Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer

Why are vapor tubes so expensive? The whip-rippers are about 17 dollars EACH!

gunna have to say- its a pretty darn high quality plastic, and there hand shaped

i imagine its over a 10 step process per tube if you think about it..

thanks tom but is it not possible for the break to be anywhere in the cord, and just replacing the end could be all for not?

My experience is that the tubes are extremely hard wearing and long lasting. With regular soaks in ISO and blowing out avb when the tube is still hot (instead of poking around with pokey tool and accidently dislodging a screen) I imagine these tubes are going to last a very long time. Three months on with heavy daily use and they look the same as the first day i got them.

Just ordered my PD, needless to say...my days and nights are very restless waiting!!

aero18 said:

Why are vapor tubes so expensive? The whip-rippers are about 17 dollars EACH!

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Very labor intensive. I don't remember where in this thread Tom talked about it, but I was amazed at how much went into making them.

Welcome to the forum and thanks for choosing us OwlHigh.

I see you, Aero18, are asking Rick / Aromazap, to copy the PD Whip-Rippers (tm)

Aero, you own a Zap, why come over here and question PD pricing? I bet the Dynamic Duo (MZ/WZ) are working on a copy already. Hmmm what will they call them?
The Vienna Zapper?
The Little Woody?
Follow the leader.

For those who really want to know. We cut FDA, food grade, #5 Polypropylene rod to length, then 3 drilling operations and one internal filling op to make a tube. 7 or 8 shaping operations on each end (the mouthpiece end gets one extra op). And that's just one plastic tube, 20 steps. The 304 Stainless Steel Vapor Tip (not an unknown alloy of brass, containing Lead) comes to us from a hypodermic needle manufacturer in 5 foot lengths and must be cut, ground, de-burred (two steps), dimpled and polished, each and every one. After that screens must be cut and we use two clips in each tip. Then assembly. I count > 30 steps for each Vapor Tube, and that does not include several washing steps (done in batches).

Whip-Rippers (3 pack) are a specialty request, they also come with a screen kit ($10) and a carrying tin. $50 includes shipping and packaging. So about $36 for the three tubes. Same price as our regular tubes.

Jklasd, yes the break could be anywhere in the cord length but the most flexed and most abused part is the last 6". After receiving a 'few' working wall warts with broken cords and plugs, I can tell you that cutting off 6" is all it has ever taken to get juice. But as you say the break could be anywhere, including in the strain relief at the wall wart, depending on how the cord has been treated.

Purple-Days said:

I see you, Aero18, are asking Rick / Aromazap, to copy the PD Whip-Rippers (tm)

Aero, you own a Zap, why come over here and question PD pricing?

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I was hoping that the tubes fit the MZ as well.

Side note: You should probably take into consideration what Durden has said below. Your dismissive attitude discourages me from wanting to do any future business with you. You probably don't care, seeing as you have more than enough supporters and customers, but maybe you should at least be aware of it.

My walwart also died on me today. Seems this is a common occurrence amongst the PD community. Initially I went to a dollar store to buy a replacement after having no success at Wal-Mart. The transformer started smoking while plugged into the wall . Had to unplug it from the wall with a pair of oven mitts and into the trash that went.

My second attempt at replacing my walwart landed me in The Source aka Radioshack. The replacement cost me $35 dollars but I think its worth it to spend more to avoid FIRES! LOL! (The M plug fits perfectly into the PD if anyone else is picking one up from there)

Moral of the story, dont skimp on a replacement it could be dangerous to your health.

I didn't realize the amount of steps making one of the tubes actually entailed, even reading about it before it never clicked that there were 30+ steps to each one. I guess that explains why wooden stems are so difficult to make, guess I'll have to embark on that adventure myself.

On a different note,
How is aero asking someone else to make shorter tubes for use with water filtration any different from when one of your customers asked for the same thing from you?

eLiguL said:

My walwart also died on me today.

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Not to be dense, but what's a walwart ... just in case I ever need to replace mine?

xxoo
Melissa

Melizzard said:

eLiguL said:

My walwart also died on me today.

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Not to be dense, but what's a walwart ... just in case I ever need to replace mine?

xxoo
Melissa

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The wall wart is the AC Adapter. The part you plug into the wall... Called a wall wart because of its ungodly size when stuck too the wall.

Wall Warts are those bumps that you plug into the wall. Power supplies.

Wall warts don't usually 'die'. The cord or plug end gets broken. The shorted wires could cause a further malfunction. Overheated supplies are usually because of an under-rated supply, for the device being used, or a short.

Broken cords and plugs aren't a surprise with the condition of some folks. But ussualy after they have to spend good money to replace a power supply they get a little more careful.

Durden, the Aromazap/Woodeez team, works together as a team. I was just laughing at the way they follow others, and each other.

Sure, shorter tubes are no great development. And there is no secret to making them or even any reason why I would think they shouldn't. It's just amusing. And BTW I don't really care.

I thought of them long before my buddy made the request, hence the name Whip-Rippers. I bet he believes that. The length is to his spec though.

Purple-Days said:

Durden, the Aromazap/Woodeez team, works together as a team. I was just laughing at the way they follow others, and each other.

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You've made some great improvements and innovations to the basic design. Let's not forget our roots though and laugh when others mimic certain traits, as you had done when you first modified your own Aromazap and built another vaporizer upon similar principles.

Missed the PO box yesterday, but go there today. Couple of close guesses, one way off but we are enjoying them all. 4:30 tomorrow is the deadline so we will see if someone can bump Fayette off the heap.

thanks tom, appreciate the answer.

Sure Jklasd. It's a $2.99 gamble, but a pretty good bet. Just make sure the wall wart is warm (plug it in for half an hour, no appliance needed, feel with the back of your hand) to indicate function before spending the money for a plug end.

Yes Aero, all the original credit goes to Bob, who invented and patented the Eterra, and I have repeatedly given him credit. Rick has stated that he copied the Eterra. And the Eterra was still in production when he copied them. All credit to Rick's innovations, the JB Weld Aroma Cup. The square block design. The use of softwood for the bodies.

To get things straight for you. The Eterra was made from hardwood Mahogany (I believe, based on photos). Rick's copy was made from Douglas Fir and Ponderosa Pine, a step backwards, and the complete failure of the Aromazap softwood body (Douglas Fir) led me to replace the inferior chassis with a hardwood body (Myrtlewood). BTW this was after my rebuild of the failed AZ interior wiring. Both of these were done years before the first PD was ever made or even dreamed of.

Yes, I built a vape based on similar principles. The Eterra. No, Aero, I don't forget my roots. Read this thread. Rick is just a middleman in the equation.

Tom you have a great product, but always willing to tweak and improve. We appreciate the innovation.

Thanks, I have been in Inventor mode lately, designing an upside down HE, for use in testing with the Pandora bodies. Fun, engineering. My real hobby. Who cares about where you have been, it's behind you, if you move forward.

Oh yeah, nearly forgot, first thing in the morning we film the laser logo process.
Woot ! ! !
Not sure how it will turn out. I'll keep you all posted. I have never seen it done, and didn't want to jostle his arm while he got the hang...

Tom, I think you should change the deadline from 4:30 to 4:20.

Read my mind Sticks

Since all post cards will be delivered at about 10:30 AM , sure. But, I do stuff by the book, I don't flutter, or fluff.. The PO closes at 4:30, no playing games. I love the views in those post cards...

Here is a pic from today.

Kali got her first free run here today. And another today at the horse camp.She is a big girl now.

That pic looks like a postcard

Glad to hear Kali's running around after stitches out.... I bet she's grown loads!!

Hey Tom, I have a question about the stems\tubes.
I know that the bowl\metal is stainless steel, so would it be fair of me to assume that I can combust using the stem?

Probabaly yes but watch yourself, if youre gonna combust plant in a tube i suggest thats all you do with it. The taste will effect any subsequent vapour hits you take through it.