Davinci by Karma

xivyx420

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When I clean mine I damped a shred of cotton with water and wipe it out using the opposite end of the brush it came with. It seems to do the trick for me, and there are no chemicals left over that you would have to worry about inhaling... I hope this helps you guys. :)
 
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J.R.R.Tokin'

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ISO evaps very quickly. If your just lightly swabbing I recommend doing a 1 minute burn off at 375f to get rid of the ISO vapors. I just let mine air dry and find it's done in around a minute ime (99% ISO just damp swab).

The cotton will take longer to evap and I'd recommend leaving that to air dry for at least 30 mins - 1 hr. You can put on top of an electrical device (hard drive/tv/set top box etc.) over the vents to speed up the process.
 
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pandawok56

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I have vaped in a crowded theater with it and no one was the wiser. Made the movie a lot more enjoyable :)
My only concern is the batteries and replacing them once they go bad. That may have been addressed in these discussions, but like I said there is a lot on here and reading 27 pages so far is a lot!
Just read your post and would like to say welcome :) I also wanted to ask that smell wasn't a problem? I've used my unit in public many, many times but whenever I'm in an enclosed area like say the bus, in school or at the cinema, there's always a heavy bud smell (not the infamous rubber/tire/plastic/paint etc smell) usually causing me to have to stop before I even begin. I don't think anyone else has brought this up, but is this a problem for anyone else? I personally have a terrible sense of smell and can usually only smell it if when the unit is right under my nose, but my friends say it very strong, stronger than my iolite used to smell, which was more of a "stink up the room" thing, not a "stink up the hole A-wing at school" that I get with the DV.
 
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Just read your post and would like to say welcome :) I also wanted to ask that smell wasn't a problem? I've used my unit in public many, many times but whenever I'm in an enclosed area like say the bus, in school or at the cinema, there's always a heavy bud smell (not the infamous rubber/tire/plastic/paint etc smell) usually causing me to have to stop before I even begin. I don't think anyone else has brought this up, but is this a problem for anyone else? I personally have a terrible sense of smell and can usually only smell it if when the unit is right under my nose, but my friends say it very strong, stronger than my iolite used to smell, which was more of a "stink up the room" thing, not a "stink up the hole A-wing at school" that I get with the DV.

Not at all. I vape about 365 degrees, do you vape higher? I have read that the higher it goes the more you can smell it. I have a pretty strong sense of smell, and I have never smelled anyone using it when we are passing it around. We have vaped around people that don't smoke at all (the theater, other friends,etc) and they all couldn't smell it. Maybe it's the Vegas polluted air and we are all used to it (all kidding aside), but have never had any issues...
 
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mephisto

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....the aroma, the general area around the vape. I used loud to express the degree of
aroma....It performs just fine, no issues there. For my use, the Davinci is super stealth
and effective. It is the byproduct of its use that is less than stealthy. If one empties the
cauldron right after use, I imagine this would eliminate a lot of the odor.
 
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Drastic

Vape4Life
Whoever started the "vapor does not smell" was full of shit, vapor may not smell like combustion, but it sure does smell a lot more like pure weed!
 
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xivyx420

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I don't know then, maybe we just can't smell over here. Who knows. It smells significantly less then, and maybe other smells over power it wherever I am.
 
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Smelly or not, I think we all agree the Davinci does the trick....

I totally agree! My davinci absolutely does its' job! the walkietalkie look makes it super discreet! it's amazing draws I get from mine instantly get me lifted! Not to mention the handy little compartment to stash your blend and the brush that come in your unit make it super easy to carry around with out needing a ton of accessories around also to properly care for your Davinci. I also love how long my battery lasts. when I'm out running errons or dealing with classes its's always ready! My battery lasts usually a few hours if I'm not using it continuously. The other luxury thing about the Davinci is being able to control the temp. and the display window for the battery so I'm never wondering what level my battery is at.
 
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kertong

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well, i'about 90% of the way there on pulling the trigger on a davinci.

i read every dang page and have one unanswered question:

i've read some saying the vapor can be pretty hot, due to the short distance. i don't plan on using the snorkel, so...

at 375F, how hot is the vapor as you inhale it? i know thats hard to quantify online, so let me say that i find the arizer solo at 4 is pretty mild. is the davinci hotter on the mouth/lungs,or are they pretty comparable?

thanks folks!
 
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vorrange

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I totally agree! My davinci absolutely does its' job! the walkietalkie look makes it super discreet! it's amazing draws I get from mine instantly get me lifted! Not to mention the handy little compartment to stash your blend and the brush that come in your unit make it super easy to carry around with out needing a ton of accessories around also to properly care for your Davinci. I also love how long my battery lasts. when I'm out running errons or dealing with classes its's always ready! My battery lasts usually a few hours if I'm not using it continuously. The other luxury thing about the Davinci is being able to control the temp. and the display window for the battery so I'm never wondering what level my battery is at.

Don't you find that if you leave the half bowl to vape later, it will keep extracting with conduction if the temp is too hot and when you return to it, most of it is vaped?

I can't be sure about this but i find it is what happened both times i left an unfinished bowl to complete later. Because of this, the temptation of finishing the bowl is bigger, and i end up rising my daily usage. :D

well, i'about 90% of the way there on pulling the trigger on a davinci.

i read every dang page and have one unanswered question:

i've read some saying the vapor can be pretty hot, due to the short distance. i don't plan on using the snorkel, so...

at 375F, how hot is the vapor as you inhale it? i know thats hard to quantify online, so let me say that i find the arizer solo at 4 is pretty mild. is the davinci hotter on the mouth/lungs,or are they pretty comparable?

thanks folks!

Kertong, i don't own the solo but i think the small airpath may end up being a problem for you because of the issue you were having before. I must say though, that there are two metal screens with a fine mesh before the actual straw, so there are no particulates flying to your airways.

Maybe try one first, if you get the chance. It is also quite easy to pair it with a bong, with a bit of silicon tubing like the one from the DBV. (14.4mm diffuser)
 
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I would agree it is very hard to draw on the regular Solo stem. The excess force required could cause issues/stress on your lungs. If you do get a solo I would reccoment the PlanetVape.ca PVHES (Planet Vape High Effecincy Stem) it has much better air flow. In general though I like everything about my DaVinci more then the Solo. I find the vapor is easier to hit, and taste better. I also don't use my Solo outside of the house so it is not portable to me... I don't like the glass stems. I am way to worried about being hassled because the cops think it is a crack pipe.

I would say this is a good option for your needs.
 
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vorrange

Vapor.wise
The davinci is a conduction vape not convection. If you load it with material and turn the unit on at default temp 375F and let it sit until auto shut-off it will cash the fresh load baking it to a goldern brown ABV. All this with out a single draw. It may have been designed to be a convection vape but it is not.

I know exactly what you are saying, in fact i said that in other words in my last post. But calling it conduction because it cooks the herbs if you leave it with the heater on is a little too simple don't you agree?

I believe it does have some conduction ocurring and if no air is drawn it can cook the herbs, but that is more due to the small bowl size and good heat retention in the chamber. A different design maybe with less contact with the sides of the chamber could possibly diminish that problem but how would you do that exactly? It is not easy to have a vaporizer this small, not have the problem you mention..
 
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pandawok56

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Just thought I'd throw this out there, I usually wait until it cools down to about 210F and under to re-pack it after use.

Also I believe that it isn't very moot at all. Sure you can have a little bit of both, but I feel that saying the DV is conduction and NOT convection is stupid. The iolite is conduction. Heats up the chamber, you hit it, wait for the chamber to heat up again, hit, rinse and repeat. Same with the MFLB. With the DV and other convection vapes, the hot air allows you the ability to hit over and over again without the waiting part. The only reason there's conduction is because like vorrange said, the small size and heat retention and the obvious reason, metal conducts heat. Anybody correct me if I'm wrong or not making sense. I haven't had any sleep in a while
 
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@Kertong, I run my Davinci at 375 consistently and I would compare that level of
perceived heat as comparable to a 4 or 5 setting on my M102 Solo. The vapor path
is a thinner diameter which may "focus" the heat a little more. However, the Davinci
does not give me any heat/throat sensation that would indicate heat irritation. The
issue you may find is that the Davinci delivers vapor in a smooth fashion as to mislead
you how much was inhaled. Thus resulting in a quickly expended hit.....It is more of
a hitter, than a sipper. For ease of draw, much less resistance than either a 2-hole or
a 4-hole solo stem. Hope this helps you find a proper vape for your needs....
 
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kertong

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well, good news to report, FC, as expected, did not let me down!

iloveb00bs and i went up to a local headshop a few towns over today, and i picked p a da vinci there after tons of fc browsing, and some awesome one on one advice from JRR Tokin (thanks mate, your advice was on the dot).

I'm enjoying the davinci at 380-390 now and vorrange - thak you for remembering :) my dry lung issues are why i looked into a portable like the solo. my main vape was the lsv through water, but due to the fast draw, the air:vapor ratio is way too high and ithink that is what dries me out. small puffs of dense vapor seems to be easiest on my breathing system, and the solo and davinci have that down pat.

i also happen to have a solo on hand (on loan from iloveb00bs, kneecaps signed as collateral), and the one thing i do miss is being able to see and measure the vapor thickness through the glass and being able to adjust the draw speed accordingly. for the davinci, do you guys prefer to pull pretty fast, or more slow like an mflb?

i do love that there is no draw restriction, virtually zero drag and effortless to pull, unlike the solo.

mine does smell a bit like plastic/new car smell, but it seems to be dissipating pretty quickly. the vapor between the solo and dbv are quite close in taste, quality/thickness, density, and heat..

so far, i love this thing. batt life is better than i expected, went through 3 bowls and i'm at 2/4 bars. getting nice dark brown, very very uniform abv even without stirring/shaking, very high end performance imo. no charred edges, no green cold spots, etc. bravo, karma!

god, i love FC. genuine thanks of appreciation and gratitude, all! now that i have my davinci with its storage comparment, i am allnset for hempcon sj this weekend! :D
 

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I am pleased you like it. I love mine. It is in my front shirt pocket right now. I am on my phone so forgive any spelling. I like to hit mine medium speed, sometimes fast but not often. I start at 375. I usually get 1 primer and three visual vapor draws. Then I move up to 385. I usually get another 3 hits. Then I turn it up to 396 and get 4 hits. The last 2 are kind of ABV tasting. The ABV comes out rather even and chocolate brown in color. I find at 390+ Ferinheight. with a long medium draw, I can get quite visible vapor.

Two tips:

I like to dump my bowl right after I turn off the unit. I can tap the flowers out easier while the unit is hot. When it cools I have to use a poker of some kind.

Be really proactive in cleaning. I clean mine every other time I get home from using it while I am out. I find keeping your unit clean helps make clearing and re-loading the unit while you are out and about. It also keeps the odor down ALLOT.

Anyway enough typing with my thumbs. Hope you keep enjoying your DaVinci.
 
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zomger

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Just got my Davinci today and I love it! Ran a burn through twice and when I tried it there were no foreign tastes, very smooth to hit and easy to use!

My one question is for people that have tried to use the oil cans for flower... I want to try this but it sounds like your guys herb was just wasted... So, before I do, my question is when you tried this, did you leave off the top piece so it was opened up more? If not, maybe that's where ya went wrong?
 
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Tim

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Been using the DV for a few weeks now, and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed in the user experience.

Don't get me wrong, it hits like a champ and works as advertised. However, the heat issue and high-maintenance level of cleaning required to keep the unit running at optimal levels is too much. It makes the DV less-than-enjoyable to use.

It's a terrible on-the-go vape. Sure, if your commute entails large coat pockets and gloves, then the DV may be right up your alley. However, the heat makes the DV impossible to pocket (pants) between hits, or even immediately after shutting off the device. You literally have to let it cool down.

I have to warn friends when passing the device because a few of them have nearly dropped the device due to the temperature. The DV is a strong hitter, but its glaring flaws are unforgivable.

If I wasn't clear before, it gets REALLY hot. Vape a bowl and then try to wrap your hand around the device for 10 full seconds. I dare you (no, don't do it. You will burn yourself).
 
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Vape a bowl and then try to wrap your hand around the device for 10 full seconds. I dare you (no, don't do it. You will burn yourself).

I don't have much of an issue holding mine during or after use. I feel like it gets less hot then the ThermoVape can get. I have turned it off and put it directly in my shirt pocket after turning it up to about 420 and using it for 5 minutes. It was warm but I did not find it painful at all. I used to blow glass though... so I might not be a good basis for what feels hot. I have never found my unit painful to use because of the heat though.

Maybe you have a unit that runs hotter. I will do some testing with mine tonight. I will turn it up to about 430 and leave it sitting for 5 minutes. I will take some temperature readings around the outside of the device and report back here.
 
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Been using the DV for a few weeks now, and I have to say that I'm pretty disappointed in the user experience.

Don't get me wrong, it hits like a champ and works as advertised. However, the heat issue and high-maintenance level of cleaning required to keep the unit running at optimal levels is too much. It makes the DV less-than-enjoyable to use.

It's a terrible on-the-go vape. Sure, if your commute entails large coat pockets and gloves, then the DV may be right up your alley. However, the heat makes the DV impossible to pocket (pants) between hits, or even immediately after shutting off the device. You literally have to let it cool down.

I have to warn friends when passing the device because a few of them have nearly dropped the device due to the temperature. The DV is a strong hitter, but its glaring flaws are unforgivable.

If I wasn't clear before, it gets REALLY hot. Vape a bowl and then try to wrap your hand around the device for 10 full seconds. I dare you (no, don't do it. You will burn yourself).

I have panted my DaVinci but i usually jacket it, and i had no issue either with the size or the heat. If you can medicate than you can wait 10seconds before you put it in your pocket.. the temps go down quick.

I get what you are saying Tim, i just think you are blowing this out of proportions and sending the wrong message. I think there are issues that can be resolved or its impact diminished, but i don't believe there are glaring flaws.

And in fact, the DV has taken the place of my usual portable and home vape right now. I still use the others but i find the DV gets me thoroughly medicated without much hassle so i just go for it instead of the ritual of setting everything up.
 
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Tim

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In retrospect, my words were a little harsh. It's still a great vape (I'm warming it up right now), and it's still my daily driver.
 

vorrange

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In retrospect, my words were a little harsh. It's still a great vape (I'm warming it up right now), and it's still my daily driver.

With the LB and the EQ, you have a similar setup to mine. Where does the NO2 stand in your usage right now? Its characteristics, except for size, are similar to the Davinci.
 
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