Discontinued ThermoVape

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CycleAndVape

Member
Just bought a ThermoVape. Haven't tried it out yep but I'm excited!
I'm a little annoyed though that upon ready the manual, I find that there is not in fact a lifetime warranty, as stated on the TV website home page, but only a 3-month to one year warranty.
I plan to be very careful with it though, and read everything before using it, so it should work out fine.
 
CycleAndVape,
jambandphan03

jambandphan03

in flavor country
I believe the lifetime warranty is on the body, and the 3 month warranty is on the heating element
 
jambandphan03,
PB88123

PB88123

Vaporist
CycleAndVape said:
Just bought a ThermoVape. Haven't tried it out yep but I'm excited!
I'm a little annoyed though that upon ready the manual, I find that there is not in fact a lifetime warranty, as stated on the TV website home page, but only a 3-month to one year warranty.
I plan to be very careful with it though, and read everything before using it, so it should work out fine.
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Lifetime warranty on the ThermoVape against manufacturing defects. The ThermoVape heater core has a 3 month warranty, the batteries are a consumable and will need to be replaced eventually.

In the first 3 months I would do everything you think you will do to it. If it holds up you shouldn't have to worry about it stop working from normal use.

I am up to 14 batteries and ended up with 1 dud. It would only last a couple hits when all the others are fine. I took it out of the rotation.
 
PB88123,
Sinclue

Sinclue

OK disagree with me, I can't force you to be right
PB88123 said:
CycleAndVape said:
Just bought a ThermoVape. Haven't tried it out yep but I'm excited!
I'm a little annoyed though that upon ready the manual, I find that there is not in fact a lifetime warranty, as stated on the TV website home page, but only a 3-month to one year warranty.
I plan to be very careful with it though, and read everything before using it, so it should work out fine.
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Lifetime warranty on the ThermoVape against manufacturing defects. The ThermoVape heater core has a 3 month warranty, the batteries are a consumable and will need to be replaced eventually.

In the first 3 months I would do everything you think you will do to it. If it holds up you shouldn't have to worry about it stop working from normal use.

I am up to 14 batteries and ended up with 1 dud. It would only last a couple hits when all the others are fine. I took it out of the rotation.
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How in the hell did you figure out 1 battery out of 14 was bad?

Is there a way to test individual batteries outside of just trial and error, esp if your charger indicates the battery has been charged?
 
Sinclue,
PB88123

PB88123

Vaporist
Sinclue said:
How in the hell did you figure out 1 battery out of 14 was bad?

Is there a way to test individual batteries outside of just trial and error, esp if your charger indicates the battery has been charged?
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Charged up the 2 batteries knowing 1 of them wasn't working right. Tried one at a time with a different battery to see which bowl didn't last 10 hits.

I'm not sure on a special tool to see if a battery is working 100% or not. I stick to trial and error.
 
PB88123,
darkrom

darkrom

Great Scott!
I'm off to hunt for a high capacity charger to charge at least 4, ideally MORE batteries at once.
 
darkrom,
PB88123

PB88123

Vaporist
darkrom said:
I'm off to hunt for a high capacity charger to charge at least 4, ideally MORE batteries at once.
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If there is a bigger charger out I think it would have been found by now. Looks like if you want to charge 4 at once you will need to spend around $28 to get another charger and some batteries. Amazon has something like this.
 
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Lil78

Member
Ok so i got the thermo vape today and im soo dissappointed! I followed the simple instruction but it just doesnt get me high! I charged the batteries already bunch of times, change the herbs ,warmed it up for five seconds...everything! It just get me a tiny tiny bit high..and i took a lot. So. What to do now?am i doing something wrong? Or its just suppose to be so subtle there is no even vapoR coming out?
 
Lil78,
PB88123

PB88123

Vaporist
Lil78 said:
Ok so i got the thermo vape today and im soo dissappointed! I followed the simple instruction but it just doesnt get me high! I charged the batteries already bunch of times, change the herbs ,warmed it up for five seconds...everything! It just get me a tiny tiny bit high..and i took a lot. So. What to do now?am i doing something wrong? Or its just suppose to be so subtle there is no even vapoR coming out?
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Read this and see if it helps.

http://fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?pid=188900#p188900


OF said:
First off, it's not magic. A small load of low grade herb just doesn't have much to offer. Load top shelf bud at five or six times the concentration in and you'll get five or six times more out under the same conditions.

Secondly, the unit does work once guys figure it out, but it does take figuring it out and not expecting it to work the way you want it to. Start with very dry herb, you don't have a lot of excess heat to waste drying stuff off. Grind it fine, you need lots of surface area. Go 'too fine' at first, you can cut back later as you gain skills. Don't sweat battery life until you sort out, change them often until then and keep them charged so that's easy to do.

Think a bit about what you need to do. This is NOT like MFLB, so if you know that one, forget it for now. It's something like VGs, if you know them you're ahead.....maybe. Anyway, think about the heat. You need to let the heat build in the core until it's hotter than it needs to be for the job without pulling any air. This might take 8 or 10 seconds, don't rush it until you understand it. Let it cook some. Once it's hot, start a 'medium speed' draw. You need to move a lot of hot air from the heat core through the bowl to heat the herb. Cool air will enter the side and into the core for heating. You will taste and feel warming air, after several seconds (less when warm) the taste will shift as the good stuff starts, slow down but don't stop the draw looking to keep that level. If it drops off, pull harder (not slack off like MFLB). If it starts to get away, stop the draw (or slow it way down) keeping more heat in the core. Cutting power does no good, the heat is already stored in the core, stopping the air flow is the only handle you have.

As a starting point, I suggest ten seconds of preheat, 15 or 20 seconds of hitting, say 30 seconds of 'key down time' per toke. Expect say 10 or 12 such cycles per charge.

After each hit, mix things up. Otherwise the hot air 'tracks' up through the load every pull overcooking the walls of the track at the expense of the rest of the load. I like to start up by dumping the load in my left palm and crushing/mixing before returning it like I do with the LB. After it's very dry and no longer sticks together, if the bowl's not too full shaking it is enough. Some guys loosen the cap to provide more space, but be careful it can come off.

Remember to put fresh batteries in when you recharge the load.

Hang in there, guys with a lot less going for them than you are using these guys well right now.

OF
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PB88123,
Stu

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
Lil78 said:
Ok so i got the thermo vape today and im soo dissappointed! I followed the simple instruction but it just doesnt get me high! I charged the batteries already bunch of times, change the herbs ,warmed it up for five seconds...everything! It just get me a tiny tiny bit high..and i took a lot. So. What to do now?am i doing something wrong? Or its just suppose to be so subtle there is no even vapoR coming out?
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Read through the thread and you will find plenty of information about technique. There is a learning curve, and a little bit of research goes a long way toward satisfying hits.

Let the unit pre-heat with a slow draw and then take a long hard draw. Mix between hits. If you still get no visible vapor, your unit may be faulty.

:peace:
 
Stu,
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Lil78

Member
Thanks for your teply. Ive been doing what u saying and still no vapor as hard as i take it. But the thing is what exactly do you thnk can be defected in the devie if it looks like the heat is working, i can see its working, so what else can be wrong to work like that?
 
Lil78,
Stu

Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
I keep my unit warm between hits as I believe the unit needs to warm up to give good hits. If you are hitting it from a cold start, you'll have a hard time getting good vapor. If you only take one hit at a time (letting the unit cool down between hits) the unit doesn't get a chance to warm up enough IMO. Try hitting it multiple times in succession. The TV will get noticalbly warm to the touch, and this is when it shines the best for me. I believe there is some heat sink occuring in the bowl with cooler units that limit the vapor production, but that's just my own opinion based on my own observations and assumptions. YMMV.
:peace:
 
Stu,
OF

OF

Well-Known Member
Lil78 said:
Thanks for your teply. Ive been doing what u saying and still no vapor as hard as i take it. But the thing is what exactly do you thnk can be defected in the devie if it looks like the heat is working, i can see its working, so what else can be wrong to work like that?
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I don't think you let it get hot enough, I think that's the common mistake new users make. Have you honestly let it heat for ten full seconds before you start to draw? Let the heat build, you'll need to tap into in later.

Then pull 'medium fast'. Time it for say 15 seconds for a full, complete hit. As the heat is transferred you'll start getting vapor part way into that. Using this technique you should be able to get the part of the load just above the grid in the bottom of the bowl to combust. Not to worry, it's easy to completely clean up after that, no lingering taste issues like with MFLB.

You are using high grade bud, well dried and ground fine, right?

OF
 
OF,
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exmilker

Well-Known Member
OF said:
I don't think you let it get hot enough, I think that's the common mistake new users make. Have you honestly let it heat for ten full seconds before you start to draw? Let the heat build, you'll need to tap into in later.
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its hasn't been easy but after 5 days i can now say i consider myself now ZAMBOO HOOT :ninja: TV master lvl 106985 LOL like OF said that is the common mistake in new users aka me... im tired of my buddies going "wah how u get those clouds" and when i give the TV to them with instructions they still fail to pull big clouds... if any, so just keep at it go slow, i think its almost impossible to com-bust in a TV i've had a hint of char but only because i was pushing to see how hot/denser the vapor could be. all the tips on here are VERY helpful and useful.

im now doing one bowl=1pair of batteries :/ its good that im extracting more efficiently with the TV now but sucks cause now i know how everyone feels about battery life. the TV is a tricky device you cant be lazy with it :( i find it after 2-3 pulled u gotta dump out the load, mix it up and dump it back in with the same pair of batteries and go for another 2-4 rips after that your pretty much done i load another bowl and new set of batteries and start the process over.

p.s. im always getting herb and resin clogging up the holes on my cap piece so i added a screen... i still get the same herb and resin build up but not as often and a lot more easier to clean.
 
exmilker,
sessnet

sessnet

Noob Saibot
It took me about two weeks(?) to finally appreciate, and get, nice clouds.

If it doesn't seem like it's working for you:

Take a break for day, and revisit it the next, with a new strategy. Like:

1. Different Amount in Bowl.

2. Different Size Grind.

3. How hard you pull.

4. How long you pull.

5. How dry the herb is.

6. How much you preheat before you start pulling.

7. How many times you mix it.

There may be more but as you can see it's a lot of possible combinations!!! That's lots of experimenting and things to find out that can work better for YOU, so don't give up until you try a few different things!

-Pete
 
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Soulhunter

Active Member
YUCK!!!! Tobacco flawors i got from Cloud 9 taste like shitt :p (Kentucky, virginia and RY4)
it does not taste tobaco, thats for sure. more like swetty socks or something like that :p

But my coffey flavoring taste realy good :)

I can not stress enough how much i like this device, it is fantastic :)
 
Soulhunter,
SF Giant

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
I got some tobacco flavors a while back from Pink Spot that were actually fairly pleasant, they tasted like a good cigar or pipe tobacco smells when not lit......kinda nice
 
SF Giant,
Bluntcrush

Bluntcrush

Director of Vapor Research Labs™
Soulhunter said:
sessnet said:
How does yours look different, Soulhunter?
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The atomizer screews in to the adapter piece, It is not "lined" with the adapter like in pic
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Yes, mine too. It's threaded differently and rather than having a little space below the engraving, it screws in flush there. Maybe the design was changed. :cool:
 
Bluntcrush,
darkrom

darkrom

Great Scott!
If I want to boil the heater core and the very top cap with the mouthpiece, do I boil it with the delrin on and everything? I'd like to do that today when I get a chance.
 
darkrom,
Peloton

Peloton

Vapes Hard
I leave the delrin on. It can handle it. I boil my core, cap, and mouthpiece in a strainer spoon to keep it from sitting on the bottom of the hot pot.
 
Peloton,
OF

OF

Well-Known Member
darkrom said:
If I want to boil the heater core and the very top cap with the mouthpiece, do I boil it with the delrin on and everything? I'd like to do that today when I get a chance.
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There is no Delrin on the heat core. It screws into the center assembly which has a Delrin sleeve on the outside. Once you pull the core out, you're good to go. I would not recommend boiling the whole assembly, even if you pull the switch. There's too much volume in the airpath to retain water. I boiled the cap with the Delrin cover on it, but pulled the mouthpiece out.

FWIW I did it in stages. I found boiling the core did no good WRT taste (why should it, there's not supposed to be any herb in the area?). I decided a simple wipe with ISO did the same thing faster and easier. The cap I found also wiped clean very well, but debris could get past the holes. A few pokes with a toothpick and a blow out seems to do a good job when cold.

I do it the other way around. I poke the holes, blow it out then take a cotton patch and spray it with a bit of ISO in one corner and wipe out the bowl with one side, the inside of the cap with the other then spray another corner and poke it in the hole from the top where the mouthpiece goes. I usually then run the heater for 5 seconds or a bit more and leave the cap on loose while standing it on end to warm up a bit and evaporate the last of the alcohol off while I change batteries. Then take the top back off and recharge the bowl. I'm back in business within a couple of minutes.

If that doesn't put it right, I'll strip it down and boil of course. But I find that's not necessary for the most part.

The Revolution cartridge I boil more often, but that's because of the low grade concentrates it gets fed sometimes.

Peloton said:
I leave the delrin on.
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Agreed, it's tough stuff. As I said above my issue would be water trapped inside that will have to be evaporated off. All the junk in there with it will then get baked in place with no way to remove it, like hard water deposits.....only worse.

OF
 
OF,
towelieeeee

towelieeeee

secret stoner
towelieeeee said:
Well, you guys have gone and done did it. My first vape on the way... I slogged through every damn post in this thread to see what was up, and have been impressed with Thermovape's interaction with the community as well as the incredibly detailed (to the point of being nit-picky, even ;)) look that everyone here has been giving it. I was about this || close to getting an MFLB when I stumbled across this thread pretty much by accident.

I've got buds with Vapir No2's and VC's (cano), so I'm not exactly "new" to vaping. Still seem to prefer the J high most often, but hoping that the TV is as capable a piece as the crowd here seems to believe it is... and then I can say "fuck combustion" too :)

My overall take on the TV, post-ordering and pre-reception (I suppose you could call these 'expectations'):
- Robustly engineered. Will feel solid and exude "quality" when held and observed.
- Small form-factor. Very discreet, both when traveling and when in use
- Fast to heat up and easy to use without any extreme heat issues - use the "perpendicular" position more than horizontal. (Seems obvious given its convection design)
- Effective. ;)

Now to play what we call the "waiting" game...
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Waiting game over! And very pleased to report that this is a very solid little device. Pretty much exactly what I expected from reading this thread, actually... Similar likes and dislikes as well. It's true, changing the batteries is a small annoyance... but until we get tony stark's arc reactor, this is pretty much the accepted tradeoff for the portable form-factor.

Enjoy the minimalist design. Quite elegant. :)

Definitely a learning curve to using this puppy, even with OF's excellent instructions... but it's an enjoyable process, figuring it out ;)
 
towelieeeee,
sessnet

sessnet

Noob Saibot
Nice one! Good look with your new ThermoVape today, and I hope you get plenty of sleep for tomorrow :D
 
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