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Vaporizer "up high" best way to get it or is it even possible?

Triple S

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I have been vaping for a while now in a volcano and it is mostly head high no matter what type of weed. However whenever I vap I don't feel energetic and that is what I like I don't like to feel lazy. Also I know that indica is "couch lock" and sativa is "up high." However no matter what type of weed I put in there I usually get the same high whether it is indica or sativa anyone else like this?
 
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pakalolo

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What temperatures are you using? Low temperatures are better for achieving the effects you want. I start at 160C and go up to 180 or sometimes 190, rarely higher. Of course, using sativas helps.
 
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Triple S

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I usually always do 190 Celsius (374 Fahrenheit) which is dial 6 on the classic volcano. Should I be vaping a sativa strain or any other strain lower then that to achieve that "up high."
 
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pakalolo

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Triple S said:
I usually always do 190 Celsius (374 Fahrenheit) which is dial 6 on the classic volcano. Should I be vaping a sativa strain or any other strain lower then that to achieve that "up high."

I think so. Try starting at 160. The vapour will be thinner but tastier. Bump it 5 or 10 degrees at a time until you find what you like. 190 is definitely edging towards heavier couch-lock effects.
 
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Triple S

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alright I will give that a try should I turn up the temperature after every bag or leave it the same.
 
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weedemon

enthusiast
I dial my temp up a bit after every bag, but by hitting higher temps you are also vapin the cbd and cbn that gives you the lazy stone.
 
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Triple S

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True say I guess I will just experiment a bit and see what best fits my needs on the lower temps.
 
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crawdad

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i have found that as long as the strain is potent, it matters not much whether indica vs sativa for me...temperature (hotter = more body, cooler = more mind) and setting are the keys for me.

ive found that if i want to be energetic (not something i strive for too much to be honest) then i have to limit myself to very small cool hits, anything too hot or too many cool hits and i want to just chill...which for me is nice, but something to keep in mind if i got shit to do.
 
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Triple S

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I just vaped on about 331F (dial 4 on classic volcano) and I got a nice up high with a sativa dominant strain (ak47).
 
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Get a Magic Flight Launch box. It is a steady 370F and you can control with your inhale. I've found it very effective in releasing the various properties of Sativa, Indica and hybrids. Plus, it's super stealth, clean and you can take it anywhere :D
 
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Nosferatu

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Also remember there are other factors at play like your sleep, health, diet, tolerance, etc.. that will affect your high. I used to have a problem where vaping would get me very tired, any strain, any temp. I realized it was just my eating habbits and after changing them I slowly got to the point where I always have extra energy to alot to mj toking. Which we must be honest here, it can be kind of taxing on your body temporarily. Make sure to eat healthy meals and especially breakfasts if your going to be vaping all day, also drink alot of water and work out because if your lungs get even a little 'dirty' it will affect your energy.
 
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vape4life

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I think it's all been said pretty much. Personally I notice if I vape too much too often then I get that tired feeling, and not even euphoric or high feeling. Take a break, get back to it, sativa (whatever temp for me) and I get that sweet ass euphoria again where i'm stoked to do anything!

Another big thing is how tired you already feel...if you've sleep well, and it's day time and you're well rested and have the proper mindset, you're more likely to get that up high you're looking for. If it's late night, and you're bagged, well...guess what's gonna happen.

Tolerance breaks have to become part of my life...otherwise, vaping is just not as enjoyable for me personally. Fucking moderation in everything it seems is best... binges are SO easy to fall into.
 

VaporNation

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Too high of temperature when using a vape can cause the fatigued feeling as carcinogens and other bad toxins generate the fatigued-like feeling.
 
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pakalolo

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Get a Magic Flight Launch box. It is a steady 370F and you can control with your inhale. I've found it very effective in releasing the various properties of Sativa, Indica and hybrids. Plus, it's super stealth, clean and you can take it anywhere :D

I should have kept an eye on this thread. This information isn't correct; the MFLB is not a fixed temperature device. It can reach combustion, as several people have lamented in the MFLB thread.

Too high of temperature when using a vape can cause the fatigued feeling as carcinogens and other bad toxins generate the fatigued-like feeling.

I believe this is also misinformation. I've spent a lot of time tracking down peer-reviewed papers that discuss the potential toxins in vapour, and the evidence for carcinogens and toxins is sketchy at best. If you have a source that supports your assertion, I'd like to see it--and please don't refer me to that damned press release about the Gieringer study, or the Gieringer study itself for that matter: Cannabis "Vaporization": A Promising Strategy for Smoke Harm Reduction (Gieringer, Dale H. Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics Vol 1. No. 3/4, 2001, pp 153-170). Gieringer himself contradicted that study in a later study done with some colleagues: Cannabis Vaporizer Combines Efficient Delivery of THC with Effective Suppression of Pyrolytic Compounds (Gieringer, D., St. Laurent, J., and Goodrich, S. Journal of Cannabis Therapeutics, Vol. 4(1) 2004).

If, as I suspect, you don't have solid evidence to back that up, please don't continue to spread bad information.
 

sektr

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A lot of people say it's more dependant on strain, I feel that it's more your mindstate and the amount you smoke.

I can take half a trench of my MFLB of any strain and have plenty of energy to do whatever, but if I do a little more than a full one and I don't move for 20 minutes chances are I'm not moving til I'm sober.

However if I'm out with friends and do more than a full one I'm perfectly up for an adventure.
 

kushcabbage

vapor nerd
recently dug up my volcano, thanks for the info. I never really set it at anything but right under 6 since I think i've had it!
 
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OF

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Too high of temperature when using a vape can cause the fatigued feeling as carcinogens and other bad toxins generate the fatigued-like feeling.


"Carcinogens"? Can you name them please.

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nucleo

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If you are using a volcano i hope you aren't doing what most people do and fill the chamber.
Remember that unless it's bagseed weed, you don't need to put more than enough to cover the mesh.
 
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Nosferatu

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Too high of temperature when using a vape can cause the fatigued feeling as carcinogens and other bad toxins generate the fatigued-like feeling.

I disagree as well, this is how it may seem but it's not how it works. Personally smoking is the most up high I can get. I only vape when I'm alone at night or want something different. The whole temp thing is bogus in my opinion, no real science has been done on this. Besides for me and a few others lower temps get us more spacy and tired, and higher temps a more BAM in your face up high.
 
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drumwizard

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If you are using a volcano i hope you aren't doing what most people do and fill the chamber.
Remember that unless it's bagseed weed, you don't need to put more than enough to cover the mesh.

I've tried using less and putting the liquid pad on top but it's never quite the same. The vapor isn't as dense and I get less total bags no matter what strain I'm using.

Here is what I did when I was in a similar situation with my Volcano...

As your vape session goes on and on, you will notice when you're starting to get less vapor and the product is depleted. Eventually you begin to notice how many total bags you're getting per session (which can vary depending on quality, etc..). So what I did and still do when I use my Volcano is PURPOSELY STOP the session a little short so that I have a few bags left. I dump the remaining contents into a jar for storage. After so much time, you'll acquire a nice full jar of brown "re-vape" or "popcorn" as some like to call it. Then when I want to just get a mild high, I simply open the jar, re-grind it, and start vaping at a slightly higher temp than when I stopped the fresh stuff.

Example:
-pack a Volcano chamber full with OG Kush
-vape bag 1 at 362 F, vape bag 2 at 365 F, vape bag 3 at 370 F
-Feeling nicely medicated and sensing that I have about 3-4 bags left so I stop my vapor session and dump contents into the "popcorn" or "re-vape" jar.
-5 days later I'm looking to get some things done around the house but don't want to be couch locked...go find the jar
-Grind up your "popcorn" nice and fine and start bag 1 at 372 F, vape bag 2 at 375 F, vape bag 3 at 377 F, vape bag 4 at 379 F.

This method has worked for years now considering the Volcano was my only vape and method of medicating for a long time. I tend to think of it as a 3 tier system...a 3 would be vaping the POPCORN as mentioned above, a 2 would be vaping enough FRESH stuff that I'm feeling good and still have some vapor left for the popcorn jar (this is my usual method), and a 1 would be an all out FRESH vape until there is nothing left session.

Sorry if this is sloppy or if I confused you at all but I hope it helps your situation.
 
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