Vaporizer for elderly

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dsfan

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My Grandmother has some health issues that are helped, significantly, by herbs. I've been baking the herbs into various foods but it is not efficient and is quite the hassle. I'd love to get her a vaporizer and she is excited about the idea as well.

Right now I am trying to figure out what would be best for her. The most important qualities are ease of use and efficiency. I've narrowed it down to:

  • Arizer Extreme Q - a friend has this and it works great. Im worried about the breakable parts. Her hands are not very steady and I could see her breaking the glass. On the other hand it is nice that it can double for potpourri.
  • Arizer Solo - This sounds very nice, but I saw some early reports that it was hard to draw from. Has that been resolved? Also, is it easy to use / clean / maintain? This one is nice because it is very small, although she will not be traveling with it much.
  • Herbalaire - Right now this is probably number one on my list. It seems fairly easy to use. Is it easy to maintain as well? I like that she could easily use bags with this one. I've never seen or used this one so I'm a little hesitant.
Does anyone have any insight into what would be best for an elderly woman?
Thanks!
 
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SD_haze

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dsfan said:
Does anyone have any insight into what would be best for an elderly woman?

Thanks!
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The arizer and herbalaire aren't too great for small loads, which unless she's a regular smoker would probably be most ideal for medicinal use (although that varies by condition)

Since she won't be traveling a lot, and efficiency/easy of use is key, a "log vape" style vaporizer sounds like the perfect fit.

No buttons, no digital displays, no flashing lights or beeps.
Just simple, efficient, effectiveness.

In no particular order, the king log vape brands right now are:
1. Underdog (underdogvapes.com)
2. The HI (heat island)
3. Rockzap (aromazap.com
4. the OCD (oldcitydiffusers.com)
5. the epic vape (epicvape.com)

They all have their own individual threads in the vaporizer discussion section.
 
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Thanks for the fast response! I don't know much about log vapes. I'm going to read up on them tonight. I forgot to mention that I have MFLB, which is okay for small loads, but it is hard to get the hang of (pulse your draws, etc).

Thanks again.
 
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Nycdeisel

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I would highly recommend the RockZap! Its my daily driver and I love it. Great for medical purposes , it is extremely efficient, and gives potent vapor without being harsh at all. It is also warm which is good for the hands, and it is easy to hold and easy to use. Plus its very pretty and takes up little space on a desk or table. There are also some very cool accessories for it now that are also a lot of fun.
Best of luck to your grandmother!
 
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SD_haze

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Only reason I wouldn't recommend the rockzap is if she has weak lungs, because the draw on it is fairly restricted (compared to the underdog/HI). Personally, i suffer from TMJ so my zap doesn't get much use because it puts a lot of pressure on my jaw.

Also, its critical to have a proper grind (generally a little finer than what people are used to) similar to the MFLB, although you don't want it as ultra-fine. As long as she's willing to work with it I think its an excellent choice :tup:
 
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charliedontsurf

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I usually prefer the Q, but the HA would be great for her. It has has no glass parts, will survive a drop or 12, works quickly and cleanly, and can blow bags which she will probably find very pleasant and easy to deal with versus trying to rope a Rockzap or similar vape. The bag-blower does all the work and she only needs inhale it at her leisure. A logvape is also fixed temp (or bracketed by its voltage abilities at least) and won't allow her to vape whatever herb she wants like an HA will. Hops for instance would be pretty nasty out of my Underdog or a CRZ, the temperature is simply too high.

Didn't some Chinese scientists actually choose the HA for studying traditional herbs? There was some advertising to that effect iirc. If it was good enough for them it's probably good enough for granny.
 
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pyloric

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~I am an actual granny who would like to know what HA stands for. I am educating myself about a fascinating subject. Thanks~
 
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Arizer Solo - This sounds very nice, but I saw some early reports that it was hard to draw from.
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A restricted draw doesn't necessarily = "hard to draw from", and it may even help to control the hits vs. a more free flowing design. Not everyone wants the big hits.

SD_haze said:
Only reason I wouldn't recommend the rockzap is if she has weak lungs, because the draw on it is fairly restricted (compared to the underdog/HI). Personally, i suffer from TMJ so my zap doesn't get much use because it puts a lot of pressure on my jaw.

Also, its critical to have a proper grind (generally a little finer than what people are used to) similar to the MFLB, although you don't want it as ultra-fine. As long as she's willing to work with it I think its an excellent choice :tup:
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The draw isn't really restricted that much if you don't pack the bowl, and it's not critical AT ALL to have a fine grind-just use any decent 2 pc. grinder. A fine grind is just gonna contribute to a restricted draw.
 
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dsfan, you may want to contact Vito. He is well versed on almost every vape out there and their uses medicinally. He doesn't really check his pm's here, so contact him at azvaportrail@gmail.com. Tell him mom sent you. ;)

To get an idea of how well versed he is on vapes, click here for his information page from his profile. I cannot think of one person on this forum that could help you and your grandmother more. He will even do a Skype session with her to teach her how to use a vape if she's at all computer savvy.
 
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One point in favour of the Herbalaire that hasn't been mentioned is that it doesn't need ground material. Grinding is not only extra preparation hassle, it can be difficult for elderly patients with arthritic or weak hands.
 
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weedemon

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I think the herbalaire (HA) would be the best fit. a bag vape takes all the work out of the equation.

I think a log vape would possibly be a good fit too. just gotta be certain about lung draw power because logs tend to need a bit more power on the lungs.

This is why i think a bag is good. if you can breathe you should be able to use this! :)
 
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lwien

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I'm 68 and the Purple Days (log vape) is perfect for me, but I don't know how old your grandmother is nor do I know what health issues she has, but if she has decreased lung issues and/or if her hands aren't really steady, I'd go with the HerbaiAir.
 
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I think log vapes are well suited for this situation. from your post I assume she isn't a regular stoner, so high tolerance won't be an issue. a logvape makes it possible to dose accurately, they look nice, made of wood wich is probably more atractive to someone who's less familiar wth technological gadgets. fixed temp, so no hassling around to search for the temp, just plug in, wait and vape.
plug&play.
and a logvape won't break as easily if you drop it, I've accidently knocked my underdog off the table it's on a few times(when cleaning or grabbing something from the back of the table), and it's still working perfectly, no damage from the falling.
and some people may also like the warmth when holding it.
and with the current logvapes you can customize a lot of how it looks, so you could choose a shape/size that feels best for your grandmother to hold
 
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lwien

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Being that her hands aren't really steady, she may have a difficult time mating the stem to the heat exchanger in a log vape. Just something to consider
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momofthegoons

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lwien said:
Being that her hands aren't really steady, she may have a difficult time mating the stem to the heat exchanger in a log vape. Just something to consider
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I don't see anywhere where it was mentioned that her hands were unsteady, lwien...

So I guess we should say if her hands are unsteady...

My vote still lies with contacting Vito for the right fit with a vape. :2c:
 
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My vote still lies with contacting Vito for the right fit with a vape. :2c:

~I am an actual granny who would like to know what HA stands for. I am educating myself about a fascinating subject. Thanks~
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pyloric, welcome to the forum. :D HA stands for HerbalAire. Other acronym meanings can be found here.
 
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weedemon

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hehe i went back looked for where it said her hands were unsteady. only skimmed it and didn't see it either. thx for pointing it out! im pretty vaked!
 
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Vicki

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hehe i went back looked for where it said her hands were unsteady. only skimmed it and didn't see it either. thx for pointing it out! im pretty vaked!
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If you look at my last post, you can see where the OP did say her hands were unsteady.

I've been watching this thread because it interests me as I also have RA and my hands are the same way. :)
 
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momofthegoons

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oops, I missed it too! I've edited my prior post.

Sorry to have ever doubted you lwien! ;)
 
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weedemon

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Vicki said:
If you look at my last post, you can see where the OP did say her hands were unsteady.

I've been watching this thread because it interests me as I also have RA and my hands are the same way. :)
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that what i was saying Vicki :) I should have used the reply button to quote you originally.
 
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