The WISPR vaporizer

tetrahydrocannabinol said:

yay, my WISPR stopped igniting last night.
Have tried to empty and refill it a couple of times and still nothing.
Guess I have to make another call to O&B..

Sucks to go back to combustion..

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Yeah same thing happened to me. Luckily you wont be out for over a month like I was. Just got my pumpkin wispr back from iolite today. Came with an extra mouth piece. Which I believe should come standard.

My back up came in at the same time as well. MFLB thanks to another forum member!

Glad to see the MFLB made it so fast! Its great with kif. Hope you love it! Nice Whisper too!

Hey everyone, extremely new to this forum but it seemed informative. My wispr recently stopped feeding butane through the system, I have tried to "purge" the system by letting all the butane out and letting it sit, multiple times. Still no avail. =( It will not put any gas into the system so there is no hissing or no ignition. This is rather disappointing being I have had it for just short of six months. They seem really good with their customer service, wondering how/what was the easiest way to send something like this overseas for the warranty and such, just clean the shit out of it? or send it without the bowl. Will they tell me all of this, and was this when the defective ones were around, (about september of 2011)? It just really sucks being out 275 dollars for a cool looking box, so hopefully I can get this damn thing vaping again, any help or information/tips or tricks is GREATLY appreciated. Thank you in advance!

yeahivape said:

Hey everyone, extremely new to this forum but it seemed informative. My wispr recently stopped feeding butane through the system, I have tried to "purge" the system by letting all the butane out and letting it sit, multiple times. Still no avail. =( It will not put any gas into the system so there is no hissing or no ignition.

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OK, here's my 'take' on the Iolite (I don't have a Wispr but the idea is the same). Liquid or gas phase fuel (either one, depending) is available to the demand valve when the control valve allows it (you turn it on). The demand valve has a very tiny aperture in it such that all it can pass is vapor (any liquid that makes it that far has to boil on the spot as the pressure drops as it goes through the aperture. It can't be liquid at 'room pressure and temperature'. Normally the demand valve snaps open and closed using a deadband of perhaps ten degrees (?), the point being it's open full or closed. The actual gas flow may lag the valve a bit as the pressure bleeds down but it generally is on or off. Temperature is controlled by duty cycle.

So much for the ideal. In the real world, the fuel is not pure. Not only is it a mixture of similar hydrocarbons (AKA old dead dinosaurs) but it's a great solvent (which is why guys make hash with it). There's all sorts of dead dinosaur and other stuff potentially in there, the stuff that leaves the deposits on the mirror when you do the mirror test amongst others. Normally it all burns. Normally it gets washed through the system by the huge volume (relatively) of solvent. Just like the lime and other minerals in your tap water.....

Only, like the lime and minerals, conditions can cause the dissolved stuff to condense out. Unfortunately I figure it's in our valve, specifically the aperture itself that the mischief happens. Once the deposits form, it's near impossible to remove them. What I found worked in my case (I foolishly used cheap fuel.....) was dumping the bad gas in the normal fashion and filling it up with the good stuff. I then left it 'on' on the patio overnight. It didn't light of course, and I couldn't hear gas flowing but it was empty the next day. This was in summer and I left it in the afternoon sun since Butane pressure goes up quickly as it gets warmer, I doubt it would have worked at low temperature. A while later I had occasion to use my backup unit (since given away) which had been stored filled for a while. It sputtered and didn't seem happy so I shut it down, let it cool, then opened the valve again and let it run down I bleieve washing the varnish or whatever it was away in the process.

I could easily be all wet, of course, but it's easy and cheap to try. And like chicken soup, 'can't hurt, might help'. Good luck.

OF

So this new mouth piece that came, is slightly different than the old one and definitely has much improved air flow. The ABV was much darker. The screen in the mouthpiece is able to rotate.
Is my old one just junked up or is this new one an upgraded mouthpiece?

OF said:

OK, here's my 'take' on the Iolite (I don't have a Wispr but the idea is the same). Liquid or gas phase fuel (either one, depending) is available to the demand valve when the control valve allows it (you turn it on). The demand valve has a very tiny aperture in it such that all it can pass is vapor (any liquid that makes it that far has to boil on the spot as the pressure drops as it goes through the aperture. It can't be liquid at 'room pressure and temperature'. Normally the demand valve snaps open and closed using a deadband of perhaps ten degrees (?), the point being it's open full or closed. The actual gas flow may lag the valve a bit as the pressure bleeds down but it generally is on or off. Temperature is controlled by duty cycle.

I could easily be all wet, of course, but it's easy and cheap to try. And like chicken soup, 'can't hurt, might help'. Good luck.

OF

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Good explanation as to why only use 5 times filtered fuel, (which I was [vector]). I just set the Wispr out back in the sun on my patio table with the switch all the way down/on. We shall see if that works (I doubt it) if it does not, is it a pain in the ass to send them to Ireland? and does it have to be super clean?

is it a pain in the ass to send them to Ireland? and does it have to be super clean?

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They have a service facility in the US. You can also check with the dealer you bought from. Mine broke down with the 'fast butane leak', and the dealer I bought from had his distributor replace it.

Just do a good cleaning with ISO. They don't expect a perfect vape, just a thorough cleaning.

Greetings, I have had an Iolite for years and I have finally got the Wispr to compare it with.

The Iolite I have has never had any problems. However, with the Iolite I feel that it runs a bit cool. Good for cookies from the AVP but vaping for myself is never a really satisfying experience. Thin vapour and patchy colouring, but it does reasonably well as a portavape and has been constantly in service.

Unpacked the Wispr filled it up... it started first time. Very familiar sound from the product highlighted what is an ill conceived name it is. This Wispr runs hotter and supposedly more efficiently than the Iolite which as desired, produces a more visible and a possibly more potent vapour. Seems that the additional heat that i'm experiencing has solved a few of the performance problems. Externally I find it no hotter than the iolite to hold.

The Wispr AVP is a nice used brown colour compared to the iolites light green. Getting baked with the wispr is a much quicker affair than with the Iolite and consequently the product in the Wispr bowl is exhausted at a quicker rate.

I like the shape of both Iolite and Wispr... Iolite is more pants pocket friendly than the Wispr. The Wispr is stable on a table and discreet and will fit nicely into a jacket or coat pocket.

The fuel gauge is a very welcome addition.The Wispr has been running 75 minutes so far and is a sliver below half full. I never get more than 45 minute from the iolite. Less refilling is welcome.

I think this upgrade is worthy and I consider the improvements to be of enough consequence to justify the expense. The noise doesn't bother me at all because I knew what to expect and the long portable use time more than offsets this minor drawback. A great thing... A Wispr, a can of gas, some herb and beer with a few friends and your set with minimal mucking about. Last but not least it does what it is designed for. Peace my brothers.

Glad you're pleased with the new O&B offering. I like the fuel window too. I think it's the best new feature. The wispr does run hotter, but personally, the iolite does fine IMO, especially when it's been on for 10 minutes or so. I like to hit it after a couple of minutes, for taste if nothing else, but I do think the temp goes up some on this design after it's been on for a while.

Thin vapour and patchy colouring

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I think it's only thin in comparison to vapes that are designed for bigger hits and hotter temps, but the wispr definitely runs hotter. As for patchy coloring, I've never seen that in 3 1/2 years of iolite use, assuming the bowl is really finished. My iolite ABV is always a uniform brown. I suppose you could pack over .5g in it and have an issue, but IMO that's overloading.

Excellent and very useful review. As a happy Iolite owner, your perspective on Wispr gains in value IMO.

I think it'd me interesting to see if your opinion changes in a month or so of use?

Thanks for posting.

OF

Ratm22 said:

Woohoo I get a new WISPr finally!

"We have received and approved your request for a warranty replacement WISPR vaporizer.
Your order is scheduled to ship tomorrow via USPS 1st Class mail. Tracking will be emailed once available."

Just bought a MLFB atleast I'll have a backup.

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That is nice. I had to send mine back and they shipped it apparently fed ex. And like 12 day ground fed ex. Would have much preferred usps. boo

grimeade said:

i put a drop or two in a bowl of some glycerin tincture and it gives the hits a lot more visibility and definitely increases potency.​

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Increases potency? Really? Hard to understand how. I never tried, of course. Before I do, has anyone else seen this? And why then are we all mixing glycerin in our weed? They add it to tobacco, but for moisture control AFAIK.

OF

OF said:

Increases potency? Really? Hard to understand how. I never tried, of course. Before I do, has anyone else seen this? And why then are we all mixing glycerin in our weed? They add it to tobacco, but for moisture control AFAIK.

OF

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I haven't done glycerin but I have done other concentrates. It increases the cloudiness for me. And obviously adds an extra kick. However, I do think it kind of gunks up the works.

jeff said:

I haven't done glycerin but I have done other concentrates. It increases the cloudiness for me. And obviously adds an extra kick. However, I do think it kind of gunks up the works.

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For sure it will gunk up some things well.....

OTOH, it's basically a sugar, not the least psychoactive. That's what's got my attention. It's used as a carrier, but without the THC in there it's just warm most air and some useless vapor.

OF

A glycerin tincture often means this- www.thecannabischef.com/content/glycerin-cannabis-tincture - and that would definitely boost the potency. Glycerin alone would just add to the vapor output.

max said:

A glycerin tincture often means this- http://www.thecannabischef.com/content/glycerin-cannabis-tincture - and that would definitely boost the potency. Glycerin alone would just add to the vapor output.

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Understood. They would be tinctures then, not just 'glycerin'. But (having tried it....) those tinctures contain a tiny bit of THC per dose really. Far less even it seems as those mixtures (nothing really dissolved) of PG or VG and oil that don't do it for most.

Consider how many drops of that stuff you need to 'get off' then what a small fraction of a drop is in a hit or even a handful of them. Like I said, I tried it with top notch 'heavy CBD' tincture and even added some mint extract to it. Bought 'the right' dual coil carts and all, made a project of it. In the end, even with a 'clean start' I couldn't convince myself it was any more than a fun way to blow 'smoke' around. I got light headed from all the fun, but not the same. The mint was nice. Makes a huge noise inside, blows out huge clouds of vapors and all, just not the right kind.

OF

I don't have any experience with it. Haven't even read previously about anyone else's personal experience with it. From glancing at the procedure it just seemed to be a method for adding some psychoactive to glycerin. CBD though, would be non-psychoactive, providing help for pain and anxiety.

max said:

I don't have any experience with it. Haven't even read previously about anyone else's personal experience with it. From glancing at the procedure it just seemed to be a method for adding some psychoactive to glycerin. CBD though, would be non-psychoactive, providing help for pain and anxiety.

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It's just high CBD, not no THC. It's quite normal taken as intended (you get off), but I could detect neither THC nor CBD in the vapor try as I might. My conclusion was I'd vaped less than a drop before giving up, far less than I'd expect an effect from otherwise. The numbers are just against you here I think.

Better than nothing if it's actually tincture (not just straight glycerin as specified), but in my experience not enough better to get it to work.....unless you really want it to, and believe.....

OF

Hi everyone, I'm new here & new to vaporizers

My girlfriend just got a medcard & I bought her a Wispr to celebrate. It worked great for about a week...until it stopped working at all (wtf iolite?). I called iolite and they said I should send it back to them for maintenance.

What I'm wondering is if we could run into any legal problems sending it back since it's had weed in it? I don't really know a lot about this, but it seemed like it could potentially be a problem, especially if I have to send it out of state (we're in CA). Any ideas?

It should be fine, especially after just 1 week use. Just make sure all of the AVB is blown out and if there's any residue baked on the bowl clean it off with a bit of alcohol. I'd maybe suggest that you needn't send back the mouthpiece- that's the bit that's most likely to be stinky with condensate anyway. If you do want to clean it out again alcohol and a pipe cleaner will help, but I reckon if you sent it off without the chamber/mouthpiece it would be returned back to you with a new one- that's certainly been the case when I've returned my Iolite (4 times now).

Resin shouldn't be anywhere else than in the bowl and mouthpiece because the bowl is completely isolated from other parts of the device. Give it the best cleaning you can do (use iso on bowl and mouthpiece, you can also use hot water on mouthpiece). If it's cleaned that well I think even dogs can't smell a thing.

Where did you buy it from?

Iolite themselves? A reseller?

If you chose 'B' I would say start with them and see if they would be willing to do the swap for you.
I did this with my old Io as well (and a very well respected FC vendor *coughVapeWorldcough*) and it made life SO much easier.

I got to say it is nice that iolite is sending me a new unit. But iolite if you are reading this. Why on earth did you send it via FedEx 10day shipping. Thanks. I am sure a lil first class mail would have been way cheaper and faster. Thanks.

P.S. now i feel like the forum whiners i loathe.

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I got to say it is nice that iolite is sending me a new unit. But iolite if you are reading this. Why on earth did you send it via FedEx 10day shipping. Thanks. I am sure a lil first class mail would have been way cheaper and faster. Thanks.

P.S. now i feel like the forum whiners i loathe.

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My guess is tracking? Lower grades of Fed Ex can be quite competitive for bulk shippers I understand so I doubt that's a factor. But I'd guess tracking or service area (like other countries?) is behind it? They probably want to use a single shipper if possible.

OF