The Extreme-Q Vaporizer

damienm420 said:

Hey everyone, just curious, me and my friend have both been vaping awhile, and decided to try a bag with the eq. No matter what we did, after every hit, no matter how big, it was just horribly harsh. Any input as to why? We tried attaching a 6 ft whip to the bag and then putting the whip through his 2 ft single perc bong, and it was still harsh.

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It could be fan speed, temp, strain.... What settings were you using?

Stu said:

It could be fan speed, temp, strain.... What settings were you using?

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Fan speed 3, temp: 380-420, and some reggy. But in my Arizer solo, no harshness, same bud. As soon as we switch to the whip for the eq, went all the way to 470, no harshness. Especially not like the bag, that was just horrible..

damienm420 said:

Fan speed 3, temp: 380-420, and some reggy. But in my Arizer solo, no harshness, same bud. As soon as we switch to the whip for the eq, went all the way to 470, no harshness. Especially not like the bag, that was just horrible..

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Used bags, maybe? I hate bags because they start to taste awful after three or four uses. There's a lot of surface area for vapour to condense on and the longer the vapour is in the bag, the more it condenses. Aside from causing a foul taste, this condensate is also difficult to harvest, which is a shame because it's good stuff.

Anyone tried bubbling vapor thru vodka to brew a nice, heady cocktail of thc dissolved in vodka? Because if you just closed the top of the bong and let the fan rip, all the thc should dissolve into the vodka and leave it seriously loaded, right? Am planning to try this weekend, just wanted to check if it tastes foul/ gives a bad headache/ some such bummer.

I don't know if this has ever been touched on but I think there is a relatively big difference in cyclone bowls/elbows through out the generation of the EQ's existence.

I had obtained a EQ around 2010- The cyclone bowls that originally came with it are just a bit shorter and sit a bit lower on the heater creating a closer distance between the heater and the mid section of the cyclone bowl- as oppose to the newer Eq cyclone bowls which I've just obtained. This one seems to have a sort of bottled neck effect on both sides of the cyclone piece and sits a bit higher on the heater- I don't know if its the new OEM version or not - would love to know.

I've also obtained a new whip - The Elbow maybe the same because its like one of the glass elbows I've had from my previous set - But the other elbow I have (not sure if from the mini whip or reg. whip) is also different and for sure this one sits lower in the cyclone bowl as well !! By a alarming distance imo (BIG++)

I've noticed the EQ can be quite "finky" - I am at times disappointed with how it's performing - Other times I am completely amazed at how well its performing and wouldn't really even think about getting another vape - I am still mastering a consistent quality of performance with the eq - I am pretty good but at times get caught up in past mistakes-

Allot of people have mods for the EQ - One thing I feel is essential for getting the quality results I expect in a home vape from the eq is taking the dome screen and sort of rounding it out completely so its more of a round dome instead of a right angled flat surface circle. I don't know why - but this works in getting quality thick vapor hassle free every time for me. I've noticed just about every time when I don't have the screen set up like the dome and I don't have the low riding cyclone bowl/elbow- The quality of my vapor experience with the EQ suffers dramatically.

I somehow lost the o rings that come with the glass end piece. I was wondering do you guys know of any good substitute or places (like a hardware store) I can get some o rings on something like it..

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just take youre glass bag piece to a plumbing store or diy place and find an oring that slips loosely over the bag piece.a loose fitting o ring will allow you to connect the bag easily.any store that has plumbing orings for tapware will sort you out.In the meantime to get you going you can use an elastic band to hold the bag on

So I got me a volcano bag valve coming from a nice member from FC like this one.


I'm looking to use this sucker for a vertical lift off with an 18mm hose adapter like this one.


the outside of the hose adapter is 10mm or so.has anyone coupled their eq to a Volcano fill valve successfully.I might need a piece of hose on there to mate it to the valve.have some of these bags below waiting to use with the eq/volcano ev combo.


I'm successfully filling bags vertically with my EQ and have been for months now.I use a silicone covered tuffbowl,otherwise the hot cyclone bowl burns a hole in the bag if it comes in contact with it as its filling.I fill bags and fit a drinks bottle valve onto the standard eq bag piece but I have to put the drinks bottle valve on after Ive filled the bag so its a little fiddly.I want to be able to fill it with the easy valve in place and just lift it off and pass around during a friday poker sesh.

I will post after the parts arrive and I figure it all out.

MASSroll said:

. . . I came here because I yearn for knowledge of vaping that GC cant really offer . . .

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Welcome to FC. I'm sure you will find that there is no better source for vaporizing info than this community. While your first interest is re the Q, you might be surprised how many other topics relate, so browsing thru the contents can be a revelation. The search feature can be helpful, too. And then of course there is this thread - while it is very long, IMO it is worth (slowly) working your way thru it as there is so much useful Q info, suggestions, mods, problems solved, etc.

Again, glad to have you on board. Now . . . enjoy that Q!

mumbaihead12 said:

Anyone tried bubbling vapor thru vodka to brew a nice, heady cocktail of thc dissolved in vodka? Because if you just closed the top of the bong and let the fan rip, all the thc should dissolve into the vodka and leave it seriously loaded, right? Am planning to try this weekend, just wanted to check if it tastes foul/ gives a bad headache/ some such bummer.

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You plan to use the fan to force vapor from the Cyclone into a bong which you will seal the top off? If I understand correctly, I think you may have some issues . . .

The Q's fan is not powerful enough to push vapor thru liquid. (You would need a pump equipped unit like the HA or Oracle, or equivalent.) What will happen is that you will create back pressure into the Q, forcing the fan to work harder. I'm not sure where the vapor will exit, or how much vapor will even be produced with the flow blocked this way. Not a good idea.

Or are you thinking that the vapor will just combine with the vodka leaving only a liquid? In other words, you would be creating a tincture of sorts (except with the intention of drinking the mix)? While it's true that THC molecules will bind with the alcohol in the vodka, that will not happen with the water in the vodka (which, if the vodka is 80 Proof, then the water is 60% of the volume). I've not tried this so I would only be speculating about results. But I do suspect you will lose a considerable amount of the actives; this could be an expensive experiment with the benefits primarily off the vodka not the herb (assuming you get around the fan issue above).

Just my

If you give it a try, please do report back with the results.

Hi, I have never used a vaporizer before, but I have read a lot about the Extreme-Q, including much of this thread. One thing I was wondering (and I'm sure the answers will vary), how many hits from the Extreme-Q equal one bong rip, in terms of how stoned you get? Would like to hear a few opinions on this including the difference between elbow packs and cyclone bowls. Thanks, and love the forum.

whoop.

my EQ comes tomorrow... along with a quarter of Blue Dream.

been nice knowing you...

I went away to bonnaroo and when i got back my girlfriend reported that our arizer EQ gave her a headache and smelled weird.
I turned it on a few moments ago and let it heat up to 200C, it smells weird, almost like paint or plastic, perhaps. I'm afraid to try it, having left it on for a good 30 mins, it still smells like this.
Anyone know anything about this? I've only had it for a month or so, got it on Amazon.

Hey not sure if this was already covered, did a quick search but can anyone comment on what's new with the 2012 model extreme q? I see that it is now anno'd black but other than that? On the website they say the new model has 27 upgrades however they never mention if that since the 2011 model or since the EQ 3.0 which is much further back. Any comments on what is confirmed new for 2012? Just wondering if it's worth buying a new one vs used.

The only 2 differences that I can tell are the darker finish, and the 1 degree temp adjustments instead of the old 5 degree adjustments. Basically they are the same damn thing tbh.

These 27 upgrades were for Extreme -> Extreme Q. Not the 2012 upgrade.

And why did they do that? I love the 5 °C differences. It's perfect for the EQ. The EQ is not that precise either. I would hate to change the temp only by 1 °C. Glass upgrade could be better.

Also anyone who has the TV volume syndrome must love these 5 °C changes.

Seek said:

Also anyone who has the TV volume syndrome must love these 5 °C changes.

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Guilty!

highasakite said:

. . . how many hits from the Extreme-Q equal one bong rip, in terms of how stoned you get? Would like to hear a few opinions on this including the difference between elbow packs and cyclone bowls . . .

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I'm not sure how to answer this question. Depending on your setup and your lungs and your bong, you can conceivably get as big a hit. The most significant difference will not be due to Q vs bong, but rather from vaporizing vs combustion. With combustion the canniboids are converted to gas instantly along with the creation of gases (like benzenes) and particulates (like ash) that are a by-product of pyrolysis. So you receive all the effects of the plant at once, plus a bunch of unwanted stuff - and some of the bad stuff itself actually affects what you feel. With vaporizing, whichever canniboids are converted is a function of temperature, so for example at a low temp you will get mostly THC and less CBD's while at a very high temp you'll get all of the canniboids but without the by-products. For this reason some new users start vaping at a high temp so that the experience is most similar to combustion. But I think there is a consensus that it's better to start at a lower temp and work your way up, to find your own personal "sweet spot". Whatever that is, there will be residual canniboids remaining in the ABV; that should be kept for future use (there are various good ways to use the ABV).

As far as the Cyclone vs elbow pack, there are many posts in this thread discussing that. The easiest answer is probably that with the pack you just get greater concentration in exchange for more drag. The Q is very versatile. Take your time and try out all the possibilities.

mplives said:

I went away to bonnaroo and when i got back my girlfriend reported that our arizer EQ gave her a headache and smelled weird.
I turned it on a few moments ago and let it heat up to 200C, it smells weird, almost like paint or plastic, perhaps. I'm afraid to try it, having left it on for a good 30 mins, it still smells like this.
Anyone know anything about this? I've only had it for a month or so, got it on Amazon.

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Set the temp very high and let it just sit for a few hours. IIRC the manual suggests to burn-in like this; the smell is to be expected. If the smell doesn't go away, contact the seller for an exchange or contact Arizer for warranty service.

I've been hearing lots on the arizer Eq having electronics that heat up. Manufacturer on the other hand says all electronics lead free ect. whats the verdict?

This should have been posted in the extreme Q thread and will most likely be moved there.

The intake air does go over the electronics in the Q, but this air is cool and then heated prior to the vapor path.

I had my Extreme Q open to clean it out (make sure no dust in air path etc.), this was recommended to me by the tech at Arizer as I hadn't used it for a while and wasn't confident it was operating as well as it should.

When I had it opened, I thought I'd remove the heater cover to give it a good cleaning too, and saw that there is actually a piece of plastic supporting the ceramic heater rod (goes slightly into the hollow heating rod to support it) and it's slightly melted ... this little piece of plastic supporting the ceramic heating rod is in the airpath and this concerns me ...

Anyone have any thoughts on this? Has this issue previously been discussed and addressed by Arizer?

I love my Solo, and for my primary at home Vape I use my Volcano, although I like a direct draw model too. I have a Da Buddha that I acquired recently that I like, but I've been playing around with my Extreme trying to get the most of it too (while waiting for my turn to order my VapeXhale Cloud!) ... but this discovery has me concerned. I don't even know if I'd feel comfortable selling it without disclosing this first!

@JCat -

Sorry, but I don't remember this specifically being discussed before on the thread. You might try a boolean search like:

extreme AND heater AND plastic

or

extreme AND heater AND cover

And then check the posts that come up under this thread only. I think you'll find some discussion about the heater cover and supports, don't know if this will apply directly.

If no help there, take a couple pics and send to Kevin at Arizer.

Good luck. (Also, I wouldn't use the unit until this is diagnosed.)

No need to post pictures ... you can see the plastic piece in post 4145.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8656/loweredelement.jpg

If you look at the picture where it shows the raised heater cover, you can see a piece of black plastic between the 2 wires and it actually goes up inside the ceramic heater a little bit. You can see it in the picture pretty clearly and if you actually pull that little piece of plastic out, because it's just "clipped" in on both sides, you can see it's a little melted where it connects to the heater.

Also did a search but couldn't find much on this specific issue although some users complain about a plastic smell so this could well be one of the causes ...

JCat said:

No need to post pictures ... you can see the plastic piece in post 4145.

http://img849.imageshack.us/img849/8656/loweredelement.jpg

If you look at the picture where it shows the raised heater cover, you can see a piece of black plastic between the 2 wires and it actually goes up inside the ceramic heater a little bit. You can see it in the picture pretty clearly and if you actually pull that little piece of plastic out, because it's just "clipped" in on both sides, you can see it's a little melted where it connects to the heater.

Also did a search but couldn't find much on this specific issue although some users complain about a plastic smell so this could well be one of the causes ...

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I see what you are ref'g to, but again sorry I have no idea whether you have a real problem or not.

This theoretically could be a reason for the smell sometimes reported, but in most cases that is a known phenomena that goes away after burn-in. (Excluding the occasional pvc smell.)

I'd query Kevin. Given how many Q's have been shipped, there is a good chance he can put his finger on the problem straightaway (assuming there is one).

If I can ever get these issues sorted out with my Extreme, might be interested in some of that custom glass that used to exist on K.J. Rockwise too ... a custom piece with an open bowl (just a ridge?) to hold a screen would be a good addition for the Extreme Custom glass collection too ... or maybe a 90deg F/F 18mm connector to replace the bowl with a straight style wand with a larger cavity similar to the Da Buddha for whip based hits off the Extreme ... just some thoughts ...

Something I had discovered early on when my Extreme was my main vape, if you raise the screen about 1/4"-1/2" from the bottom of the bowl, then the herb would vaporizer much more evenly then if it is all the way at the bottom when blowing bags. I assumed this was because of the fact that all the herb would then come into contact with the hot air stream as opposed to what was around the edges getting bypassed. This works well for non-elbow pack whip hits ... (my preferred way to use this vaporizer lately). This also had the added benefit of keeping the bowl cleaner because you could blow it out after use and little pieces wouldn't get stuck between the screen and the glass which is a common complaint I have about most vaporizers ... the screen should be held in place by a lip or a recess IMHO so that nothing can get stuck between the screen and what's behind it.

Other people in this forum grind out the center of their bowl to make it bigger as well (so elbow packs vape more evenly for instance or to fit an elbow screen in the bowl itself for inverse hits) so it seems like a bowl with just a tiny lip or a small recess to hold the screen would be nice.