Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer

fail

fail

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DevoTheStrange said:
instead of covering the top with the end of a sock, have you considered using the tube part of the sock open at both ends slid around your unit? It provides enough insulation to bump up the temps without covering up the heat exchange at the top.
I just used a long tube sock and cut off the portion containing the elastic and folded it over itself so it was the same size as the PD is high. and just slid the sock over it, with the top part sticking out maybe a centimeter or so... It would make the PD run as warm as when I had it on 13v adapter.
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I tried few configurations and this one gave the optimal temps. Sure it is possible to get the same temp with the sleeve setup, but I just stop messing with it after getting desired effect.
This is actually another manifestation of lacking temp adjustment in the PD. Even when you try to use stuff like socks, it is still difficult to get the right results and it takes many days to try various configurations.

Unfortunately I have poor knowledge with electric parts and I cannot make the adjusting device myself.
I was thinking about creating a voltage adjustment device that will be in the middle between the power cord and the PD. I have no clue what parts I need for this, is a Rotary Switch enough on its own? Are there any ratings for Rotary Switch? I have a 14V power supply and so the in-the-middle device will have to only lower the voltage, there is no need for the device to be able to increase the voltage.
 
fail,
pinoy

pinoy

PACQUIAO!!!
That is actually a great idea. A power adapter similar to the mflb pa but used for log vapes would be on the top of my wishlist.
 
pinoy,
DevoTheStrange

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
fail said:
DevoTheStrange said:
instead of covering the top with the end of a sock, have you considered using the tube part of the sock open at both ends slid around your unit? It provides enough insulation to bump up the temps without covering up the heat exchange at the top.
I just used a long tube sock and cut off the portion containing the elastic and folded it over itself so it was the same size as the PD is high. and just slid the sock over it, with the top part sticking out maybe a centimeter or so... It would make the PD run as warm as when I had it on 13v adapter.
Click to expand...

I tried few configurations and this one gave the optimal temps. Sure it is possible to get the same temp with the sleeve setup, but I just stop messing with it after getting desired effect.
This is actually another manifestation of lacking temp adjustment in the PD. Even when you try to use stuff like socks, it is still difficult to get the right results and it takes many days to try various configurations.

Unfortunately I have poor knowledge with electric parts and I cannot make the adjusting device myself.
I was thinking about creating a voltage adjustment device that will be in the middle between the power cord and the PD. I have no clue what parts I need for this, is a Rotary Switch enough on its own? Are there any ratings for Rotary Switch? I have a 14V power supply and so the in-the-middle device will have to only lower the voltage, there is no need for the device to be able to increase the voltage.
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I cannot remember who it is, But a FC member here, used a Laboratory supply hooked up to their PD. That way you can actually control how much power your PD is getting.
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I have a similar power supply, but have yet to hook it up to the correct plug to fit the PD, but it can be done.

The only modifications you would have to make would be to add the proper sized plug if you are using a similar power supply.
Should be able to find other cheaper variable DC power supplies other than the Lab ones, Those can be a bit expensive for good ones.
Some of the tattoo power supplies fall in the operating range of the PD and are much cheaper than the Lab ones.
http://www.amazon.com/Tekpower-Tattoo-Power-Supply-HY1502C/dp/B000MT3GCI like this one. it comes with a foot switch (this is a part that you don't need, for tattooing yes, vaping no), which you would replace the the M sized Plug. and there you go, a variable power supple from 1.5v to 15v running at 2 amps.
 
DevoTheStrange,
LaunchBox420

LaunchBox420

Quinton
ya temperature control would be awesome! How long does it take for the heat exchanger to cool down so i can put it away?
 
LaunchBox420,
fail

fail

Well-Known Member
DevoTheStrange said:
fail said:
DevoTheStrange said:
instead of covering the top with the end of a sock, have you considered using the tube part of the sock open at both ends slid around your unit? It provides enough insulation to bump up the temps without covering up the heat exchange at the top.
I just used a long tube sock and cut off the portion containing the elastic and folded it over itself so it was the same size as the PD is high. and just slid the sock over it, with the top part sticking out maybe a centimeter or so... It would make the PD run as warm as when I had it on 13v adapter.
Click to expand...

I tried few configurations and this one gave the optimal temps. Sure it is possible to get the same temp with the sleeve setup, but I just stop messing with it after getting desired effect.
This is actually another manifestation of lacking temp adjustment in the PD. Even when you try to use stuff like socks, it is still difficult to get the right results and it takes many days to try various configurations.

Unfortunately I have poor knowledge with electric parts and I cannot make the adjusting device myself.
I was thinking about creating a voltage adjustment device that will be in the middle between the power cord and the PD. I have no clue what parts I need for this, is a Rotary Switch enough on its own? Are there any ratings for Rotary Switch? I have a 14V power supply and so the in-the-middle device will have to only lower the voltage, there is no need for the device to be able to increase the voltage.
Click to expand...

I cannot remember who it is, But a FC member here, used a Laboratory supply hooked up to their PD. That way you can actually control how much power your PD is getting.
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTNlEDPtGy0BIXTAGyG8i0ie9FLLqGrdjz-DyI6Aaul2Z80hRg9
I have a similar power supply, but have yet to hook it up to the correct plug to fit the PD, but it can be done.

The only modifications you would have to make would be to add the proper sized plug if you are using a similar power supply.
Should be able to find other cheaper variable DC power supplies other than the Lab ones, Those can be a bit expensive for good ones.
Some of the tattoo power supplies fall in the operating range of the PD and are much cheaper than the Lab ones.
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This kind of equipment costs hundreds of dolars. I need for it to be only few dollars like a DIY Rotary Switch hack.
 
fail,
DevoTheStrange

DevoTheStrange

Ia! Ia! Vapor Fthagn!
then just buy a rheostat and a housing. Really easy to build.
Just going to be a homemade power supply.

however it might be easier to just buy $40/50 supply like the one i linked above (the tattoo one, not the lab one). All the power supplies ive built were $30-50 in parts.
 
DevoTheStrange,
fail

fail

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DevoTheStrange said:
then just buy a rheostat and a housing. Really easy to build.
Just going to be a homemade power supply.
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Thanks!!! rheostat is the word that I was looking for :p :p :p This is exactly what I need.
Do you know if there are voltage ratings for rheostat and how to read the ratings?
 
fail,
fail

fail

Well-Known Member
DevoTheStrange said:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potentiometer

you will probably have to buy a specific one, on how to figure that out I cannot help. I use specific rheostats that are used in my job, outside of those I know nothing. I dont know why to use those specific ones I just know what ones I need to use.
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In the wiki it tells that:
Potentiometers are rarely used to directly control significant power (more than a watt), since the power dissipated in the potentiometer would be comparable to the power in the controlled load (see infinite switch).
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I have calculated that I will have to control 36 watts. 18V * 2amp = 36 watt
 
fail,
W

Wolface

Well-Known Member
The MFLB now has a temperature control power adapter that is working very well according to forum members. I'm sure a simple power adapter with a dial temp. control could be made available for log vapes as well.
 
Wolface,
W

Wolface

Well-Known Member
Very nice! and cheaper than the new MFLB power adapter too! For someone looking for a little more heat for their log vape, it should work good.
 
Wolface,
F

finchrock24

Proud MMJ Patient
http://www.smarthome.com/2456D3/LampLinc-INSTEON-Plug-In-Lamp-Dimmer-Module-3-Pin/p.aspx

or for the less expensive option

http://www.smarthome.com/2856D2B/ICON-Dimmer-INSTEON-Plug-In-Dimmer-Module/p.aspx

You can control on/off and dimmer control with a remote. Just plug your log vape into this guy and the remote should control power and temperature. I spent like 5 minutes google searching so iunno if this can 'handle the load' so to speak but its just something I found. Maybe someone with electronic experience can confirm if it is safe to use on a log vape.
 
finchrock24,
hereatlast

hereatlast

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Its worth mentioning I think that the PD was not designed to be used as a variable temperature vaporizer. While I'm sure folks find success in heating up their log-vapes above the manufactured temperature, the design is fundamentally grounded in a set-operating-temperature framework. This is far from a flaw, it is the nature of the beast :2c:


For what its worth, I've resorted to a sock in the last month or so with my Black Walnut PD because the temperature in my apartment is definitely a few degrees lower in the winter months and affects the vaping temperature, in my case this is a temporary solution to what is not unanimously considered a problem.
 
hereatlast,
lwien

lwien

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Guys, the PD is designed to perform within certain design parameters. Hooking something like this up could potentially cause damage and/or premature wear and tear and could void your warranty. Just a heads up............
 
lwien,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
A variable power supply will ensure that you always get 12 volts no matter what the wall voltage. If a log is running a little cool for whatever reason (wood type, ambient temp, etc.) it can be adjusted to the personal preference of the owner. It does allow someone to abuse their log, but then that would be their loss.
I see it as something for someone who is really serious about their vaporizer and wants a bit of temperature control.
 
Alan,
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finchrock24

Proud MMJ Patient
I'm just saying...I think if someone is smart enough to purchase a PD, read up on here, find a proper dimming adapter I don't think there would be any problems. Like I said, iunno if what I linked to will work or not...I'm hoping someone thats good with volts, watts, amps, etc can chime in. I just posted it as more something to help fail with his idea.
 
finchrock24,
lwien

lwien

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TV said:
A variable power supply will ensure that you always get 12 volts no matter what the wall voltage. If a log is running a little cool for whatever reason (wood type, ambient temp, etc.) it can be adjusted to the personal preference of the owner. It does allow someone to abuse their log, but then that would be their loss.
I see it as something for someone who is really serious about their vaporizer and wants a bit of temperature control.
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I'm really serious about my vape and I would be very hesitant to use something like this. Maybe we should wait to let Tom weigh in on this. It may not prove to be an issue, but then again it may. Tom?
 
lwien,
P

Purple-Days

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JESUS, you stay away to put in a hard day of work, then an evening with a sick dog, and come back to this bullshit.

Didn't stop to see who started this Variable Voltage advice, but it doesn't matter, enough folks have chimed in. I suppose they are gonna warrant your unit after you over-volt it and kill it.

Dumb, stupid, irresponsible advice. But go ahead, plenty of stupid folks on You Tube, to prove you are in good company. :rolleyes:

I have an idea, just hook the motherfucker up to 120 Volts it'll get plenty hot. Probably just burn out the resistor, but since some of you are such experts and scientists, well I'm sure safety is your first concern. These guys sure haven't given you any suggested upper Voltage...

I will, here it is. The PD is meant to operate on the Jameco #10081 12 Volt AC (@1000mA) wall transformer and will also work on other power supplies with this rating. no other wall power supply has ever been supplied or offered by Purple-Days Diffusers.

Hey, how about you run some Racing Octane in your commuter car. Bet it runs great, can't hurt, right?

Don't care who this pisses off. Stupid idea! EDIT: ( ... ) posters, who have no sense of responsibility.

mod note: Calling members stupid is a violation of the rules. Name calling is never acceptable on the forum.
 
Purple-Days,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
I was pointing out a device that would deliver exactly what a 20 ohm 5 watt resistor needs to deliver the user preferred, herb dependent temperatures. If you were the innovator you claim to be, you would recognize this.
Setting the voltage to value higher than 12 volts (you actually know the voltage) can bring the log up to temp faster and then back down to 12 volts for use.
A custom cord allows the log to be much farther from the power supply.
If someone abuses their log and needs a new one, the log manufacturer wins because they will sell a new one.
Personally, I would never buy anything from someone who uses such foul language and disparaging remarks. I will buy from someone who respects their customers.
 
Alan,
P

Purple-Days

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TV, I don't want your business :lol: . I make a fixed temp vape and you want variable temp, so why are you here? Move on. And, foul language? This place is called Fuck Combustion, so get over the fucking language.
 
Purple-Days,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
I just expected more from a manufacturer whom everyone speaks so highly. I will look for a manufacturer who listens to the desires of the customers. Someone who can be flexible and innovative.
It wasn't me asking for variable temp. Just provided a link to a device that will do it and not cost a fortune.
 
Alan,
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