Davinci by Karma

VaporAje · Mar 20, 2012

I think there is a place for Conduction based vapes, for solids or oils, etc. The e-cigs all over the market are conduction based fluid vaporizers, totally different than our herbal vaporizers. Since I'm mainly interested in vaporizing herbal plant matter, convection design is my preference.

max · Mar 21, 2012

vape4life said:
Well I just have a bad taste in my mouth from my SSV days when I would accidentally combust.

With most vapes combustion is easily avoided. I've used an SSV for four years, including high temp use, and never combusted. As long as you can dial in the temp it's easy to tell when you're in the high temp range with harsh vapor and very dark ABV. Pushing it further is asking for trouble/combustion. It would never occur to me to avoid a vape that I like just because it's capable of reaching combustion. And with this one providing a digital display, it should be very easy indeed to avoid burning.

vape4life · Mar 21, 2012

thanks for the explanation max. I think i'll reconsider this vape now, i think part of my frustration with the ssv combustion was accidental particle heating the heater on occasion as well. This won't be an issue with the davinci. I look forward to your opinions and reviews.

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 21, 2012

max, thanks for the explanation.

vape4life, we don't expect many people to heat up the highest temp. I'd say 99% of users will stay in the sweet spots for the herbs they are vaping, hence us adding a temp guide in the davinci package.

kenny · Mar 22, 2012

vape4life said:
Why didn't the solo do the job enough for your preference? I don't understand, it's temps are an excellent range for both herb and concentrate. I don't see why the Davinci wouldn't simply follow those temps of 185-210C? No combustion, ever, at least in my experience of using various model solos since they were released.

You are correct though, there is no absolute NEED to hit those high temps, but why do they need to be so high? Is there some kind of substance that needs even higher than what the Solo can do at max? I don't get it, level 7 is almost too hot for concentrates I find. But to each their own.

Many of us use these vaporizers for medical applications. Medical marijuana's applied active ingredient is not THC but CDB as well as other cannabinoids. THC can ignite at 180'C, but CBD ignites at approximately 206' C and CBN (another ingredient) at 212'C. You often need to go above these temps to get more efficient ignition as well. Boiling point isn't enough, the chemicals need to burn, without burning the plant. That being said, often times the plant will burn, but not as much as if traditionally ignited.

For this reason and this reason alone, I will be buying the DaVinci. I am a medical user and have been looking for a portable vape that reaches 220'C.

It is also said that Volcano vaporizers are most efficient at 226'C.

Top end desktop vapes go up to 500F, though again, yes it depends on the condition of what is being vaped, and even so, you have to control yourself.

Thanks DaVinci!

WatTyler · Mar 23, 2012

kenny said:
Many of us use these vaporizers for medical applications. Medical marijuana's applied active ingredient is not THC but CDB as well as other cannabinoids. THC can ignite at 180'C, but CBD ignites at approximately 206' C and CBN (another ingredient) at 212'C. You often need to go above these temps to get more efficient ignition as well. Boiling point isn't enough, the chemicals need to burn, without burning the plant. That being said, often times the plant will burn, but not as much as if traditionally ignited....

All due respect Kenny, but I somewhat disagree with what you've written. Maybe it's just some confusion over the terms? There's no ignition going on. If there was, I'd throw my vape in the bin. Ignition = combustion. We definitely do not want these chemicals to burn- ignition effectively destroys the cannabinoids molecularly, rendering them useless for our purposes. This is one of the fundamental reasons why vaporizing is more 'efficient' than combustion- more of the active chemicals (cannabinoids) are released from the material and none are destroyed by ignition.

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 24, 2012

The DaVinci is now shipping! Some of our stock is in, so we've taken off the pre-order status and all previous orders plus any this weekend will ship first thing Monday morning.

We're kicking off with three colors: white, black and gray.

You can order directly from us http://www.karmaclassic.com/vaporizer and get free overnight shipping to the US/Canada and free Priority shipping to all other places in the world, so you can have your DaVinci right away.

You can also order from us on eBay, the ONLY place you can buy the DaVinci legally on Ebay:
Black unit: http://r.ebay.com/TjDMVm
White unit: http://r.ebay.com/cMDmMK

The Gray unit, we're waiting for ebay approval.

You will also be able to buy the DaVinci on amazon.com as of tomorrow. The only official place on amazon.com you can buy the DaVinci.

You've heard the hype, now you can have a DaVinci of your own.

I want to thank everyone who pre-ordered and those who emailed us with questions, gave us feedback, etc. We took a lot of the advice and feedback given to us to improve what we feel was already a great product.

If anyone is in Vegas for the Big Show this week, we'll be there as well. Stop by our booth and say "hi".

kenny · Mar 25, 2012

WatTyler said:
All due respect Kenny, but I somewhat disagree with what you've written. Maybe it's just some confusion over the terms? There's no ignition going on. If there was, I'd throw my vape in the bin. Ignition = combustion. We definitely do not want these chemicals to burn- ignition effectively destroys the cannabinoids molecularly, rendering them useless for our purposes. This is one of the fundamental reasons why vaporizing is more 'efficient' than combustion- more of the active chemicals (cannabinoids) are released from the material and none are destroyed by ignition.

I appreciate the response Tyler. I am still learning about the chemical properties of cannabinoids in relation to vapes, so by all means I am no expert. But if ignition destroys cannabinoids, how are people getting pain relief and getting "high" from traditional smoking?

WatTyler · Mar 26, 2012

kenny said:
I appreciate the response Tyler. I am still learning about the chemical properties of cannabinoids in relation to vapes, so by all means I am no expert. But if ignition destroys cannabinoids, how are people getting pain relief and getting "high" from traditional smoking?

I think that the cannabinoids that do the work when smoking are released from the vicinity of the ignition/combustion, rather than the actual act combustion itself, if you get what I mean. But some will also be destroyed by the combustion.

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 26, 2012

Look what's shipping out today

This is batch number 1, with many more to follow....

Sorry for the dodgy pics, they are quick down and dirty, straight from the camera, hey look it's a damn Davinci type pics

J.R.R.Tokin' · Mar 26, 2012

Very nice packaging. Loving the Vetruvian man image in the background. And I just checked and have my tracking number :rockon:

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 26, 2012

J.R.R.Tokin' said:
Very nice packaging. Loving the Vetruvian man image in the background. And I just checked and have my tracking number

Thanks and did you notice that one of his hands is holding a DaVinci Vaporizer? ;-)

Your package is on it's way. Enjoy!

I also shipped out a bunch of pre-ordered units. Whew, what a day. Thank goodness I won't be manning the mailing room full time, I just wanted to personally package and send out the first several units to go out the door.

J.R.R.Tokin' · Mar 26, 2012

Hehehe, I didn't see DaVinci in his hand. Nice touch!

caseball2051 · Mar 26, 2012

cant remember if i posted up or not, school has been killin me lately.

I got my shirt in from the contest a couple weeks ago. it came in rael quick! it is a cool shirt. It has the ventruvian man on the back with a davinci in his hand like on the box!

Kuroth1 · Mar 26, 2012

Got my Popcorn and sitting back waiting for the FC reviews to start rolling in... :popcorn:

Silvercloud538 · Mar 26, 2012

Davinci_vaporizer said:
Thanks and did you notice that one of his hands is holding a DaVinci Vaporizer? ;-)

Your package is on it's way. Enjoy!

I also shipped out a bunch of pre-ordered units. Whew, what a day. Thank goodness I won't be manning the mailing room full time, I just wanted to personally package and send out the first several units to go out the door.

Congrats DaVinci ,do you plan to introduce a hotter batt that loads/locks in under 90 sec ?/?/? ~ time is

of essence ~ that is all for now

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 26, 2012

silvercloud358 said:
Congrats DaVinci ,do you plan to introduce a hotter batt that loads/locks in under 90 sec ?/?/? ~ time is

of essence ~ that is all for now

We are looking at quite a few battery-related ideas for the next iteration of the DaVinci. We want to see more feedback from this generation too which will give us some ideas of what customers want and are looking for from future products. Customer feedback is of vital importance to us.

smokum · Mar 26, 2012

Kuroth1 said:
Got my Popcorn and sitting back waiting for the FC reviews to start rolling in...

DITTO !... I'm due for something new to try :nod:

vape4life · Mar 27, 2012

+1 Again... I really want this to be awesome, I love davinci's up right presence and honesty in the forum and the professionalism of their product (and packaging). Really can't wait for reviews and especially videos.

GReYAReA · Mar 27, 2012

I think my unit will be here tomorrow (its listed as EXPRESS shipped). I'll try to post some pics and impressions tomorrow evening, if it makes it here...

J.R.R.Tokin' · Mar 27, 2012

You lucky guy...post to UK can take anywhere from 5 days to 4 weeks in my experience with vapes so far - fingers crossed for super speedy as I'm super needy :lol:

Davinci_vaporizer · Mar 28, 2012

Just a heads up for those who've ordered recently. We hit a little bottleneck in shipping, so are seeing some minor delays getting everything sent out. I've upgrading everyone to express shipping for free to make up for inconvenience.

Our pre-order/first week numbers were through the roof. I'm hoping to see some great testimonial vids out there because I want to see how our actual customers view our product and give us the feedback we want/need to constantly provide the best quality products possible.

Dogman · Mar 28, 2012

This does look veeeeerrrry interesting! I love it when the manufacturers open up about their product, it shows a lot of character, something most of mankind is short on these days.

Best of luck DiVinci, I will be waiting for the reviews to roll in. I do not mind spending the money on a kick ass vaporizer, if it works as well as it looks, I can't wait to add it to my collection!

jhpfunk · Mar 29, 2012

Hey Davinci-

Can you overnight me one today so I get get it tomorrow if I pay asap? My whispr went down and I'd like a new toy for a day I have planned on sunday. JH

WatTyler · Mar 29, 2012

In an rush? If I were you I would call

edit, duh, I forgot about the time zone and thought you only had like an hour or so left to catch the post office lol not quite that urgent

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