Discontinued ThermoVape

fieldred

Member
Saw vapor today using my flash light in the bathroom. No smell I sprayed some dueodorizer and no one knows a thing. My days of sneaking on the side of the house for a smelly dug out are gone and I don't stink of smoke or have thar nasty ptbreath. Nice I'm hooked!:ko:
 
fieldred,

exmilker

Well-Known Member
was wondering how many pulls are you guys averaging per bowl and when do u guys swap out the battery?

A) when it seems to take a little longer for the coil to heat up?
B) wait till its fully dead and wont even switch on?
 
exmilker,

BudBuddy

The Vaped One
I'm getting 7 fairly large pulls now with my current favorite draw method. I shake between each hit as well as a nice 10 second warmup before each time as well. As for the multiple choice it is usually choice A but occasionally B when I am sky high lol.
 
BudBuddy,

BossBrew

Metalhead
exmilker said:
was wondering how many pulls are you guys averaging per bowl and when do u guys swap out the battery?

A) when it seems to take a little longer for the coil to heat up?
B) wait till its fully dead and wont even switch on?
I'd say somewhere around 7-10 hits. I really don't pay attention to the number of pulls per bowl, I just toss the ABV once it tastes spent. I use fresh batteries when loading a new bowl.
 
BossBrew,

pecosthecat

Well-Known Member
Same here. I never remember to count after the first toke or two hits. :ko:

BossBrew said:
exmilker said:
was wondering how many pulls are you guys averaging per bowl and when do u guys swap out the battery?

A) when it seems to take a little longer for the coil to heat up?
B) wait till its fully dead and wont even switch on?
I'd say somewhere around 7-10 hits. I really don't pay attention to the number of pulls per bowl, I just toss the ABV once it tastes spent. I use fresh batteries when loading a new bowl.
 
pecosthecat,

sessnet

Noob Saibot
1 Battery load = a bowl load, once you learn to use it right. The bowl isn't that large.

Messing with my MFLB recently - I realize I need TWO SETS of batteries to finish a MFLB trench, even though you can put more in there. With my MFLB - I usually need to carry a box with the glass stem, battery, extra battery, and MFLB itself.

With a ThermoVape - you get a "cleaner" and tastier bowl. I like to carry my t1 with me now, because there is less smell, and it's one convenient piece.
 
sessnet,

exmilker

Well-Known Member
sessnet said:
1 Battery load = a bowl load, once you learn to use it right. The bowl isn't that large

im 1pair=2bowl, after about 5-6 pulls on the first bowl i find the herb greenish still, i give it a good stir and try to see if i can get more vapor out of it... but nothing. so i am not sure if im doing "it right" but im still able to get the core glowing bright orange after dumping out the herb... so i add in another bowl.

so am im using my t1 to heat up my herb to its full potential? do u get the same greenish tinge to your herb or is ur herb straight brown after?
 
exmilker,

sessnet

Noob Saibot
If I use the Revolution mouthpiece, + coarse grind, I get a SUPER DARK spot in the middle. I can try to take a picture later. However, I can taste it when it gets dark like that - that is my gauge of when it is done. I skip mixing it - since it won't taste that great if one spot was super dark.

There probably is more to be used, if I mixed it around. And, I have not tried using a second bowl on the same set of batteries, because I am usually on-the-go.

I've only been using my TV on-the-go - so I don't bother bringing anything else like extra herb, a brush, batteries etc - since that one bowl is usually all I need!
 
sessnet,
Im luving my T1 more and more everyday. Last night me n seven cousins(8 in total) were cyphering the T1 for the 3rd and 4th quarters of the Superbowl.They say they prefer the T1 over the LB. The only issue is the obvious "hot cup of coffee" grip that you have to master. lol the only complaint from my fam last night was that more batteries were needed. I cant wait for the power adapter
 
mflb_hustler,

darkrom

Great Scott!
I hopefully will have mine today and me and a friend who uses the MFLB and swears by it can give it a go. One session each with our own batteries each time is the plan. Going to see a The Woman in Black...so hopefully it gets me nice and medicated before. You can expect an honest report. Unlike others, if it doesn't work right away, I'm more than willing to put in the time to figure it out. No unrealistic expectations here.
 
darkrom,

DMSG

Member
When is the power adapter expected to come out? That's the only thing preventing me from pulling the trigger on one of these.

Will it also be backwards compatible with existing models?
 
DMSG,

Soulhunter

Active Member
Well, what can i say?
Thermovape guys has not replied to my three last e-mails.
After i tried everything they said and it still wont work, they now dont answer anymore.
A bit disapointed at this moment!
 
Soulhunter,

OF

Well-Known Member
Soulhunter said:
Well, what can i say?
Thermovape guys has not replied to my three last e-mails.
After i tried everything they said and it still wont work, they now dont answer anymore.
A bit disapointed at this moment!

So, how many emails were replied to? Did you exhaust all their suggestions? What was the last step discussed (another test or returning the unit)? They are awfully busy, it took almost a week for me to get a reply from them a week or so back.

Finally, what is the issue? Is your unit defective (I guess a couple of several thousand have been?) or is it a use issue? The huge majority of guys seem to have few if any problems to sort out and rapidly 'fall in love with their T1'. What are the details?

OF
 
OF,

RaK427

Well-Known Member
I don't think you can use different volt batteries without damaging it. I am wondering about aftermarket battery replacements that might be of a higher quality though.
 
RaK427,

exmilker

Well-Known Member
Soulhunter said:
So this piece of garbage suddenly decided not to work any more. Had a session with two friends yesterday, and today it doesent work anymore.

I am not very impressed with this company, first they forget to send out my order, and when they do a vital part of the unit is missing.
And now the heater core stops working after just a couple of uses. I dont feel very safe with only three months varanty.
And not to forget theplastic taste i get (witch once again it seems i am the only one smelling it)
Boiled the unit so it was nice and clean for yesterdays session, but that did not eliminate the taste.
Both my friends also complained about the nasty taste when unit is hot!

Edit: Customer service is super though, so no complaints there.

when i first got my t1, i open it and smelt the bowl in side and gave it a couple dry pulls with the core heated, i did smell a hint of plastic when it was fresh out the jar but after a day it was gone, like OF said, had a few problems trying to get the hits i wanted but after you get the hang of it im starting to love my t1 a little more each day. i have not had any problems with it "not working":D.

only couple things i wish were on the t1 to make it more ideal for me.

bigger bowl - i dont know if any of you guys are daily users but one bowl does not seem to get me where i usually want to be, 1st bowl= feeling it, 2nd bowl= high, 3rd bowl= stoned.

button press for heater core - i get sweaty palms sometimes especially if im holding a warm to the touch device and i find myself sometimes pulling on my t1 without realizing its not on, overall i dont really like the slide switch, to keep a good amount of pressure upwards on the slide switch while vaping is like making me work to get my treat *vapor*, i would much rather have a button but from a durability stand point i can see why the chose the switch.
 
exmilker,

Pcpvapors

Well-Known Member
RaK427 said:
I don't think you can use different volt batteries without damaging it. I am wondering about aftermarket battery replacements that might be of a higher quality though.
I just wondered because I notice after reading through this thread the OEM batteries tend to be a qualm among the reviews. Although the MFLB had the same said about it, so it may be a personal preference.
 
Pcpvapors,

OF

Well-Known Member
RaK427 said:
I am wondering about aftermarket battery replacements that might be of a higher quality though.

What do you mean by 'higher quality'? Have you had defective units fail on you?

AFAIK the specified battery is top of the heap for this use. The TV makers did a lot of research and testing and they're using these guys (750mAh) far outside their specs to get the performance needed. For instance, the same maker's 900mAh units (generally a better choice under the 'bigger is better' banner) are not recommended as they perform worse.

I bet if you can find a rechargable 123 cell with higher energy density and the same or higher peak current abilities TV would be most interested in that information to update their product.

OF
 
OF,

Soulhunter

Active Member
OF said:
Soulhunter said:
Well, what can i say?
Thermovape guys has not replied to my three last e-mails.
After i tried everything they said and it still wont work, they now dont answer anymore.
A bit disapointed at this moment!

So, how many emails were replied to? Did you exhaust all their suggestions? What was the last step discussed (another test or returning the unit)? They are awfully busy, it took almost a week for me to get a reply from them a week or so back.

Finally, what is the issue? Is your unit defective (I guess a couple of several thousand have been?) or is it a use issue? The huge majority of guys seem to have few if any problems to sort out and rapidly 'fall in love with their T1'. What are the details?

OF

Ehm, 8 mails total 3 not answered, i sent the first, you do the math :p hehe
Yes, tried everything they said. Nothing helped. Last he told me to do was to take off the o-ring and se if i could get it further in, the heater that is :p
The main issue is that it stopped working suddenly. :) exactly 14 bowls and then kaputt.
And i had a issue with nasty taste when the unit was very hot. But i am guessing the nasty taste has something to do with why it sudenly stopped working? I dont know.

Last mail i sent them i asked if i should send them the faulty heater.
 
Soulhunter,

OF

Well-Known Member
Soulhunter said:
Ehm, 8 mails total 3 not answered, i sent the first, you do the math :p hehe
Yes, tried everything they said. Nothing helped. Last he told me to do was to take off the o-ring and se if i could get it further in, the heater that is :p
The main issue is that it stopped working suddenly. :) exactly 14 bowls and then kaputt.
And i had a issue with nasty taste when the unit was very hot. But i am guessing the nasty taste has something to do with why it sudenly stopped working? I dont know.

Last mail i sent them i asked if i should send them the faulty heater.

Thanks for the details, while I'm generally pretty good at math, I can't figure out your puzzle. Subtracting 3 'not answered' leaves five. You led, they followed (2). You came back, they responded (2 more). If you sent number 5 and the total is 8 they either ignored your last four or something else is off. No matter, they were responsive.

As to the failure, I doubt it's a heat core issue. There are two elements in there in parallel, the chances of both 'burning out' at the same instant are mighty slim. Troubleshooting theory would point to other areas where a single point failure could explain the status. Like the o-ring issues (backing the switch out) others have seen. Or a switch failure. I assume you've tried other batteries, they sometimes fail to open which would cause what you see. I assume you don't have access to a meter to make some measurements? While I understand questioning the core, I'd suggest including the switch with the return package.

As to the smell, I'm not sure what to say. There just isn't anything in there to smell bad, really. High temperature metal alloy, ceramics, Nickle plated Aluminum. The only 'plastic' piece I saw anywhere near the action is a tiny PTFE button that makes the insulator in the connector in the Revolution. There's a similar piece in the T1 I'm sure but it should be very effectively 'heat sunk' by the switch contacts. PTFE can take a lot of heat, far more than I think it will ever see in that location. I should think if it somehow did overheat and cause the failure, you'd clearly see it on external inspection?

There have been a few guys that reported funny smells early on, but they all seemed to have decided it was their herb. For sure I (and I think most guys) find the unit remarkably odor free.

So I'd request a RMA for the core and switch (if I didn't want to send the whole unit which I'd be inclined to do if I hadn't already taken a meter to it and learned what the problem was). With medium/high confidence the problem was there. If you can borrow a meter, we should be able to 'talk you through' to the fault. To do so we'll need to measure voltage and resistance.

Be interesting to find out what's going on.

OF
 
OF,

RaK427

Well-Known Member
What do you mean by 'higher quality'? Have you had defective units fail on you?

No I don't own it yet, was just curious. Had a few fail with the original set of MFLB batteries and found a nicer rechargeable online.
 
RaK427,
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