourself magazine.

If im lucky enough to come across some trim I may try this. :ninja:
 
eLiguL,
weedemon

weedemon

enthusiast
make it with buds dude! you get nicer oil!

today i made to batches. one run of 40/60 split master kush/ mighty mite this gave a 10% return on the first wash. very tasty put it all in my omicron except a 0.2 for dabs :) this run was packed super tight!

then a 13% return on a batch of afghani i packed this one much looser than the first batch, still tight, but not crammed in there. im scared to do runs with void spaces in it. i dont want a blow out! :o
this oil is very earthy and clear on the high. I really like this strain. strong high, but clear enough to function after :p
 
weedemon,
smokum

smokum

I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
When I do bho bud runs, I hand break up the buds and fill the tube (whether I'm using an SS turkey baster or specific glass tubes), while 'evenly' packing throughout the tube filling. Not rock hard or excessive packing.

I've found that when I used to either use whole buds or broken up ones that if I packed 'hard/tight' the butane would channel its exit and not produce as good a yield as the latter (butane reaching less surface area to strip the goodies as opposed to a good full complete soaking extraction).

As long as you avoid having air 'pockets' in your pack (and even then), its very unlikely that a blowout will occur. I also start my spraying for a couple seconds in a light but evenly packed tube (leaving approx. 1/4 inch gap of material at the spray end).... pause about 15 seconds or so.... then complete my spray, and it has worked great that way for me with yields of anywhere between 12-20% depending on material quality.
 
smokum,
JDSupreme

JDSupreme

Head of Pot
Blowouts are a non-issue with the Honey Bee :D Cap screws on the end with a filter on the inside. Love this thing!
 
JDSupreme,
S

Sour Deez

Active Member
Do you guys do second runs with the same material?

And if the tube holds 14g and you only want to run say 7g, can you just pack the material like usual and just have an empty space at the top? Or would that be bad? How do you guys do smaller runs?
 
Sour Deez,
smokum

smokum

I am who I am and your approval isn't needed!
In either my small glass or stainless steel turkey baster I've had anywhere from 7-14 g's dependent on the bud size or density fill the tube almost end to end lightly plugged.

If I don't have enough to get the tube packed, leaving approx a 1/4" space at the spray end, I will usually run a QWISO instead or wait until I can get some more to do a BHO run.

If your running a turkey baster and consistantly need to run 7g's, maybe consider cutting your tube down a bit. A hose clamp should hold the coffee filters firmly enough.

Edit: Ooops, forgot your 1st question..... I save up 1st purged bho material and will run a QWISO for the 2nd run.
 
smokum,
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Sour Deez

Active Member
yea i was gonna go the turkey baster route. It only costs $7 and i already got plenty of hose clamps.

Im prob gonna buy 2 and leave one as is then cut one in half.
 
Sour Deez,
S

Spiderman

oil baron
eLiguL said:
Heres a link(Pg.86) for a guide to making BHO in an issue of Treating Yourself magazine.

If im lucky enough to come across some trim I may try this. :ninja:
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Great post eligul. Thanks for finding this old link, its a very handy and accurate guide to anyone wishing to learn or brush up on their extraction technique. Straight from HMK himself.
 
Spiderman,
eLiguL

eLiguL

Well-Known Member
Spiderman said:
eLiguL said:
Heres a link(Pg.86) for a guide to making BHO in an issue of Treating Yourself magazine.

If im lucky enough to come across some trim I may try this. :ninja:
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Great post eligul. Thanks for finding this old link, its a very handy and accurate guide to anyone wishing to learn or brush up on their extraction technique. Straight from HMK himself.
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LoL no need to thank me, I just reposted the link, thank Marco Renda for making the magazine! He posts with his name on ICMAG, I usually see him lurking in the Canadian section.

Here is a link to the glass extraction unit Kut uses, only $40 too for a 15g unit.

@Weedemon, I cant bring myself to use perfectly good buds to learn how to make BHO, ill only try this with trim on my first few attempts. With the Omicron on the way I think learning how to good/safe BHO will be high on my list.
 
eLiguL,
weedemon

weedemon

enthusiast
eLiguL said:
I cant bring myself to use perfectly good buds to learn how to make BHO, ill only try this with trim on my first few attempts. With the Omicron on the way I think learning how to good/safe BHO will be high on my list.
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ahh i can understand that man :) for my first QWISO run i used shake also! i know exactly what you mean :) once you have it down (and it's really really easy) you will have no fear about tossing your nugs inside :p

when i was reading this article i was gonna say it sounds a lot like HMK's instructions :p now i understand why! :D
 
weedemon,
gvape

gvape

Well-Known Member
I tend to feel that If I dont pack my tube full I get a worse outcome, not sure if this is true. I have also read to use organic cotton to take up some space... I tried this, will never do it again, my cotton was covered in oil and I felt like I just lost a bunch then actually making any up for using the cotton as a space saver.

I originally had an all glass extractor off of etsy, which fit 7-10g, just felt it was too long. Next I bought a Honey Bee, but what a HORRIBLE DECISION that was! Honey Bee is by far the worst extractor I have used out of the 5 I have tried. That just sits around in the cabinet now. My third purchase was a small extractor I got that holds 4.5g. Its perfect for doing small runs as I get about .6-.8g from first run. I tend to like a smaller extractor as I feel I get a better run when the material is actually packed in the tube without any spaces.

Maybe I should just invest in one of these and call it a day.... Perfect BHO every time :p

http://www.greenleafharvest.com/Tamisium-Butane-Oil-Extractor-TE-175-2-Oz_p_34.html
 
gvape,
gvape

gvape

Well-Known Member
LOL, complete joke... But then again Im sure its worth the investment..... Ponders the thought of buying one.
 
gvape,
stroh

stroh

errl enthusiast
so far i have had no problems in returning at least 18% (if the flowers are good quality) with my glass extractor, even underpacked. as long as you get it tight enough, you shouldn't have to worry about lower yields, though a smaller glass extractor that holds ~5gs would be nice.
 
stroh,
gvape

gvape

Well-Known Member
stroh said:
so far i have had no problems in returning at least 18% (if the flowers are good quality) with my glass extractor, even underpacked. as long as you get it tight enough, you shouldn't have to worry about lower yields, though a smaller glass extractor that holds ~5gs would be nice.
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Hmmm, you think it would be possible to get something worth while from about 1.75g, I just got a little bit of this one strain that Id love to mail some oil with, just didnt think I had enough to do it. I never packed such a little amount in to my extractor, thats why I ask.


ALSO just got my vacuum purger!!!! Hand Pump style for draining breaks. I cant wait to use this thing, I have a feeling its gonna really improve my oil :D
 
gvape,
stroh

stroh

errl enthusiast
i have actually ran a single nug on a few occasions when i wanted a few dabs of a particular strain, but did not have enough to do a full run. just squashed the nug down as hard as i could in my extractor, pushed it to the front flush with the screen, and did a "micro run" haha

as for how worthwhile this is, it all depends on what your interpretation of "worthwhile" is.

it will probably only yield about .2 or .3 of oil, but the batch will be extremely easy to purge due to the very small amount of butane needed. i think smaller runs are actually easier to get a really nice product from, though i usually don't run under 3 grams at a time, just to be economical with my butane usage. if i were to run an oz, i would actually prefer to do 4 1/4oz runs, that way if you screw something up, not all your oil is lost, and it is easier to dial in a good purge without under/over purging, though it is a bit more work.
 
stroh,
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