Arizer Solo

vorrange

vorrange

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Lithium-ion operates safely within the designated operating voltages; however, the battery becomes unstable if inadvertently charged to a higher than specified voltage. Prolonged charging above 4.30V forms plating of metallic lithium on the anode, while the cathode material becomes an oxidizing agent, loses stability and produces carbon dioxide (CO2). The cell pressure rises, and if charging is allowed to continue the current interrupt device (CID) responsible for cell safety disconnects the current at 1,380kPa (200psi).
Should the pressure rise further, a safety membrane bursts open at 3,450kPa (500psi) and the cell might eventually vent with flame. The thermal runaway moves lower when the battery is fully charged; for Li-cobalt this threshold is between 130–150C°C (266–302°F), nickel-manganese-cobalt (NMC) is 170–180°C (338–356°F), and manganese is 250°C (482°F). Li-phosphate enjoys similar and better temperature stabilities than manganese.
Lithium-ion is not the only battery that is a safety hazard if overcharged. Lead- and nickel-based batteries are also known to melt down and cause fire if improperly handled. Nickel-based batteries have also been recalled for safety concerns. Properly designed charging equipment is paramount for all battery systems.

Taken from Batteryuniversity.com , Nice one Elias!
 
CentiZen

CentiZen

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Yes, however that is assuming that the circuit providing power to the battery is incessant and unprotected. Our arizer, and most if not all CE certified electronics companies have protection circuits in all of their product which prevent that. Those sorts of issues will only happen if you are manually charging batteries off of a bench power supply or something.

We will not cause any problems to our batteries by keeping it plugged in once the battery has reached capacity.
 
Nic

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Well that doesn't sound pleasant at all. Seeing as I have not read any horror stories on this thread pertaining to over charging, may I presume that the Solo has an automatic shut-off for the charger? Or is it more common to babysit these things while charging?

EDIT: Thank you CentiZen, I pulled the trigger too fast on this one.
 
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vorrange

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Centizen has corrected what i said. It would be true if the battery did not have a protection circuit.

So, it is okay to leave it charging overnight :)

EDIT: Nic, that bullet ricocheted on my post, hehehe.
 
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I do that too whenever I can, I also like to use the stealth adapter instead of the normal stems when I'm doing that. It keeps the flavor good for longer though, that's for sure. I also really (really) lightly pack my bowls now to prevent little pieces from falling into the heater which mangles the taste a tiny bit.
 
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Papa Woody

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I've had my M104 plugged in and charging everyday since I bought it back in late October with no issues battery wise. If I use it while I'm home I'll plug it in and recharge between sessions. When I'm out skiing and away from the charger I'll get about 6 full 12 minute cycles at level 4 to 5 which will take me to a battery level of 3. I never let my Solo battery get below 3.

I really like my Solo and find it to be an outstanding use it anywhere on the mountain vape.
 
u bwade wunner

u bwade wunner

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Vito somewhere on the thread someone spoke of the solo battery being akin to a fuel tank on a car.You should never let it run low.Kinda stuck with me that one:).love the solo box by the way.

Thanks Jrr .what a great way to start a saturday!
 
m0sh

m0sh

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^^ I never heard that a battery needs no calibration ... and it should be good to fully empty it once a month...

This is for new laptop batteries and cellphones, why not solo as well?
 
Nic

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For those who charge after every use (while remembering to do a full cycle once a month), how much time do you allow for cool-down? I've heard plugging in a hot battery is also degenerative.
 
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natural farmer

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Nic said:
For those who charge after every use (while remembering to do a full cycle once a month), how much time do you allow for cool-down? I've heard plugging in a hot battery is also degenerative.
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Actually it's not the batteries that get hot as far as I can tell, it's the top part with the airway... So I don't think it will be a problem.
 
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Thinking out loud... I wonder if our airflow vs. tight-fit issues could be resolved with rifling around the outside of the bottom end of the stem. That way it could fit snug and allow air to pass more effectively than with just the notches Ed and PV are experimenting with.
 
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Nic said:
Thinking out loud... I wonder if our airflow vs. tight-fit issues could be resolved with rifling around the outside of the bottom end of the stem. That way it could fit snug and allow air to pass more effectively than with just the notches Ed and PV are experimenting with.
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Interesting idea! Who knows? Maybe PV, Ed or someone else will try that in the future... Hard but possible!
 
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1800yolk

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Right, but it has been said that they went to 107 then came back to 106 even though they were both the same model
 
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darkrom

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1800yolk said:
Right, but it has been said that they went to 107 then came back to 106 even though they were both the same model
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Arizer says a lot of things. This is why I don't believe them. It makes sense to me that the 107 released in human time AFTER the 106 is probably a new model. They just don't want everyone beta testing with the earlier models to think they should return theirs for an upgrade IMO. No facts for this, but when the company is totally avoiding contact on the site and doesn't even acknowledge their own product on their site, its pretty hard to get ANY facts. This is why everything with the solo ends up being assumption based.
 
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1800yolk

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darkrom said:
Arizer says a lot of things. This is why I don't believe them. It makes sense to me that the 107 released in human time AFTER the 106 is probably a new model. They just don't want everyone beta testing with the earlier models to think they should return theirs for an upgrade IMO. No facts for this, but when the company is totally avoiding contact on the site and doesn't even acknowledge their own product on their site, its pretty hard to get ANY facts. This is why everything with the solo ends up being assumption based.
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Ah i gotcha, good to know thanks
 
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