quitting bho

Unfortunately I can't vape bho anymore because I get head pains even with vector. Anybody else had experience with this? Also I really like concentrates but can't afford C02 concentrates so what can I do with my trim to ensure a product that I can guarantee pharmaceutical quality with no contaminates? I can afford some $ but not a lot. The main two other methods would be qwiso and ethanol. I don't have experience with either. I'd appreciate it if you could point me in the direction of some good ethanol extraction techs. I heard iso doesn't taste very good.

why not go solvent-less with water/ice/whatever hash?

not as pure, but probably healthier. other solvents I have heard of are hexane and acetone, but still toxic like iso and butane, pretty much all solvents are. D-limonene is nontoxic though (I think). Ethanol is hard to get in pure form, most of that shit comes denatured and only 85% ethyl alcohol. rest is iso and some other stuff

ethanol extraction is the same as qwiso. just pour buds in jar with alcohol, shake for 60 seconds, strain alcohol and evaporate! grasscity has alot of qwiso/ethanol threads that are very informative, and I think you may find a few here in FC if you want to know more about the process

p.s. I'm making bho and trying it for the first time tomorrow
... and I also noticed you are on the waiting list for the HI. A fine choice!

yep I think you are gonna want to go solventless also. the main man regarding solvenless afaik is "selecta nikka t" google him he loves to help people learn his ways!

Yes, Nikka T makes some very nice soleventless hash. He has truly perfected his art and is extremely sharing with his knowledge.

i would say stick to dry sift or bubblebags. Butane is actually not especially harmful for human consumption, and when considering the amount left in properly purged oil, if any, is miniscule. I have experienced headaches from vaping terribly underpurged budder made with shitty tane, but aside from that i have had no problems thus far with BHO, though i am not a very heavy dabber either.

This is a recent development. I vaped bho for almost two years with no ill effects. Yeah I'm on the list for an HI. (I can't afford the cloud ). The LB is really starting to put a bit of strain on my upper respiratory system (back of the throat). I'm not sure if the waterpipe adaptor would fit. I have a stemless so theres no angle. It might be worth the nearly $50 to set up my LB to waterpipe but I'd rather have a better vape. Need fat hits! Noticed alot less flem than when smoking and believe I am on my way to medicating while keeping health it the utmost importance. I smoked for nearly 10 years ignoring vaporization because of the lack of taste I'd experienced with bag type vapes plus the high cost of quality vapes.

Back to the topic, I have seen pharmaceutical grade organic grain alcohol for $100 a gallon. Not very practical I suppose but there may be an alternative that costs less. Any suggestions for vaping bubble?

CHEI said:

This is a recent development. I vaped bho for almost two years with no ill effects. Yeah I'm on the list for an HI. (I can't afford the cloud ). The LB is really starting to put a bit of strain on my upper respiratory system (back of the throat). I'm not sure if the waterpipe adaptor would fit. I have a stemless so theres no angle. It might be worth the nearly $50 to set up my LB to waterpipe but I'd rather have a better vape. Need fat hits! Noticed alot less flem than when smoking and believe I am on my way to medicating while keeping health it the utmost importance. I smoked for nearly 10 years ignoring vaporization because of the lack of taste I'd experienced with bag type vapes plus the high cost of quality vapes.

Back to the topic, I have seen pharmaceutical grade organic grain alcohol for $100 a gallon. Not very practical I suppose but there may be an alternative that costs less. Any suggestions for vaping bubble?

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bubble hash can be simply ground up(if not already powder) and inserted into whatever vape you are using. if it is full melt, you can actually dab it with your BHO utensils.

Try making dry ice hash, it is incredibly simple and produces premium quality hash at great yields. The process basically operates on the same principle that bubble hash does, except without the mess. Here is a tutorial describing how it is done:

The best thing about an dry ice hash extraction is that once the process is finished, the dry ice will have completely evaporated away leaving you with plant material that you can still use in cooking. If you used bud with this technique you will have produced some super blond, super potent hash, and the plant matter left over is perfect for joints/blunts, as well as vaping.

edit: that is so awesome how I can now embed youtube videos on the forums now

I actually tried this once with a 90 micron 1 gallon bag and a normal size water pitcher with the handle cut off. It came out with some plant matter and dark goldish green color. It didn't taste very good so I made bho out of it. Also the trim left over after the kief extraction provided a bunch of bho after extracting.

So, where's a good place for the bags? Are they available at Home Depot?

Tuck said:

So, where's a good place for the bags? Are they available at Home Depot?

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No you need to order a 90 micron bubble bag. Lots of sites online to get it from. If your doing this you won't need the whole set of bags so try and find someone that sells individual micron size bags

nikka t sells em.

If anybody wants to give the dry ice method a try and you don't have a bubble bag, I suggest using a grinder with a kief screen. This is the method I used when I did this technique and everything worked out beautifully.

I got some dry ice in the mail from Omaha Steaks one day and decided to experiment, here is what I did, it is very simple.

I ground up around 2 grams of premium bud and I followed that by grinding up some chunks of dry ice. This method works by collecting tricomes that have become brittle due to the cold and have broken off the bud, so you need to let the bud and dry ice chill for a minute or so before you start shaking.

Once cold, simply shake you grinder until you are satisfied with the result. You may have to replace the dry ice once or twice throughout this process as it tends to disappear pretty quickly.

I have a very fine kief screen so I only collected the best material, but with a larger micron bag or screen you would get much more, yet slightly less premium kief. With the screen I used, I had a yield of 0.6 grams for 2 grams of bud, which is not bad, especially as you can use the plant matter you used in joint/blunts or vaping...here is a pic of some of the result, which is super sticky/potent and also smells and tastes amazing btw:

looks delicious onigiri1692!

I use a kanga can for dry ice extraction (trim/sugarleaf/bud) that has a 185 micron bag and feel it works GREAT. You just have to utilize a larger surface and you can visual space out your extraction into three grade areas. No need to shake the shit out of it, just a consistent up and down with broken dry ice pieces (I use the pellet shaped and it works well).

If your interested in the product I used (albeit slightly expensive considering what it includes, but like the 'all from one place' ordering as a kit and the bag design with its handles), here is the link: http://kangacan.com/kangacan.html

the health problems I have been experiencing haven't seemed to go away. I've been strictly hitting my LB while waiting for the HI and I'm not sure if I can wait to get a new vape. All the years I smoked I never had this issue. While effective at delivering THC, I think its possible that the LB is what is causing the damage not just to my psyche but also to my upper respiratory tract. I have been hacking badly after vaping. It may be due to the screen and wood (or other internal parts) heating up. But currently I have no other vape to fall back on. I really don't want to combust. Any suggestions?

CHEI said:

the health problems I have been experiencing haven't seemed to go away. I've been strictly hitting my LB while waiting for the HI and I'm not sure if I can wait to get a new vape. All the years I smoked I never had this issue. While effective at delivering THC, I think its possible that the LB is what is causing the damage not just to my psyche but also to my upper respiratory tract. I have been hacking badly after vaping. It may be due to the screen and wood (or other internal parts) heating up. But currently I have no other vape to fall back on. I really don't want to combust. Any suggestions?

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Have you tried taking a THC vacation? I can't really speak on your specific health issue, but maybe quitting for a week will do your body a lot of good and hopefully clear up your respiratory tract. I know it has been a milder then normal winter, but in the past too much smoking/vaping/whatever when it is cold has led to me exhibiting similar problems, usually taking a break cleared everything up for me.

Another suggestion is maybe stick to edibles for a little while, and give your respiratory tract a break in this way...it would certainly be a good alternative use for your trim and such.

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Have you tried taking a THC vacation? I can't really speak on your specific health issue, but maybe quitting for a week will do your body a lot of good and hopefully clear up your respiratory tract. I know it has been a milder then normal winter, but in the past too much smoking/vaping/whatever when it is cold has led to me exhibiting similar problems, usually taking a break cleared everything up for me.

Another suggestion is maybe stick to edibles for a little while, and give your respiratory tract a break in this way...it would certainly be a good alternative use for your trim and such.

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edibles are a good suggestion. if you want an easy tincture, just dissolve bho into everclear (1:1 ratio), and you're good to go. any other edible takes a bit more prep/cook time.

also if you don't currently hook your vape to a waterpiece, I highly recommend trying it.

Edit: ^^guess that won't be possible. I thought you meant you used the lb while the HI heated up, instead of waiting for it to arrive.

Could light scratches on the inside of a SS tube from removing extracted material be causing my ill effects? Isn't the same possible with glass? Note people seem to be enjoying what I make still. Last time I tried it the I'll effect was definitely noticeable. I'm also concerned about titanium skillet safety. Does titanium ever degrade from being subjected to such high temps repeatedly.

titanium oxidizes eventually, though this is filtered in the water, and it isn't 100% set in stone whether or not it is toxic to humans. as far as the reasons behind your ill effects, i cannot say for certain, but scratched stainless steel shouldn't aggravate much or anything.