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My biggest problem so far: the delrin sleeve over my heater core doesn't even fit anymore. The more I use th e vape the more the middle delrin sleeve fits less. At this point it takes almost no effort to remove the sleeve and when trying screw the heater core back into bottom battery part the sleeve will just spin unless I put pressure on the middle delrin sleeve so that it doesn't spin while trying to screw the bottom battery section in.
 
Futuretvowner,

obelisk

Idiot (no relation to the Savants)
Hey Hempy,

(how the hell are you, ya fuck! Still fickle with them vapes, I see ;-)

Besides the battery, what are your thoughts on this vape? What were the hits like? How efficient is it? How evenly does the bowl vape? Having to stir coupled with such a short battery life doesn't sound attractive to me.

Hope you're doing well, man.

Cheers.
 
obelisk,

sok186

Member
OF said:
I don't think I'd recommend any of these guys for a first vape (mind I don't have a Solo), I'm a fan of the Vapor Genie as a cheaper way to get into it. It puts you in touch with the process, lets you try all sorts of temperatures, gives good efficiency and gives you a good way to 'get your feet wet'. Probably not what you want to hear, but that's my advice.

jeff said:
The vapor genie suggestion sounds ok. It is about $50. I got the WISPR as my first vape and love it. You should think about getting the first iolite, not the iolite original. You can probably find one for $80-90.

Yeah, the thing is I'm super into portability (never even had a bong) and I don't really want to involve butane, so that definitely limits me a bit. Basically brings me to TV, MFLB, Solo in terms of units I've seen recomended. From there I get the sense that convection is preferred to conduction (though I don't really know) which makes me think its between the Solo and the TV. I'd love to be wrong if there's something obvious to everyone that I'm forgetting or mistaken on.
 
sok186,

Chance2Vape

VapulatrixonifierDlx
jeff said:
sok186 said:
My bad. Thought you did. Must have lumped you in with Chance2Vape and BossBrew as someone who's TV I was looking forward to arriving for the sake of getting a Solo comparison so I can go ahead and pick a first vape already.

The vapor genie suggestion sounds ok. It is about $50. I got the WISPR as my first vape and love it. You should think about getting the first iolite, not the iolite original. You can probably find one for $80-90.

My :2c: I can heartily recommend the Solo even before my TV gets here unless your PRIMARY need is ultimate portability and stealth in which case you may want to opt for a different option. As far as relative "speed to vaped" and efficiency is concerned (and the apparently very important "vapor-cloud-ability) the Solo kick ass on my MFLB (though it is waaay more stealthy) and it's actually somewhat comparable to my fave home/desk based unit, the HA 2.2 (the HA is more efficient tho and does produce tremendous clouds)...

I'll definitely give my impressions of the TV and also how it compares to the MFLB and Solo within a few days of receiving it! :)
 
Chance2Vape,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Futuretvowner said:
My biggest problem so far: the delrin sleeve over my heater core doesn't even fit anymore. The more I use th e vape the more the middle delrin sleeve fits less. At this point it takes almost no effort to remove the sleeve and when trying screw the heater core back into bottom battery part the sleeve will just spin unless I put pressure on the middle delrin sleeve so that it doesn't spin while trying to screw the bottom battery section in.

No worries, we'll send you a new one, (Life Time Warranty against manufacturing defects).

Shoot an email to info@thermovape.com, please include your order number. We will send it straight out.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
ThermoVape said:
Futuretvowner said:
My biggest problem so far: the delrin sleeve over my heater core doesn't even fit anymore. The more I use th e vape the more the middle delrin sleeve fits less. At this point it takes almost no effort to remove the sleeve and when trying screw the heater core back into bottom battery part the sleeve will just spin unless I put pressure on the middle delrin sleeve so that it doesn't spin while trying to screw the bottom battery section in.

No worries, we'll send you a new one, (Life Time Warranty against manufacturing defects).

Shoot an email to info@thermovape.com, please include your order number. We will send it straight out.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
I had this problem too for a bit but with some messing with the sleeve it somehow tightened back up a good amount, is it supposed to be able be removed from the heater core section or is it intended to be solidly on there? Mine will still spin a bit from time to time which results in the air inlet holes in the delrin not lining up with the ones in the metal but it's fairly easily adjusted back, just wondering if this is normal or a defective piece?
 
SF Giant,

DVS

Dabologist
Hmm, This is slightly a random question but @TV, If one was to purchase your lovely product from a different retailer, and something goes wrong...Like..oh...say the mouth piece stops fitting :D
Would you direct us to the retailer we purchased from, or can we turn to you. (assuming we at least show you a proof of purchase).
Just came to me when reading your post and you asking for a Order number, which if I purchased from elsewhere I wouldn't have that.
Thanks!
-DvS
 
DVS,
ThermoVape said:
Futuretvowner said:
My biggest problem so far: the delrin sleeve over my heater core doesn't even fit anymore. The more I use th e vape the more the middle delrin sleeve fits less. At this point it takes almost no effort to remove the sleeve and when trying screw the heater core back into bottom battery part the sleeve will just spin unless I put pressure on the middle delrin sleeve so that it doesn't spin while trying to screw the bottom battery section in.

No worries, we'll send you a new one, (Life Time Warranty against manufacturing defects).

Shoot an email to info@thermovape.com, please include your order number. We will send it straight out.

Cheers,

ThermoVape

It's really not that big of a problem for me to ship it back and lose use of it for a few days while the new one comes ATM but if it becomes a bigger problem I surely will. Thanks for the support. Also is there anyway to change my shipping address from where you sent the device originally because I will not be at that location anymore.
 
Futuretvowner,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
SF Giant said:
ThermoVape said:
Futuretvowner said:
My biggest problem so far: the delrin sleeve over my heater core doesn't even fit anymore. The more I use th e vape the more the middle delrin sleeve fits less. At this point it takes almost no effort to remove the sleeve and when trying screw the heater core back into bottom battery part the sleeve will just spin unless I put pressure on the middle delrin sleeve so that it doesn't spin while trying to screw the bottom battery section in.

No worries, we'll send you a new one, (Life Time Warranty against manufacturing defects).

Shoot an email to info@thermovape.com, please include your order number. We will send it straight out.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
I had this problem too for a bit but with some messing with the sleeve it somehow tightened back up a good amount, is it supposed to be able be removed from the heater core section or is it intended to be solidly on there? Mine will still spin a bit from time to time which results in the air inlet holes in the delrin not lining up with the ones in the metal but it's fairly easily adjusted back, just wondering if this is normal or a defective piece?


The holes in the Delrin do not need to line up, there is a counter bore in the Delrin to unsure airflow.

Check out this video if you haven't seen it yet. Very useful.

ThermoVape Instructional Video

Cheers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
Futuretvowner said:
It's really not that big of a problem for me to ship it back and lose use of it for a few days while the new one comes ATM but if it becomes a bigger problem I surely will. Thanks for the support. Also is there anyway to change my shipping address from where you sent the device originally because I will not be at that location anymore.

We would send you a return mailer or the defective part, we would not require you to send the part to use first.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,
Don't know if this will help your team or not but the delrin only appears to be loose after it gets hot, once the vape cools down the delrin seems to settle back into place for the most part.
 
Futuretvowner,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
OF said:
OK gentle readers, here goes a somewhat less than fully objective initial review of the TV. First off, I have a guy here cleaning the gutters so I filled it up, took a pair of trial hits inside to check it out and once I knew it was going to draw it went outside to wait for the guy to leave.

Turns out he's a cool guy, another 'old hippie' with a 'sometimes when I'm bowling' pot hobby. Let his card expire last year. Never vaped. You know, a pigeon? And here I am with my brand new TV in my pants pocket.... 60 seconds of instructions and he got two HUGE hits right off. Bigger than I think I'll be taking. Coughed big time on the first one, dove back seconds later for another. What dedication. Literally his first ever vape experience of any sort (or so he claimed). So much for learning curves. Since he was a newbie, I went back inside and brought out the Omicron and Iolite. He was interested, took the information down, but refused to try either due to those two hits a few minutes before. Not very scientific for sure, but IMO a very good indication of the potential. I'm stoked to say the least.

Four hits, two guys, still going strong, time to put down for a bit. And my first one was weak 'cuz I drew too hard. Looking at it, there's life in the bowl still. Hard to find fault with that, guess I won't try.

I loaded 1/8 gram of very fine grind, what I normally load in the MFLB. It's fine enough so if you suck real hard (much harder than when you hit it normally) you do get some debris. Not sure it's a big deal. In a funny way it's kind of like a hot rod LB. It takes about 3 seconds to get to heat, but there's lots of heat there if you draw slow enough. No worries about 'I think my box is one of the cool ones'. This one may flog the battery hard, but it gets the required job done. Or so it seems. Clearly more testing is needed, I'm setting up an intensive schedule to that end. No need to thank me about this, I'm happy to do it for the cause.

A word about the construction. While I really like the MFLB for it's cross between slick design and wood and simple materials (kind of gives and organic sort of result that's clearly high tech as well), this one is straight business. Serious business, life and death stuff. Sanitary. The very sort of stuff you'd expect to see in the Doctor's office. Parts fit and work well, finish is impeccable, it has the solid feel of a tool you can trust in your hand and is very natural to use. It just feels tough (and no doubt is), with a new heater or two and some new batteries along the way it could easily last a guy a lot of years. Perhaps a whole 'vaping lifetime'. I would not be surprised if antique ones in the future aren't still in service.....unless the politicians get them.

I'll be glad to answer any specific questions I can, sorry I'm not posting a video for all you peeping tom types. I think more testing is in order, will you please excuse me?

OF

Overdue response, but in my defense I have been doing as I was told and working on the Revolution...

Thank you for the thorough review, very much appreciated from all of us here at Thermo.

Hope it continues to treat you well and we look forward to your coming for the Revolution.

Cheers,

ThermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

ThermoVape

Vaporizer Manufacturer
Manufacturer
DVS said:
Hmm, This is slightly a random question but @TV, If one was to purchase your lovely product from a different retailer, and something goes wrong...Like..oh...say the mouth piece stops fitting :D
Would you direct us to the retailer we purchased from, or can we turn to you. (assuming we at least show you a proof of purchase).
Just came to me when reading your post and you asking for a Order number, which if I purchased from elsewhere I wouldn't have that.
Thanks!
-DvS

Most retailers like to handle there own warranty, they support you because you are their customer and that relationship is valuable, and we support them.

We will not turn our back on any ThermoVape owner, but we would encourage you to contact who you purchased the device from first.

Cheers,

THermoVape
 
ThermoVape,

VaporNinja

Well-Known Member
obelisk said:
Hey Hempy,

(how the hell are you, ya fuck! Still fickle with them vapes, I see ;-)

Besides the battery, what are your thoughts on this vape? What were the hits like? How efficient is it? How evenly does the bowl vape? Having to stir coupled with such a short battery life doesn't sound attractive to me.

Hope you're doing well, man.

Cheers.

Hits are good and tasty, but it does require frequent stirring due to uneven heating inside the herb chamber, which makes it inconvenient to use sometimes. I haven't got a lot of time to play with it, but like other TVaprist said, dry herb is important.
 
VaporNinja,
Loving my TV so far, does everything as advertised. My only real complaint is that when you use stickier herbs small pieces get stuck in between the holes and it has to be cleaned after about every two sessions. Cleaning isn't bad though and I guess it's kind of my fault for the type of herd I choose to use haha.
 
majorpeaches,

wtf848

Well-Known Member
Futuretvowner said:
How can you even compare this to your iolite in efficiency? I can pack a full illite bowl and and see big clouds for 20 minutes and be no where near fully medicated.

you can see big clouds from your iolite? ive used at least five on multiple occasions each and never gotten a satisfying hit ever. certainly nothing more than barely visible. in the end, i did get stoned, but i am hoping the tv would be a significant improvement over something like that. looking forward to seeing the revolution when it comes out, i think thats the only thing that could save me from getting an aromed in the next month or so
 
wtf848,

Gonzo

Slightly Stoopid
After receiving my TV around mid-day I feel I can finally give my initial thought of the vape. First off PIU was excellent to deal with and in addition to the TV I received a 4 piece grinder, a Space Case stash case, 2 small plastic stash jars, a PIU lighter, and a nice case to keep the whole kit in. Great deal for $249 IMO.

Moving on to the TV. Without rambling on let me get to the point. From the time you I saw the packaging and I loved it. It comes nicely packaged with all the accessories you will need to start vaping immediately. The batteries inside the unit were ready to go and the 2 other pairs each took about 5 min to charge(Seriously, I was surprised as well. They must be almost topped off and just need a little extra because after a full bowl they take about 30-45 min to charge).

My first bowl was with finely ground bud that I had for my UD and the experience left much to be desired. I produced small clouds and it just seemed like something was wrong. Pulled out a jar and ground up some fresh material and added a fresh set of batteries. Test 2 produced nice clouds almost as large as those I can produce with my WISPR. Since then I have occasionally produced clouds that can rival the WISPR but still trying to perfect technique to do this consistently (I have found this vape to have a small learning curve. I am getting my technique down though and am thoroughly enjoying doing it :ko:).

Overall I feel very satisfied with my purchase. This vape has definitely taken over my LB's spot as my go to stealth vape and if I can perfect my technique to produce consistent clouds it may take over the role of my full time portable vape (Currently the WISPR).
 
Gonzo,

OF

Well-Known Member
Gentlemen,

I have what is at least for me an interesting insight into our new favorite toy. We've screwed up the classification of this new beast, the Species part is OK but we've put it in the wrong Genus. I guess because it takes a small load on a screen and has a battery for power we put it in with MFLB and Solo?

It belongs with Vapor Genie. The LB and Solo don't even belong together really. They are fairly close to each other in function I guess in some ways, but they're on a whole different branch of the tree than TV. I think the TV is more 'an electrically heated VG'. And while it's simple overall and expensive it's without any apparent faults in quality of construction or failure to meet reasonable design goals. It can be used to generate useful vapor over a surprisingly wide range of conditions. I think it's efficiency is right up with stem vapes like the PD and other champs like the LB. You can get great extraction with very little waste. But like VG, it's going to take some skills to get good results.....even to the point of avoiding disasters like combustion. Then again, so does driving your car in traffic and we somehow master that. And with some few of us actually changing gears without thinking about it in the old fashioned manner at the same time. Some skills are needed, that's all.

I've backed into this view through fiddling with load size. First off, at least with the fine grind I'm using (key I think in the end based on other vapes?), you have to stir the pot somehow. Otherwise, you get a 'track' up the center. I figure it shrinks back some, opening up even more passages, so the hot air flow rate increases there, bringing more production, more shrinkage and so on with ever smaller fleas in the normal back biting fashion until you have charcoal in the center and raw bud in the corners. Stir it a bit from time to time and you can vape the bud any color you'd like in a completely uniform manner. By that standard (uniform extraction), I'm not sure it can be beat. If you think of it as a wok and you're stir frying I think you'll get a mental picture of how that might work. On that theme, I'm also finding a small load (say 20 to the gram?) is working much better than full bowls. Easy enough to cook the first half of that full bowl, dump it and do the second half before changing the battery and it's much easier to deal with that way right now. Testing continues, of course, scheduling enough tests is taking time......

So that's basically my take so far, I put it forward for your consideration. Think of it like a VG with a battery and stitch (and there is a real honest to God switch in there, not some cobbled up thing......) driving a heater rather than a lighter you have to hold in just the right place to heat the 'filter'. IMO it's much easier to control that switch than the output and position of the lighter......and less chance of setting your beard on fire (if that last is an issue to you). However, the 'throttle response' isn't like the LB. More like an airplane than a car, you need to build heat up over time and it changes heat over time: There's a lot of thermal mass in play. Lose sight of that and likely to end up in a ditch somewhere. Keep it in mind until you master the skill and you can motor down the highway enjoying the ride. And quite a ride it can be. You can poke along in the slow lane with very mild hits, or recklessly scream down the road blowing choking clouds and scaring the women and horses. Just like with VG.

There's a lot more to it, of course, some minor details of technique that might interest some, but having got this much out I think it's about time to make some tea and do a bit more research. I'll have to get back to you later, for now it's off to the duty mess then back to the salt mines.......

OF
 
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pecosthecat

Well-Known Member
Nice. High performance machine, then. :D

Looking forward to receiving mine. By the way TV, I haven't received any tracking information, yet.

OF said:
Gentlemen,

I have what is at least for me an interesting insight into our new favorite toy. We've screwed up the classification of this new beast, the Species part is OK but we've put it in the wrong Genus. I guess because it takes a small load on a screen and has a battery for power we put it in with MFLB and Solo?

It belongs with Vapor Genie. The LB and Solo don't even belong together really. They are fairly close to each other in function I guess in some ways, but they're on a whole different branch of the tree than TV. I think the TV is more 'an electrically heated VG'. And while it's simple overall and expensive it's without any apparent faults in quality of construction or failure to meet reasonable design goals. It can be used to generate useful vapor over a surprisingly wide range of conditions. I think it's efficiency is right up with stem vapes like the PD and other champs like the LB. You can get great extraction with very little waste. But like VG, it's going to take some skills to get good results.....even to the point of avoiding disasters like combustion. Then again, so does driving your car in traffic and we somehow master that. And with some few of us actually changing gears without thinking about it in the old fashioned manner at the same time. Some skills are needed, that's all.

I've backed into this view through fiddling with load size. First off, at least with the fine grind I'm using (key I think in the end based on other vapes?), you have to stir the pot somehow. Otherwise, you get a 'track' up the center. I figure it shrinks back some, opening up even more passages, so the hot air flow rate increases there, bringing more production, more shrinkage and so on with ever smaller fleas in the normal back biting fashion until you have charcoal in the center and raw bud in the corners. Stir it a bit from time to time and you can vape the bud any color you'd like in a completely uniform manner. By that standard (uniform extraction), I'm not sure it can be beat. If you think of it as a wok and you're stir frying I think you'll get a mental picture of how that might work. On that theme, I'm also finding a small load (say 20 to the gram?) is working much better than full bowls. Easy enough to cook the first half of that full bowl, dump it and do the second half before changing the battery and it's much easier to deal with that way right now. Testing continues, of course, scheduling enough tests is taking time......

So that's basically my take so far, I put it forward for your consideration. Think of it like a VG with a battery and stitch (and there is a real honest to God switch in there, not some cobbled up thing......) driving a heater rather than a lighter you have to hold in just the right place to heat the 'filter'. IMO it's much easier to control that switch than the output and position of the lighter......and less chance of setting your beard on fire (if that last is an issue to you). However, the 'throttle response' isn't like the LB. More like an airplane than a car, you need to build heat up over time and it changes heat over time: There's a lot of thermal mass in play. Lose sight of that and likely to end up in a ditch somewhere. Keep it in mind until you master the skill and you can motor down the highway enjoying the ride. And quite a ride it can be. You can poke along in the slow lane with very mild hits, or recklessly scream down the road blowing choking clouds and scaring the women and horses. Just like with VG.

There's a lot more to it, of course, some minor details of technique that might interest some, but having got this much out I think it's about time to make some tea and do a bit more research. I'll have to get back to you later, for now it's off to the duty mess then back to the salt mines.......

OF
 
pecosthecat,

Vitolo

Vaporist
I am still finding the lack of video documentation of actual use with herb, disturbing.
It is my hope that one of you who is using your ThermoVape for herbal material will make some type of clear cut video for us.
 
Vitolo,
Wow. You guys were not kidding about the fast shipping. I ordered mine from the Midwest on Wednesday and it's already out for delivery. Will give it a go after work and let everybody know my first impressions. This feels like Christmas all over.
 
goodgreenganja,

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
pakalolo,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
Vitolo said:
I am still finding the lack of video documentation of actual use with herb, disturbing.
It is my hope that one of you who is using your ThermoVape for herbal material will make some type of clear cut video for us.
I tried to make one on my phone today but it sucks, i look like i just rolled out of bed (cuz i did) and its tough to see the vapor in the video.....it's not exactly Citizen Kane
 
SF Giant,

Gonzo

Slightly Stoopid
I tried making one as well but am having trouble producing the consistent nice hits as well as lighting in the new house.

@SF Giant

Can you describe the draw technique you are using to pull big clouds.? Are you using nicely dried buds or bud that is still kind of moist? Which grind have you found to be more consistent for big cloud? Sorry for all the questions but I think you have had this unit the longest and thought you may be able to help.

I will say the device is getting me nicely medicated but I love throwing out big clouds, maybe this is due to years of combustion.

*Edit*
Did another test run with dried buds with much better results to show for it. 3 consistent clouds back to back. Will try to find a place with better lighting and see if I can get a video up.
 
Gonzo,

SF Giant

Reluctant vape collector
Gonzo said:
I tried making one as well but am having trouble producing the consistent nice hits as well as lighting in the new house.

@SF Giant

Can you describe the draw technique you are using to pull big clouds.? Are you using nicely dried buds or bud that is still kind of moist? Which grind have you found to be more consistent for big cloud? Sorry for all the questions but I think you have had this unit the longest and thought you may be able to help.

I will say the device is getting me nicely medicated but I love throwing out big clouds, maybe this is due to years of combustion.
im using pretty dry herb and a fairly fine grind, as far as draw technique i go super slow for the first 10 or so seconds then when i feel the vapor start to heat up i draw a bit faster, looking back at that original video though i dont think i could ever reproduce that guys results, he seemed to heat for 5 seconds then draw (fairly fast mind you) for about 5 seconds and he seemed to get substantial clouds, for me it is closer to heating for 10 seconds and drawing for at least 20 to get anything resembling the hits that guy seemed to get, looking at my unit it seems that the heating coil on mine is way off to one side of the inside of the heater core, looking at the video (shitty quality as it is) it seems that his looks much more centered, i know from having to mess with my SSV that having your heating element just a little off can have a huge effect on how efficiently you are heating the air in a convection system, if there is some varience in manufacturing as to where the heating coil sits in it's sleeve there could be a pretty big difference in how well they work
 
SF Giant,
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