lwien
Well-Known Member
Some are. Some aren't.
While it's soooo convenient to generalize, what is convenient, in most cases, is flat out wrong.
Obama's respons (to the F'ing raids in Cali this week)
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Some are. Some aren't.
While it's soooo convenient to generalize, what is convenient, in most cases, is flat out wrong.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
One thing to consider is this: I PAID into the SSI system. That is called a "social contract" and it is one I was forced to enter into with the government. Now that I am disabled, and collecting, I feel I am getting what was agreed to, and thank goodness. If you would have asked me to prepare for an illness I never would have dreamed I would get I wouldn't have done it. In fact I passed on disability insurance at work.
Bleezy
Burn without Fire
Shouldn't you avid pursuers of illegal alien persecution focus on the topic of abusing government handouts in general rather than limiting it to foreigners? There are a lot of home-grown lazy people who somehow work the system and sit around collecting welfare rather than work, and you folks are getting exited over a minority percentage of the "inadequately" distributed welfare compensation that is going to underprivileged, self-bettering people who, for the most part, are trying to find a place where they can work to earn a decent living for their families. Oh no! The US of A might actually get to see some CHARACTER for a change.
The "issue" of illegal immigration is simply another xenophobic act of nationalism crafted to brainwash people into accepting our grand leaders' (of which Obama is a puppet, not a master) agenda. It is not rational behavior to vehemently oppose helping people in need. Yes, even the ones on the other side of that line over there, brown ones, and ESPECIALLY dirty ones. Remember: people always come first, no matter what. Believing otherwise is what got us into this situation in the first place (well.. overpopulation, too).
P.S. The counterpart to a Republican is a Democrat. While Democrats are generally liberal, not all liberals are Democrats.
Tea Party
Boro Connoisseur
Everey republican I know of donates quite a bit to charity and donates quite a bit of time ( when some of these people make $100-$1000 an hour it is a big deal).
I have friends who are younger than 25 who pay $300k+ in income taxes every year ( this doesn't even count all the taxs on gasoline, alcohol, property, electricity, sales, ect). That buys a lot of lazy people healthcare.
If it weren't for the 1%'s who pay huge taxes this country would fall apart tomorrow.
I have friends who are younger than 25 who pay $300k+ in income taxes every year ( this doesn't even count all the taxs on gasoline, alcohol, property, electricity, sales, ect). That buys a lot of lazy people healthcare.
If it weren't for the 1%'s who pay huge taxes this country would fall apart tomorrow.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
LOL! That is one of the funniest things I've heard in a while. The "1%" use every tax loophole they can to "avoid" taxes. Even by using foreign banks. Examples that come to mind are Romney and Apple, just to name two of the many that do it.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
From the National Taxpayers Union website, data for 2009
Percentiles Ranked by AGI
AGI Threshold on Percentiles
Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid
Top 1% $343,927 = 36.73%
Top 5% $154,643 = 58.66%
Top 10% $112,124 = 70.47%
Top 25% $66,193 = 87.30%
Top 50% $32,396 = 97.75%
Bottom 50%<$32,396 = 2.25%
Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
Percentiles Ranked by AGI
AGI Threshold on Percentiles
Percentage of Federal Personal Income Tax Paid
Top 1% $343,927 = 36.73%
Top 5% $154,643 = 58.66%
Top 10% $112,124 = 70.47%
Top 25% $66,193 = 87.30%
Top 50% $32,396 = 97.75%
Bottom 50%<$32,396 = 2.25%
Note: AGI is Adjusted Gross Income
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
I'm paying 87.30%!!! That is insane!!!!
Bleezy
Burn without Fire
One thing you better believe is that the US government can control anything it wants to, short of the weather... (i swear i think i read that they're working on that, too, in Alaska or something...)
what i said is the textbook difference. but yeah in practice they're identical nowadays. we're kicking ourselves more than them by throwing them in our nice, comfy, expensive amerikan jails.
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
When I was 14, and got my first job, I had to get a SSI card and a work permit. Had nothing before that, except a military ID. My daughter got her's (SSI card) at birth, like you said.
turk
turk
...oh I have my own sources....plus numbers are only one variable of the study....there are other components other than the final numbers which define the validity of those numbers...ever take statistics...I have...you can develop a "casual relationship vis-a-vis numbers"...between the flatulence in india and my uncle ralph's cancer....and personally even if the great "taxpayers assoc" said "turk is a briilliant"....I would have to question it....they have proven to be liars/charlatans...
Vicki
Herbal Alchemist
turk, if you look, like I did, the numbers are the same with the IRS. As much as I don't like the IRS, I don't think they are fudging numbers, or in a conspiracy with the National Taxpayers Union to fudge numbers.
t-dub
Vapor Sloth
Come on Turk lets see your numbers dude . . . oh thats right they are a secret . . . if you are gonna call my source liars then usually the idea is to post your source, so I can see it, then we can decide together who is telling the truth. I am waiting for your numbers Turk and I understand statistics just fine btw. This one is a bit too easy to be fudged with those tactics . . .
