Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils

ru_frothi

Portable Vaporist
Excellent, say "Hi" to my money where you're by. I got the last of the Jamaican Lion high CBD wax the other day (40% THC, 40% CBD !!) along with some very nice ten dollar grams of The True OG hash at 47% on impulse buy.....shoulda got more of that for sure. It's still listed, if you're gong by you might want to put a few grams on hold?

OF

I bought 5 grams of the TrueOG bubble last time they had it. I still have 2 grams left.... :)

Whoa 16 a gram and 45 an 8th! To think I just got annoyed that things went from $9.50 to $10.50 a gram or from $240 up to $260 an oz at the place I frequent. Do you pay sales tax on top of that?

I have never tried a almost pure CBD strain. I like Indica dominate strains, somewhere like 70/30 Indica/Sativa.

Man stuff is expensive in Cali. I generally wont pay more than $45 per 1/8th here but there are places in SJ charging $70 1/8th + 15% tax for Girl Scout Cookies (NOT LAB TESTED)

gotta remember electricity in cali is the most expensive in the nation. top tier is almost $0.50 a kw/hr. that coupled with the cost of real estate causes the prices. colorado and washington benefit from the overall cheaper cost of living and can still produce excellent products...

Though I can get killer outdoor for less than 200 a Z from my favorite club in San Jose who has won 2 cannabis cup trophies versus NONE for the $70+ dollar place two blocks down the street. Who goes to these places?
 
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SD_haze

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I just noticed my standard Omicron V2 Charger emits a fairly audible buzzing sound when plugged into any outlet in my house. This normal, or cause for concern?

Thats without even any battery charging in it.
 
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OF

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Man stuff is expensive in Cali.

Though I can get killer outdoor for less than 200 a Z from my favorite club in San Jose who has won 2 cannabis cup trophies versus NONE for the $70+ dollar place two blocks down the street. Who goes to these places?

Outdoor (AKA 'sun grown') is generally lots cheaper. For instance:
https://www.stickyguide.com/dispens...r-san-jose/products/northern-lights-sun-grown

Maybe the answer to 'who goes to these places?' is "lots of folks like me"? Many of us put a premium on testing and the known safety, some will pay a bit more to get the special strain that interests them. I've never paid $70 for a 1/8, but last week I did pay an all time high (pun intended) of $60 for a nice 1/8 of Larry OG....I had to after G and company won with it. Came in a nice jar, too.
https://www.stickyguide.com/dispensaries/harborside-health-center-san-jose/products/larry-og--5

I think medical and recreational users might view it very differently sometimes too.

Capitalism is alive here, lots of choices. Lower quality herb is widely available, at lower prices with lower quality customers to hang with while buying. Been there, done that as the saying goes. And, of course, there's the black market. I think that part is cool, you get to 'vote with your wallet'.

I just noticed my standard Omicron V2 Charger emits a fairly audible buzzing sound when plugged into any outlet in my house. This normal, or cause for concern?

Thats without even any battery charging in it.

Fairly common, really. If you look inside such things you typically find wads of glue on parts known to do this, doesn't always work well. As long as it runs cool and isn't too loud I generally ignore such 'mains related switcher noise'.

OTOH, I'm sure THC will swap with you if you're not comfortable with it.

You do know why they hum, don't you? Because they don't know the words, of course....

OF
 
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sidewing

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Lol, there no such thing as a oil being too tasty. If anything it'd be more based on the viscosity of the substance , sativas being more runny and indicas being more stable.
maybe this is why my outdoor sour diesel always makes full melt bubble hash. i still have about an 8th from last years harvest, and another beast on her way this year (which i didnt even plant, thought the strain was lost, but it popped up thru the abyss by itself, i guess she dropped a seed for me and grew).. i got a clone of it this time.

i was thinking of making my own oil with SLX denatured alcohol instead of butane.. even though i already have all my new butane supplies on the way.. its supposed to be much cleaner/safer than a butane extract. anyone ever use this to make an extract? its supposed to melt much cleaner/faster than bho, i wonder if thatll create a problem with the ophos...

also THC SCIENTIFIC, is vaporwarehouse an authorized dealer for omicron/ophos? thats the only place that had the ophos black in stock, so i placed my order yesterday. wanted to be sure i would be covered under warranty.
 
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OF

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i was thinking of making my own oil with SLX denatured alcohol instead of butane.. even though i already have all my new butane supplies on the way.. its supposed to be much cleaner/safer than a butane extract.

Yes, Ethanol is a great solvent for this, I used it many years ago briefly. Butane wasn't used then, and Pet Ether scared me. As I understand it, ETOH has a different solvent profile that works well with other (non polar) solvents like Butane. Washing the product from one in the other leaves yet more junk behind and gives a cleaner product. You might consider that as well.

However, I'd advise a bit of caution with denatured ETOH. Consider what it is, alcohol intentionally poisoned to keep folks from drinking it. The very goal demands using a nasty poison that can't be easily removed. Using Methanol for this is probably easy enough to deal with, it should purge away with the ETOH, but that's no always the only agent used. "Methylated Spirits" are dangerous, on purpose.

I hate to sound like I wish the FDA was here protecting us, not that that's a bad thing.....I just am not keen on the folks they sometimes hang out with?

Best of luck with your experiments.

OF
 

kittyboy

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okay just found a 2.4 cart i didnt realize i had. So i am getting it ready to fill by doing the oxidation and notice when I push button it takes about 3 seconds to see red light and it is only in the center whole not on sides. I remeber when doin same to 1.4 carts I saw red on sides as well as center. Just wondering if that is the difference in power or if I might have a bad cart? thanks
 
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okay just found a 2.4 cart i didnt realize i had. So i am getting it ready to fill by doing the oxidation and notice when I push button it takes about 3 seconds to see red light and it is only in the center whole not on sides. I remeber when doin same to 1.4 carts I saw red on sides as well as center. Just wondering if that is the difference in power or if I might have a bad cart? thanks

It's perfectly normal.

While I'm not a fan of 'dry burns' in principle, IMO doing so with a hot rod like 1.5s at 3.7 Volts is unwise. You'll note guys say to prime 7.4 Volt carts at 3.7? IMO good advice. I use a meter to check (because I have one and know how, I'm not saying everyone should) and avoid 'oxidation' FWIW.

But the cart sounds good, I'd fill it before you burn it out?

Good luck.

OF
 

Bob Loblaw

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It's perfectly normal.

While I'm not a fan of 'dry burns' in principle, IMO doing so with a hot rod like 1.5s at 3.7 Volts is unwise. You'll note guys say to prime 7.4 Volt carts at 3.7? IMO good advice. I use a meter to check (because I have one and know how, I'm not saying everyone should) and avoid 'oxidation' FWIW.

But the cart sounds good, I'd fill it before you burn it out?

Good luck.

OF
always with the good advice ;)
 
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sidewing

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Yes, Ethanol is a great solvent for this, I used it many years ago briefly. Butane wasn't used then, and Pet Ether scared me. As I understand it, ETOH has a different solvent profile that works well with other (non polar) solvents like Butane. Washing the product from one in the other leaves yet more junk behind and gives a cleaner product. You might consider that as well.

However, I'd advise a bit of caution with denatured ETOH. Consider what it is, alcohol intentionally poisoned to keep folks from drinking it. The very goal demands using a nasty poison that can't be easily removed. Using Methanol for this is probably easy enough to deal with, it should purge away with the ETOH, but that's no always the only agent used. "Methylated Spirits" are dangerous, on purpose.

I hate to sound like I wish the FDA was here protecting us, not that that's a bad thing.....I just am not keen on the folks they sometimes hang out with?

Best of luck with your experiments.

OF
i researched more last night and came across that, and decided iso hash is going to be the best/safest bet.. so im going to be making a batch with 91% isopropyl today. (was going to order 99% but read that 91% works nearly as good, and it doesnt strip quite as much others, such as chlorophyl.)

but instead of air drying it, im going to boil the alcohol off some like rick simpson oil, gunna extract into a smaller pyrex bowl. and in a larger one below it, boil some water, and let it drop to 180 degrees then place the smaller one on top of it. (read that iso evaporates at 175-180 degrees) and put it on the back patio under the outdoor ceiling fan till it evaporates off, then put it in the oven for about 15mins at 220..

from what ive seen, if you only do like a 15-30 second shake in the mason jar with the alcohol you will get a very clean extract, very little chlorophyl.. and im gunna filter it thru 2 coffee filters for a more pure product.. this stuff should be melty enough to use in a omicron/ophos right?

heres exactly what ill be doing incase anyone wondering:

keep fresh material in freezer before use. at least 30mins
add material to mason jar,then fill with alcohol.
shake vigorously in mason jar with 91% isopropyl for 30secs
strain thru mesh strainer first, then strain liquid thru 2 coffee filters staCKED
into pyrex on top of another pyrex with water @ 180 degrees until alcohol boils off
(or leave out overnight til it evaporates)
put pyrex bowl for 10-15mins in oven @ 220
put in freezer for 1-2 hours
scrape together with razor blade into a pile in the middle
put in oven @ 170 for 3 mins to melt it together.
freeze 20mins to harden so itll be easier to scrape off pyrex
place in glass jar for storage.
 

kittyboy

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went to refill cart and wondering if oil is too thick. Won't go down the slots on side of fill tool. With heating and sticking hot needle and trying to push. Stuff is not glass more a goo nice clear gold color no leaf etc so wondring if way to make more fluid so it easier.

Thanks
 
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OF

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went to refill cart and wondering if oil is too thick. Won't go down the slots on side of fill tool. With heating and sticking hot needle and trying to push. Stuff is not glass more a goo nice clear gold color no leaf etc so wondring if way to make more fluid so it easier.

Thanks

You know, early on I got a gram of some recommended hash that looked good but wasn't 'supermelt' by any measure. One thing sure, if it doesn't flow freely it's never going to pass up the wick to the heater even if you somehow get it in.

What happens when you put a tiny bit on a piece of foil and heat it with your lighter? It should easily melt and flow then completely evaporate and leave nothing behind. The stuff I had didn't do that but it did just fine in my HA.

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kittyboy

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You know, early on I got a gram of some recommended hash that looked good but wasn't 'supermelt' by any measure. One thing sure, if it doesn't flow freely it's never going to pass up the wick to the heater even if you somehow get it in.

What happens when you put a tiny bit on a piece of foil and heat it with your lighter? It should easily melt and flow then completely evaporate and leave nothing behind. The stuff I had didn't do that but it did just fine in my HA.

OF
I never tried it o alluminum foil but i use a 90 degree titanium swing vape and shit does well on that.
leaves no residue etc. I just watch a Hammer video and guy in it refers to his sap. this is sap consitency.
will try heating some up on foil later and let u know thanks.

I was able to get some in first time and got nice hits off it but from looking at filler there is a coating that stays on side of filler and I am wondering if that coating is on sides of cart. When i reclaim i get about .3 out of it.

So from what i can see with hammer u touch oil with hammer vs just holding above to cause combustion?
Wondering how it would work on swing vape set up to not have to use torch. could u touch titanium from below to heat it up to red and then drop oil on it>?
 
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i researched more last night and came across that, and decided iso hash is going to be the best/safest bet.. so im going to be making a batch with 91% isopropyl today. (was going to order 99% but read that 91% works nearly as good, and it doesnt strip quite as much others, such as chlorophyl.)

but instead of air drying it, im going to boil the alcohol off some like rick simpson oil, gunna extract into a smaller pyrex bowl. and in a larger one below it, boil some water, and let it drop to 180 degrees then place the smaller one on top of it. (read that iso evaporates at 175-180 degrees) and put it on the back patio under the outdoor ceiling fan till it evaporates off, then put it in the oven for about 15mins at 220..

from what ive seen, if you only do like a 15-30 second shake in the mason jar with the alcohol you will get a very clean extract, very little chlorophyl.. and im gunna filter it thru 2 coffee filters for a more pure product.. this stuff should be melty enough to use in a omicron/ophos right?

heres exactly what ill be doing incase anyone wondering:

keep fresh material in freezer before use. at least 30mins
add material to mason jar,then fill with alcohol.
shake vigorously in mason jar with 91% isopropyl for 30secs
strain thru mesh strainer first, then strain liquid thru 2 coffee filters staCKED
into pyrex on top of another pyrex with water @ 180 degrees until alcohol boils off
(or leave out overnight til it evaporates)
put pyrex bowl for 10-15mins in oven @ 220
put in freezer for 1-2 hours
scrape together with razor blade into a pile in the middle
put in oven @ 170 for 3 mins to melt it together.
freeze 20mins to harden so itll be easier to scrape off pyrex
place in glass jar for storage.

I wonder if you used grain alcohol if it would be cleaner better since it is for consuming?
Or better yet some good ole moonshine?
 

OF

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I found the Cannatonic and Harlequin bud (no wax) here:
http://legalmarijuanadispensary.com/dispensaries/california/sherman-oaks/the-root-cellar#weedmenu

And this place is right down the street from me.

That's most cool. Now all you need to do is find your shoes and keys, 'hit the wall' for some bucks and make it over before closing time. Five hours and change. Time for a vape session before hand if you don't get distracted......

I hope you have a PD, MFLB or something similar to enjoy it in? While I really enjoy T1 for this kind of introduction, I really like Vapman in this role. How twisted is that?

Enjoy it BD, it's yours for the taking.....

OF
 
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Blue Dream

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That's most cool. Now all you need to do is find your shoes and keys, 'hit the wall' for some bucks and make it over before closing time. Five hours and change. Time for a vape session before hand if you don't get distracted......

I hope you have a PD, MFLB or something similar to enjoy it in? While I really enjoy T1 for this kind of introduction, I really like Vapman in this role. How twisted is that?

Enjoy it BD, it's yours for the taking.....

OF
They're fresh out of the Cannatonic, so I got the Harlequin. Can't stop hitting off of it. It's going to go fast.
 
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They're fresh out of the Cannatonic, so I got the Harlequin. Can't stop hitting off of it. It's going to go fast.

I know that one, it's an old fav of mine. I ration myself since it's gold sometimes when times are bad and I too noticed it does seem to evaporate on it's own once it's opened.....

Now that you know the CBD secret, be sure to keep it to yourself. There's only so much available you know......

Whatever you do, don't tell Bob or DR. Those guys can't keep a secret on a bet. I don't trust HAL either, come to think of it.

You know what the Birchers used to say, 'There's no one left but we and thee, and we're not sure of thee'.

OF
 

SD_haze

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Another electronics question here:

Is there any negative repercussions to leaving either the original long red batteries or the V2 short blue batteries in the charger way past when its finished its charge? (For example, falling asleep with it still charging)
 
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OF

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Another electronics question here:

Is there any negative repercussions to leaving either the original long red batteries or the V2 short blue batteries in the charger way past when its finished its charge? (For example, falling asleep with it still charging)

Should be OK, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. In theory the charger senses end of charge and backs off when the light changes, but it continues to put out a low charge current to do two functions, sense if there's a battery there to charge and (very importantly for us) put out a trickle charge current so protected batteries that might be installed (the ones so discharged they're in protect mode) can charge up enough to 'unlock', be recognized, and start charging. IMRs have to 'burn' that power, small as it is. They don't have a protect circuit to disconnect for them.

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Should be OK, but I wouldn't make a habit of it. In theory the charger senses end of charge and backs off when the light changes, but it continues to put out a low charge current to do two functions, sense if there's a battery there to charge and (very importantly for us) put out a trickle charge current so protected batteries that might be installed (the ones so discharged they're in protect mode) can charge up enough to 'unlock', be recognized, and start charging. IMRs have to 'burn' that power, small as it is. They don't have a protect circuit to disconnect for them.

OF
Sounds about right, when I was looking at the charger after waking up this morning, it was a solid green, but would flicker red for just a milisecond or so every now and then. Definitely will be more vigilant in the future.

I forgot to mention, specifically this was the blue 14250 V2 mini battery that was overcharged.

Also reporting in my 3+ month old pure kush wax cart (dark green buddery stuff) is still going strong and it seems to have plenty left in the tank :haw:
 
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I forgot to mention, specifically this was the blue 14250 V2 mini battery that was overcharged.

Also reporting in my 3+ month old pure kush wax cart (dark green buddery stuff) is still going strong and it seems to have plenty left in the tank :haw:

I assumed that's the one's you meant. AFAIK it's the only blue one THC has used? Like TV uses the same sort of IMR 10440s Those little guys aren't all that popular I guess, which makes sense to me. The little guys are generally at more risk, of course.

Yeah, ain't it cool? A gram can last a very long time if you're not always hitting it. Goes a long time even then.

OF
 
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sidewing

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I wonder if you used grain alcohol if it would be cleaner better since it is for consuming?
Or better yet some good ole moonshine?
not sure, i think there is more residual in that than in isopropyl.. its just isopropyl and water (the 9%) nothing else.. all of the alcohol is supposed to evaporate leaving absolutely no residual when done right.. im not so sure butane can accomplish this.. even if the residuals are so small that it probably doesnt matter in butane when done right..

i ran about 3-4 oz (didnt weigh all of it) and some low grade bubble hash that i had been collecting in the freezer.. it looks very clean in the alcohol, a beautiful amber color. and after sitting in the sun its turning more reddish like iced tea. i decided to just boil the water im putting in the lower pyrex bowl, seems to do fine for the extract in the upper bowl. not sure how much ill get, but i expect it to be really really good. im hoping for a half oz. anything more than that is just a blessing. but i ran it though a paper coffee filter, and also a metal screen coffee filter.. so its been double filtered, and i only shook the jars for 30 seconds.

its evaporating really slowly even over the boiling water. i have it sitting outside in the sun with a screen over the top to keep things from floating into it. hoping by tomorrow morning/afternoon she will be ready to bring it, and do step two in the oven, then freeze, scrape, melt, then jar it. my ophos should be here by wednesday at the latest, so itll be perfect timing. i just gotta figure out how to load a cartridge once it gets here.
 
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kindbeats

Terps Up, Temps Down
Alright guys it has been confirmed.


Stainless steel ejuice tanks are in production.

Tank kit will include the following.

1 SS Tank.
1 1.5 ohm Ce2 Carto
1 3.0 ohm Ce2 Carto
1 5.0 ohm Ce2 Carto
1 Set of extra orings.

Also extra Ce2's in 1.5, 3.0, and 5.0 ohm cartos will be available.

G, are these the dual use tanks that you were speaking of? Also, any updates on the long awaited Nail Cart?
 
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jambandphan03

in flavor country
2 days at OCF and Omicron mini for the win! Very pocket friendly, works great w/ the v2.5 top, and ended up saving me when I grabbed the wrong power source for my other portable vape today. I used the lock feature when it was in my pocket. :tup:
 

sidewing

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got this iso extract on the rice cooker, its evaporating full speed now! lol wish my ophos was here tomorrow.. maybe ill get lucky and have a tuesday delivery.
 
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