Gentleman's Brand Vapes

2clicker said:

IMO comparing 1 pen at $70 to a 2 pen set @ $130 is not comparing apples to apples. if you go with the 2 pen set you are out $130 and the DA your still only out $70. i understand that you with the 2 pen set your getting them for $65, but then your splitting it with someone or paying for more pens than you need. that is not apples to apples. its better to compare the 1 Omi kit to the single DA kit. so for $100 you get an inferior pen with 1 Omi cart.

the RX thread unlocker can be had at multiple e-cig sites for only a few bucks. why would someone buy a whole pen kit just for a $3 adapter?

however, if the DA battery can be found for $20 online then id say thats a good route to go. $20 plus $10 an Omi cart (rediculous) is much better than all the options weve discussed so far.

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as i like to support companies that do good things, i bought the DA. supplying the unlocker (which was unbeknownst to me at the time), the swiss army approach, this was the reason. i have ordered many batteries from many different companies and this was the only one that DIDN'T come as described, unlocker or no. i posted the link for the 25 dollar version of this pen earlier, here it is again. from a different co. http://www.ecigbestsave.com/eGo-510-Variable-Voltage-Passthrough-p/ac pass ego-fslash-510.htm
as to comparing $70 to $100. that $100 "inferior pen" also came with a decent case (low end $12 - high end 20) a usb to wall adapter (low end $6 - high end) a comparable usb cord (honestly both sucked) and threads guaranteed to work. also cound have bought a cheaper 510 and just the thread unlocker elsewhere if i just wanted my needs met, however i like to give my money to companies trying to do good things, like the upcoming hammer and battery/cart tester. and whose products work and come with what they are described to come with. i figured this product was gonna be what it ended up being sans the missing cone, shitty box, and adapters. those are why i am really pissed off. and if you think $10 for an oil cart that really works is too much feel free to keep vaping your gman carts to get whatever low level buzz you require. my girl who gets high off a shotgun toke had to hit the thing for 10 min. to even notice.

SnidelyWhiplash said:

I put some of the pg/vg onto a spoon yesterday with some full melt bubble. Heating it up with a lighter and mixed with a toothpic. Then I filled an old working Omi Cart, and put it on my adapted thermovape rev. With 2 second blasts, I was puffing hard and huge.

Taste - nasty as hell - it was the flavored shit - Not my cup of tea, I want to taste my melt

Throat - burning toward the end - probably the too high voltage making it too hot?

High - Fucking pounding headache. BZZZZZZZ try again.


I think we need advice here GV!

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not supposed to add that mixture to an omi cart. supposed to use it with their (or any other 510 pen) carts. omi if for straight oil only.

jambandphan03 said:

OK, so that was a failed experiment. Even after soaking all night, the iso oil just won't mix with the VG. I am wondering if the PG mixes better because it is closer to the properties of alcohol than VG. That must be why it is working for some of you, at my best guess. I can't use PG, tried many times with the same results. My body just doesn't like it. No big deal, wasn't a huge loss, just thought I would give it a shot and share this so other people don't make the same error. If you do want to make a VG/THC liquid, follow the directions to making VG cannabis tincture (slow heat process not the cold process), I think I found some good directions on GrassCity or one of those med forums. Mine took a 2 week process, heating, filtering, and I even spun it in a centrifuge to get more of the waxes and solids out to make it as clean as possible for e cig use, but still after cramming as much THC as I could into my VG (used bud, kif, and some hash to make it) it still didn't provide a very strong effect when used in as e cig juice... I suppose if you are a super light weight, it would be awesome. I am glad we have omicron carts, and my little hash hitter to use.

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i believe they won't actually "mix" but the pg acts as a carrier. heat agitate and pour immediately. from what i read anyway. mine came filled so haven't tried myself

Bob Loblaw said:

not supposed to add that mixture to an omi cart. supposed to use it with their (or any other 510 pen) carts. omi if for straight oil only.

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Of course not, but this was in the nature of "Fuck it, why not?"

Cart was sitting there, nothing im doing should result in anything but a useless cart. So call me a frickin pioneer, hehehehe

And, as I said, it was firing hard! Like dense clouds...

SnidelyWhiplash said:

Of course not, but this was in the nature of "Fuck it, why not?"

Cart was sitting there, nothing im doing should result in anything but a useless cart. So call me a frickin pioneer, hehehehe

And, as I said, it was firing hard! Like dense clouds...

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Bob Loblaw said:

as i like to support companies that do good things, i bought the DA. supplying the unlocker (which was unbeknownst to me at the time), the swiss army approach, this was the reason. i have ordered many batteries from many different companies and this was the only one that DIDN'T come as described, unlocker or no. i posted the link for the 25 dollar version of this pen earlier, here it is again. from a different co. http://www.ecigbestsave.com/eGo-510-Variable-Voltage-Passthrough-p/ac pass ego-fslash-510.htm
as to comparing $70 to $100. that $100 "inferior pen" also came with a decent case (low end $12 - high end 20) a usb to wall adapter (low end $6 - high end) a comparable usb cord (honestly both sucked) and threads guaranteed to work. also cound have bought a cheaper 510 and just the thread unlocker elsewhere if i just wanted my needs met, however i like to give my money to companies trying to do good things, like the upcoming hammer and battery/cart tester. and whose products work and come with what they are described to come with. i figured this product was gonna be what it ended up being sans the missing cone, shitty box, and adapters. those are why i am really pissed off. and if you think $10 for an oil cart that really works is too much feel free to keep vaping your gman carts to get whatever low level buzz you require. my girl who gets high off a shotgun toke had to hit the thing for 10 min. to even notice.

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what about the pen itself didnt come as described? mine came exactly as described. it works perfect and holds its charge for over a week.

if you really think that Delta is doing you such a favor then thats cool. offering adapters to adapt other MFG carts to their pens, but not vise versa tells me they are in it for themselves first and foremost. but the Omi carts are the only ones of their kind for straight oil and why i will use them. i still say $10 a pop is pricey, but whatevs. no need to get upset and start talking about how i "require a low level buzz". as ive stated before im only using the WM cart until it runs out. this is because it does not provide the level of medication im looking for, however saying that your not getting anything at all from 10 mins of use sounds like something is wrong. i feel effects right away... even if they are weak, they are there. FWIW i am no light weight.

also, the eGo you posted isnt even a battery. its for use ONLY with USB cable attached. and it cannot be used with a USB/AC adapter. so not the same as the Gman pen.

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This is not a battery.
It must be used and only can be used on a computer USB Port and can't be used with universal AC-USB adapters.

My home made thc/vg is about the same, a few puffs and you might feel a slight buzz, 10 mins of puffing you start to get the body buzz, not so much head buzz... to most of my friends that tried it, they said they felt it, but it was nothing compared to smoking or vaporizing herb straight. I used it as more of a maintainer, when I was out running around and couldn't take smoke breaks, a few puffs on my e liquid would prolong the effects from medicating proper. I was not making oil concentrates at the time I made the thc/VG mix I have so I didn't get to experiment with it until now.

2clicker said:

what about the pen itself didnt come as described? mine came exactly as described. it works perfect and holds its charge for over a week.

if you really think that Delta is doing you such a favor then thats cool. offering adapters to adapt other MFG carts to their pens, but not vise versa tells me they are in it for themselves first and foremost. but the Omi carts are the only ones of their kind for straight oil and why i will use them. i still say $10 a pop is pricey, but whatevs. no need to get upset and start talking about how i "require a low level buzz". as ive stated before im only using the WM cart until it runs out. this is because it does not provide the level of medication im looking for, however saying that your not getting anything at all from 10 mins of use sounds like something is wrong. i feel effects right away... even if they are weak, they are there. FWIW i am no light weight.

also, the eGo you posted isnt even a battery. its for use ONLY with USB cable attached. and it cannot be used with a USB/AC adapter. so not the same as the Gman pen.

Note:
This is not a battery.
It must be used and only can be used on a computer USB Port and can't be used with universal AC-USB adapters.

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this one is http://www.texasselectvapor.com/variable-voltage-ego-passthrough-battery/ , as i said search variable voltage ego passthrough, these aren't rare or expensive. what about it wasn't as described was once again no longer cover no 2 different style carts, no working adapter, as described. not knockin' your levels, but otherwise can't figure out why you defend such a crappy product. oh yeah, you got freebies

Hey Bob.. We all got it you are not happy .. with you order.. I am sure you will get a refund.. Same was the case with many other new vapes.. on the market.. Omicrons/Persei,TVs, also had their defect products and messed orders .. but they covered everything up with freebies,replacements and stuff.. (as IMO GV would do to..).
Next time first wait for other guys to try a product if you can't swallow up the disappointment.. You will save both on Time... Money and Nerves
We got your opinion on the product.. so lets not turn this thread.. on telling what's black and white. We have taken in account the few negative posts in this thread.. Personally i like the GV business idea and will buy a unit from them once more thread unlockers are aviable and more brands batteries are tested ..
Till then let's not obscure the full spectrum of the truth.. with the color of your experience.. Let other be happy with their purchases..
For the time being here.. i haven't being scammed by nobody who took part at the forum... And you will see that most threads contain posts of generally happy users or one's seeking help in order to get happy.. I got a MW from Hippie - Kickass vape (prolly the best wand/party/powerhorse vape i tried)
I got UD from Dave which is my favorite vaporizer sofar.. and daily driver
I got full set of Gnomes from Calen.. a very nice guy and a pro - making custom glass and awesome clean airpath all glass vaporizers.. And i got in the mail Supreme V2 now.. from Ed .. and i bet i will be as happy as with all my other products..
The key to successful vaporizer experiences is the research on opinions and info available ..

Bob Loblaw said:

not knockin' your levels, but otherwise can't figure out why you defend such a crappy product. oh yeah, you got freebies

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haha real nice. it has nothing to do with anything free i got from Gentlemans.

i guess it depends on what part of the product is crappy. the cart? i can certainly understand FC users thinking that. the pen itself on the other hand isnt crappy at all. again im NOT defending the WM cart. i am defending the DA pen which works perfectly and is a better choice than the Omi IMO. im defending it because i feel its getting a bad rep only because either the MFG did not include what they said they would, or because people dont like the WM carts. neither of those reasons have anything to do with the performance of the DA pen itself. its a great pen period.

all i can say is dont buy a DA if your in it for the adapter or the carts. i thought this was a given on this forum...? if your looking for a great pen that can run any cart on the market then the DA is a great choice. i was unaware of the other pens available that are the same. sounds like they are equally as good and also better than the Omi.

Well, I have given my second "medicated" cart a go for several hours today, and I have concluded that there is either zero medicine in my cartridges, or not enough medicine to feel any effects whatsoever. I'd like to think that my tolerance is just too high, and that they (online THC cart distributor "goddessdelivers.com") sent me an honest product filled with honest THC, but the skeptic in me is screaming "scam" in the back of my mind.

I had a friend (with very low tolerance) try it for a while, and he gave up on it, too. He just complained about the shitty taste, and the burning sensation in his throat. No effects were noticed by either of us after dozens and dozens of pulls over a 2-3 hour period.

Hopefully all is not lost. I will buy an omicron cart and some pure gold capsules and I have better expectations with that.

If you are a medical user, and want a way to medicate on the go, this product (with the glycerin mixture) is NOT for you IMO.

Overall rating: 0/5

i get it, this guy keeps telling me it's my fault for "buying it for the adapter" which i expressly didn't, i bought it to support a company that would supply them and try to be swiss army style. abysmal, not trying to harp, just defending my opinion which keeps getting attacked by 2clicker. just a warning to all. have made the same argument which seems to keep getting blown by so i'm done goin' in circles. that's it i'm out.

Bob Loblaw said:

i get it, this guy keeps telling me it's my fault for "buying it for the adapter" which i expressly didn't, i bought it to support a company that would supply them and try to be swiss army style. abysmal, not trying to harp, just defending my opinion which keeps getting attacked by 2clicker. just a warning to all. have made the same argument which seems to keep getting blown by so i'm done goin' in circles. that's it i'm out.

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i have not once attacked you in any way. im truly sorry if that is what you believe. but honestly if anything, you were the one giving shots.

my posts are based on the fact that the DA pen (the part that is not disposable) is getting bad mouthed by people who werent satisfied with the accessories that came with their kit, or that they dont like the disposable carts. this has zero to do with the functionality of the DA pen.

all i am trying to do is let others know that are reading this, that the DA is fantastic. and it is. the carts on the other hand... not so much. but its unfair to say "the Double Agent is crappy" because you dont like the disposable carts.

People are also upset about missing adapters and advertised accessories which never shipped, 2Clicker. Also finding out that your new vape is basically just a stock e cigarette is disappointing; while the one Bob found isn't the exact model, having no battery, I'm sure a little more digging would find one. Kinda makes you just spend your money on a Rev.

Not to mention the legality of sending carts through the mail to unverified users.

charliedontsurf said:

People are also upset about missing adapters and advertised accessories which never shipped, 2Clicker. Also finding out that your new vape is basically just a stock e cigarette is disappointing; while the one Bob found isn't the exact model, having no battery, I'm sure a little more digging would find one. Kinda makes you just spend your money on a Rev.

Not to mention the legality of sending carts through the mail to unverified users.

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Yes, 5 minutes and I found many.

http://www.timeeast.net/900mah-vv-variable-volt-usb-batterypassthrough-p-430.html

http://vaporsupplies.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=346

charliedontsurf said:

People are also upset about missing adapters and advertised accessories which never shipped, 2Clicker. Also finding out that your new vape is basically just a stock e cigarette is disappointing; while the one Bob found isn't the exact model, having no battery, I'm sure a little more digging would find one. Kinda makes you just spend your money on a Rev.

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the omicron V1 was a stock ecig and nobody complained about that (unless i didnt see it). but i do now realize that there are e-cig options that are as good anything else.

and i understand the frustration with not getting the advertised adapters and accessories as i was one of those users. but my DA works to perfection and i will be rocking my Omi carts on it before the weekend. as soon as i can find time to make some errl.

the rev is cool, but too expensive IMO.

I too got my DA yesterday, and share most of your frustrations thus far.

Yes, this is the same Ego battery (510 thread) that you can find for $25 bucks anywhere. It is functional, to a point... I'll touch on that in a minute, but so far it works... just okay. I AM digging the passthru, and the usb adapter, which while not state of the art, serve its purpose just fine.

I also received one sealed widowmaker cart which tastes like straight VG. I'm not convinced it's medicated at all, as I was unable to feel any effects... but the same could be said for the "pure thc oil" cart that came with my atmos. Maybe this stuff doesn't work on certain people, or it could in fact just be a wash. I know I won't mess with them again.

Can't speak for the smaller GDP carts you guys received. Mine only came with the WM. I'm also a bit confused on what to do with these drip tips (metal and plastic), as they fit neither the WM, or my omicron carts. Seems like a senseless inclusion if you ask me.

The adapter, however does work fine with my omicron carts. Maybe I got lucky here. It makes a tight fit, and they stay put when assembled. I also like being able to ramp up the voltage to 4.2, even if it does take a toll on the omi cart.

My order was also missing the discretion cone, any other carts (besides the WM), and the "special" drip tip as mentioned previously.

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My biggest gripe so far is that my DA pen will not stay put in 3.7 volts "purple" mode. I can take about 2 or 3 short drags, 5 seconds on/2 off, at which point it will start blinking red (3.2), ramps itself back down, and shuts off automatically. This happens damn near every time, fully charged, plugged in or not, which actually makes it very difficult to get a standard drag from 3.7 mode without fighting the damn thing. WTF?! Is anyone else having this problem?

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What you have to understand guys, is that these batteries are all pretty much the same... modified, or knockoff ego batteries. You'd likely pay much less by purchasing all this stuff separately from a reputable dealer. I was initially impressed with GMAN's supposed mission statement, and resented how certain companies continue to take advantage of customers by monopolizing a threading, so I was willing to give them a chance. A chance I unfortunately now regret.

We'll see... it'd sure be nice to get an official response from the company. The fact that this is taking so long doesn't exactly bode well for their customer service either. Writing this one off as a loss.

Can't speak for the smaller GDP carts you guys received. Mine only came with the WM.

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I spoke of a GDP cart. Sorry for the confusion but I was referring to the strain (Grand Daddy Purple) that that particular cartridge was supposed to be infused with.

My order was also missing the discretion cone, any other carts (besides the WM), and the "special" drip tip as mentioned previously.

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My order was missing this part as well.

My biggest gripe so far is that my DA pen will not stay put in 3.7 volts "purple" mode. I can take 2 or 3 short drags, 5 seconds on/2 off, at which point it will start blinking red (3.2) and shut itself off. It happens every time, fully charged, plugged in or not. This actually makes it very difficult to get a standard drag from 3.7 mode without fighting the damn thing. WTF?! Is anyone else having this problem?

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My unit does this exact same thing as well. Frustrating to say the least.

The adapter, however does work fine with my omicron carts. Maybe I got lucky here. It makes a tight fit, and they stay put when assembled. I also like being able to ramp up the voltage to 4.2, even if it does take a toll on the omi cart.

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I just ordered some omi carts online, so hopefully my adapter works and this can be a silver lining of an otherwise regretable purchase.

thank you all for your support on this issue. didn't feel like i was being unreasonable. i am not mad at the pen or calling it crappy (others here have done so for me) that was bitterness, agreed. however my issues aren't unwarranted. also you must remember that i ordered the adapters by themselves originally. after getting an in store credit as refund and being told that i would still get the adapters sent out for free, decided to spend my in store credit on a DA. never got my adapters and wrote it off as it hadn't cost me anything and i would be receiving them again with my DA anyway. i still haven't gotten an email from them over this issue. the quality of the pen is debatable, the rest isn't. you may not think this irritation to be reasonable, but i feel your defense of them to be as well so let's call it a draw. nothing personal. it's about the product. i honestly don't care about the pen (can't even find the stupid thing) or the dough, as nether is an issue for me, fortunately. but i am irritated to not have the unlockers and the other issues previously mentioned which indicates to me that i gave my money to a crappy company. this irritates me more than not having the unlockers. all of this did give me the justification that i needed to call them out on this ego rip-off. many people did complain about the proprietary thread for the omi, which is why G-man prolly got any attention in the first place, they sold the unlockers. however, Delta makes a cart that no one else can, they are working on things no one else is so i had no prob overpaying for their ego rip-off. i bought the new one as well (wtf do i need 3 pens for, much less a fourth?) and i loooove my persei. (which g-man is quickly trying to copy.) as many have said here; this DA would be useless without an Omi cart.

Regarding putting a VG based tincture in an Omi cart: DON'T! When heated to a certain temperature (i wanna say 280c) VG turns into acrolein, a toxic and highly irritating substance, this may be why it resulted in headaches and shitty taste

SF Giant said:

Regarding putting a VG based tincture in an Omi cart: DON'T! When heated to a certain temperature (i wanna say 280c) VG turns into acrolein, a toxic and highly irritating substance, this may be why it resulted in headaches and shitty taste

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thanks for that valuable piece of info. if gman is makin a 7.4v model, what are they gonna put in their cart to use?

I hope G has a comment on the lack of deliver of products. Can someone post some videos of DA in action, I do like the concept of being able to choose what ever cart I want. I do not think this pen is powerful enough for straight herbs but the waxes and juices shall do fine.

I hope for standardized threading but I understand why manufacturers do not want the additional competition. Thank you G for introducing this concept to the market and I hope for your success.

Hey Guys! If anyone has any issues, please do not hesitate to chat us up on the website or send me a private message. Of course if things are missing we will send them to you and make up for it. we are not some faceless corporation - just a few people working hard to make good products that are easily accessible. Yes - a few people have had problems with the thread adapter. however a lot of people have not - in fact the majority of people have had good experiences. But we hear you loud and clear: some people are reporting their thread adapters are not 'long enough' to hit the center pin. For all those people, and other orders going forward, we have added 3 more threads to the adapter to make it longer (also, some pens, like the double agent, do have a moveable center pin, that using tweezers you can bring up) and we will send them to you the second they are in at our cost.

Also please note that when you compare our kits to a single battery on a vapor store, it doesnt take into account that this is an entire starter (ask the people who received theirs, there are a lot of things included that are not just a battery, hehe) which for 60$ is not outrageous in even the e-cig world, and includes a lot of unique accessories like the RX thread adapters. also our products are backed by lifetime warranty which is a lot more than any of those companies will do for their single battery products that are perhaps a buck or two cheaper.

Please do not hesitate to contact us with concerns. We have a lot of stuff going on right now with the site (moving to new payment processing, etc) so it might be more than 30 minutes to get a response but you will get one

Julie

Bob loblaw, writing back to your email, Stu - please write privately, we will of course send you a new unit. what you're describing is definitely not good, and aside from one person from a brick and mortar purchase, these are the only 2 accounts of it i've heard: we wont hesitate to swap them out - just write us. It's just hard to keep on top of our site, emails, chat, and then also all the forums out there and threads hehe

XO
J

When will you guys be restocking on the 510->RX adapter (is this the one for to insert the omni carts onto a 510 thread pen right? just want to double check)