The HI

momofthegoons

momofthegoons

vapor accessory addict
I can see I'm going to be contacting you for one of your one piece glass tubes Alan. :lol: Sigh...you've got to stop making new ones. I have a slight problem with new accessories..... I've got to have them! :lol:
edit to add: Oops, just realized it doesn't work on the TT. I guess I have a slight reprieve then until I get all my money saved to get my HI.
 
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
I will have to see if I can make a HI unit that you just can't resist mom. :brow:
 
Alan,
zmurder

zmurder

Well-Known Member
Vitolo said:
zmurder said:
.. The one on the right is the new one-piece all glass; the bottom is gong tapered while the top fits over the heat exchanger. The one on the left is a standard glass tube with silicon sleeve/bowl. The one in the middle is the only stem I got (this time) from Alan that fits inside the exchanger.
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So I am dying to know as I am sure many are.....
Which roasting tube works best for you?
Do you like inside or outside the heat exchanger... and why? :)
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Good questions, but I'm really not sure yet. I've used the standard glass/silicon external Toasty Tube the most. I'm new to these external stems, but learning quickly! I still like the internal stems a lot for efficiency and ease of use.....but I need to try the external stems with my inline as I believe that's where the style will excel....I'll know my favorite after I've given them all a fair shake.
 
zmurder,
GO!!bot

GO!!bot

Active Member
zmurder said:
Vitolo said:
zmurder said:
.. The one on the right is the new one-piece all glass; the bottom is gong tapered while the top fits over the heat exchanger. The one on the left is a standard glass tube with silicon sleeve/bowl. The one in the middle is the only stem I got (this time) from Alan that fits inside the exchanger.
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So I am dying to know as I am sure many are.....
Which roasting tube works best for you?
Do you like inside or outside the heat exchanger... and why? :)
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Good questions, but I'm really not sure yet. I've used the standard glass/silicon external Toasty Tube the most. I'm new to these external stems, but learning quickly! I still like the internal stems a lot for efficiency and ease of use.....but I need to try the external stems with my inline as I believe that's where the style will excel....I'll know my favorite after I've given them all a fair shake.
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So the stems that fit outside the heat exchanger (the glass and the original silicone) are not as efficient as the more familiar log metal stems? you have to put more stuff in the silicone stems to get a hit? I always thought you could pack more into these stems (underdog has similar I think) if you wanted, but could also be as efficient as older style metal tubes if you wanted to save :|

man so many choices to make before ordering, maybe just order the whole lot of stems to be happy ;)
 
GO!!bot,
hazy

hazy

combustion fucker
Manufacturer
I got some of those UD silicone external stems to use with my PD. I've found them to be more efficient than the standard stems. The disadvantage with them is that it is harder to get a consistent dosage, so I've ended up accidentally loading a lot more than I would normally. With the internal stems there's no need to guesstimate, I get a consistent load every time.
 
hazy,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
Thanks Vito. I have been on a quest for the perfect roasting tube.

After much research, I have concluded that each bowl size has an ideal coverage amount above the screen. The larger the diameter, the more material is needed. A certain amount of heat must be allowed to buildup in the material. If too much material is used, the heat can build too high. Especially if the airflow is not high enough. The higher the heat capacity of the vaporizer, the higher the potential for combustion.
Too little material covering the screen and there is leakage past and not enough heat to the material.
A smaller bowl size will be more efficient for smaller amounts of material.

The nice thing about the HI is that it will accept metal tubes inside the center heat tube as well as the silicone and glass tubes outside of the center heat tube. The best of both worlds.

The turbo tubes do hold more material, but that doesn't mean you have to use it all at once. The silicone end of the turbo tube fits snugly into the green storage cap which seals the material inside. The cap / tube fits right into the poly storage tube to seal it up so there is no smell at all. You can take a hit or two and then save the rest for later. I have even pre-loaded some turbo tubes. It works very well.

I have decided that I'm out of control. lol. I now make over 25 different roasting tube combinations.

Back to the shop for more glass work now.
 
Alan,
C

Canna Hound

Vapor test pilot/glass freak
TV,

The more I look around, the more I need to have a Heat Island... A lot of strong work you do!

Craftsmanship looks amazing, as well as a perfect form factor for use as a Direct Inject vaporizer (TV's MIO tube w/HI vid sold me) like a VHW or LSV; especially resting on my work bench in a state of ready 24/7/365. I love my VHW3.0, but I know it is only a matter of time before I break it, and/or leave it plugged in for way too many days

I can't wait to get one of these little guys(an HI) and those all glass to 14mm adapters so I can just plug this into my tube and play...

Alright, back to work for me.... I'll email you to finalize the order asap

thanks
H
 
Canna Hound,
W

Wolface

Well-Known Member
Is there a website for the HI? and does it still come the with variable voltage power supply?
 
Wolface,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
I have been too busy inventing to do the website yet Wolface. I would have spent all my time updating it with all the new tubes and features. I can supply the HI with a variable voltage power supply. There is just a bit more work and cost involved in making it capable of accepting the variable voltage power supply.

Just finished a small batch of the 1-piece glass turbo tubes plus some other glass work. May need to make some more soon.

Trying to decide if I want to enter the deep backlog mode of sales or sell them as they are made. Both have advantages and disadvantages. Just need to get some more HI units done for the moment.

Thanks Canna Hound. I'm so happy with how the HI has been working. The form factor and weight coupled with high airflow and heat capacity makes it especially good for glass. It does all I need it to do and more.

Back to turning wood now.
 
Alan,
biojuggernaut

biojuggernaut

Snob
Alan what would my money be best spent on the all glass tube or the variable voltage? Will your elbow'd VV fit onto my concept HI? if not I'll just buy my own expensive VV adapter from amazon and just lay the HI down on its side since most of my tables have ledges.
 
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
biojuggernaut said:
Alan what would my money be best spent on the all glass tube or the variable voltage? Will your elbow'd VV fit onto my concept HI? if not I'll just buy my own expensive VV adapter from amazon and just lay the HI down on its side since most of my tables have ledges.
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I would recommend the all glass tube for you. The fit is not as tight as the silicone obviously and allows for some air mixing to lower the temperature. You still need to watch your air flow though. I like to stir the material between hits to always ensure good air flow. The glass can be totally cleaned of any tastes should you accidentally combust. When you drive a fast car, you may accidentally spin the tires.

If you are feeling very adventurous, you can always chop off the white cord for the right angle plug power supply and install a power socket on the end. Then my $20 variable voltage power supply will work on it.
I may have to see about making some of those if I can find right angle plug cords. If I had any failed power supplies, I would just use them. I don't have any failed ones. They seem to be very reliable. Have had some running almost continuously for the last year.

I'm actually needing to do some metal work now before I turn more HI bodies. I have streamlined the process a bit so it should hopefully go faster.
 
Alan,
ilovebOObs

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
Hopefully I will be saying hi to a new HI soon. Glad I was broke for the release, now with the vv and new glass tubes now its even better then ever.
 
ilovebOObs,
T

tuscan tins

Active Member
Halfway there :lol: !

Alan, I read through the TT thread and I gotta say, everything really does look better than ever, you're going crazy with all these tube designs :) !
 
tuscan tins,
W

Wolface

Well-Known Member
Looking for a log vape that will be hotter than my PD or a new Rockzap, This thread has got my attention for sure.
 
Wolface,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
ilovebOObs said:
Hopefully I will be saying hi to a new HI soon. Glad I was broke for the release, now with the vv and new glass tubes now its even better then ever.
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Hopefully, I will have another batch to sell soon. Just finished the metal core tubing work tonight. The heating elements are next. They just thread right in, so final assembly will go quickly.

staticsunn said:
Halfway there lol !

Alan, I read through the TT thread and I gotta say, everything really does look better than ever, you're going crazy with all these tube designs smile !
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Thanks staticsunn. The tube seems to be one of the more important parts of the system. There are so many different preferences too. I'm trying to fill them all. It has been fun learning to work with glass.

A Heat Island may be just the thing for you Wolface. It does provide lots of almost unrestricted hot air. I tried to see if I could drop the heating element temperature by continuously blowing air into the center tube using an empty toasty tube. All I got was a face full of hot air that never got any cooler for as long as I blew into it. The heating element is able to keep up with the continuous airflow since there is so little metal mass to remove the heat from the heating element. Enough heat is always available for heating the air.
The small metal mass is also the reason for the 5 minute heat up time. A small metal mass also does not dislodge when dropped.
 
Alan,
abo27495

abo27495

Well-Known Member
I know this has been mentioned before, but I was reading another thread and now im confused. Does lowering the voltage on the hi also lower the temp? On the underdog thread, they said that the UD will take longer to get up to temp if on a lower voltage but no temp difference. I was under the impression that these all work similarly, but maybe they dont.
 
abo27495,
Alan

Alan

Master JedHI
Manufacturer
abo27495 said:
I know this has been mentioned before, but I was reading another thread and now im confused. Does lowering the voltage on the hi also lower the temp? On the underdog thread, they said that the UD will take longer to get up to temp if on a lower voltage but no temp difference. I was under the impression that these all work similarly, but maybe they dont.
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The temperature is directly related to the voltage applied. A lower voltage will provide a lower temperature. The UD and HI (Zap, PD, and WZ for that matter) use the identical ceramic element to produce heat. The voltage applied (with sufficient amperage) will determine how much heat is produced. The higher the voltage, the faster it will get hot and the hotter it will get. The HI does an extremely good job of transferring that heat to the air.
 
GhostVapor

GhostVapor

Well-Known Member
Hey everybody! So Ive had my tall purple HI unit with the variable voltage adapter for just over two weeks now. Hands down this is the most powerful log vape i have ever tried! With its unrestricted airflow, ability to change temp, Range of tube options, removable heating element and compact size. For me, make it the perfect log vape! I mainly use it with water filtration, Mini CRZ tube at just over half power when I'm trying to conserve and mini turbo tube at about 3/4 power when i want an ass kicking rip. I'm not the greatest at taking my thoughts and expressing them in writing, simply put I fuckin love this thing! Honestly I'm surprised this thread doesn't have more of a buzz, I think it will after more people try a HI and find themselves blown away like i was! Thanks again Alan, Been a pleasure dealing with you and an even bigger pleasure enjoying your product! :)

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Sorry bout the pudgy hands and crummy pic quality :)
 
Phizix

Phizix

Well-Known Member
Nice pics Ghostvapor!

The purple wood is my favorite and the size is so compact. I want one just like that.
 
Phizix,
ilovebOObs

ilovebOObs

can i stick my male joint in there?
hahaha i hate my pudgy hands too, lolz we should make a club or something.

Thanks for the pics and review! ghostvapor!!!
 
ilovebOObs,
GO!!bot

GO!!bot

Active Member
Ive been wondering too why this isnt getting too much hype, this thing looks like the king of logs!

I can't wait to get mine
 
GO!!bot,
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