JoeKickass
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THC SCIENTIFIC said:
So is there anything else that you think is 100% safe to use in the Omicron besides pure gold?
Discontinued Omicron Vaporizer for oils
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So is there anything else that you think is 100% safe to use in the Omicron besides pure gold?
Fyi guys, herb contact with the skin will cause irritation due to nonglandular trichomes, which kinda look like spikes rather than regular mushroom trichomes. Some strains have more nonglandular trichomes than others, particularly the kush varieties which are famous for their abundance of non glandular trichomes. I've experienced this myself while trimming with a few friends helping, and one particular strain gave us all itches and blotches on our hands that looked like allergy, but none of us are actually allergic to cannabis..
Nonglandular trichomes will sink into the skin causing micro holes which ends up causing this inflamation.
Nonglandular trichomes will sink into the skin causing micro holes which ends up causing this inflamation.
JoeKickass said:
Now the Omicron is a essential oil vaporizer that is made for thick essential oils, stable and non runny.
I used butane extracts, cold pressed extracts, co2 extracts, and alcohol extracts,
What I know is iso does not have the waxes the butane extracts have, co2 has alot more other crap if done crappy because it extracts chlorophyll also.
Now the best one out if all are clear ones, the clearer the oil the better, because Thc is colorless. The amber versions usually have higher concentrate of CBN which translates to degraded Thc but this helps with pain relief but also adds to the none clear side effects. I have to take a look at my notes but I think CBD is colorless also.
Quality speaks for the color, dark oils are made from old trim, the yellow colors are from fresh flowers/trim. Amber colors that are see through are high CBN/CBD oils.
Different nutrients produce different end results which produce different extracts with the same methods.
Just picked up my Omicron double set the other day from a local Bay Area collective and I have to say I'm amazed with it thusfar. It definitely had a bit of a learning curve at first and I did have a few clogs and issues during my first day of use, but on my third day using it I finally have it figured out and it's hitting like a champ! It's hard to say how much oil I lost through the clogs and it not hitting properly for some time, but now that it's working properly I can see where the real love for the Omicron comes from.
I'm still a bit new to BHO and concentrates, personally. I understand not to put anything like hash, full melt etc into the cartridges. What else might I look to avoid?
I've seen something called gold flake wax that looked pretty enticing from elemental. Will this work in the carts?
I'm still a bit new to BHO and concentrates, personally. I understand not to put anything like hash, full melt etc into the cartridges. What else might I look to avoid?
I've seen something called gold flake wax that looked pretty enticing from elemental. Will this work in the carts?
ru_frothi
Portable Vaporist
Shenk408 said:
WHat I saw was a video of a competitor trashing his competitors product in more than one way. we shuold assume by his excellent mechanical skills that he can indentify the materials and grades of those materials used in their competitors products. What a joke.
I think TV is doing of great job of promoting the quality of materials used in their product but a poor choice in choosing to do a quick hack job on its competitors.
Nothing from this video is new. We knew there was a silica rope in there, we knew there was a nicrome wire heating element, and we knew there were rubber seals. dunno where the concept of plastic and fiberglass came from. Oh yeah, a competitors video where he is trash talking the competition and can't even describe it correctly.
really lost some respect for TV for such a poor hack job. Again, I applaud them for trying to raise the bar in using the highest medical grade parts but to do a quick and inaccurate hack on the competition was in poor taste IMO.
Thats just my 0.02
OF
Well-Known Member
rufrothy said:
Actually I think the concepts of plastic and fiberglass come from Material Science....'cuz I think that's what they are. The seals are a plastic material and fiberglass is made of silica fibers, at least as I understand the definitions of terms. Not my sort of presentation, but I think actually accurate in that respect?
Make no mistake about it, fiberglass (or silica fiber if you will) is a known health concern with e-cigs. Studies are done and cited by those trying to limit that market. The FDA is on that case. Being deeply involved in that market (they make the only US made e-cig I think) this is a big point with them. They use only medical grade materials and processes, and can document that. They are passionate about it (the medical aspects), one of the Principals being a Doctor and all. They're also big on the dozen or so folks they employ. One of them jokingly said if they really wanted to make money they'd 'be making these things in China' and not be spending every Saturday keeping things moving.
So that's how I see it. There really is 'fiberglass and plastic' in there, both known issues at some level but not IMO a serious threat nor the sort of video I'd have done. For instance, the silica wick is mostly in the oil, not vapor path. The part that is exposed is wrapped in wire and soaked in oil. In the terms of the safety guys I think this qualifies as 'encapsulated', like the asbestos and lead paint in your house, not a great material to have around, but safe enough in the form it's in. I'm sure you'd have an extremely tough time showing any silica escaping the system, let alone a significant amount. Likewise, the lead in the solder (assuming it's there), and plastic on wires is also not in the vapor path, something you can't really tell from looking at the debris.
I own and recommend both systems, each having advantages to some part of the users.
OF
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
Shenk408 said:
I hit the Omi while I was watching the video lol
Like everyone said, you're just giving TV the reaction he was trying to get. When he opened up the Omi cart he just decided to try and give the most alarming name for each component.
Fiberglass - Is actually silica rope which cuts cleanly and should be nothing but long single fibers which cannot become airborne like silica dust.
Plastic - The crumbly bit was obviously ceramic but it did seem like there where two white plastic discs, that can't be good huh? Oh wait, plastic is a hugely general term! There are many, many types of plastics which would laugh at the Omicron's level of heat. Think of those fire-proof boxes for important papers.
Wires - Again, wire is a ridiculously general term. Core material, shield material, environmental tolerances? We have no idea. But again, there are many types of quality high-temp wire with shielding that looks just like that. Just like plastic, the shielding can have any number of amazing properties and still just look like plastic.
Doublehead
Member
Just FYI, I have one of these:
http://www.sacros.eu/en/hobbies-toy...-transparent-glass-shisha-water-pipe?vmcchk=1
Got it on Dealextreme but they are sold out now... It makes the Omi hit UNREAL! Teaches you how to draw better as you can see the cloud thickness and makes it even more comfortable on the lungs. It's small, and the mouthpiece fits right into it. Just thought I'd show you!
Using it has really grown on me.
Anyway, thanks man, you are the king. (As I sip on my Omi with Banana OG)
Edit - Just tried to order one from there, and the cart is hung... here is another place - http://www.angrybats.com/colorless-transparent-glass-shisha-water-pipe.html
Likewise, if you dig em, they are wholesale from China from lots of sources... Hopefully no lead in the glass!!!!!
http://www.sacros.eu/en/hobbies-toy...-transparent-glass-shisha-water-pipe?vmcchk=1
Got it on Dealextreme but they are sold out now... It makes the Omi hit UNREAL! Teaches you how to draw better as you can see the cloud thickness and makes it even more comfortable on the lungs. It's small, and the mouthpiece fits right into it. Just thought I'd show you!
Using it has really grown on me.
Anyway, thanks man, you are the king. (As I sip on my Omi with Banana OG)
Edit - Just tried to order one from there, and the cart is hung... here is another place - http://www.angrybats.com/colorless-transparent-glass-shisha-water-pipe.html
Likewise, if you dig em, they are wholesale from China from lots of sources... Hopefully no lead in the glass!!!!!
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
Vitolo said:
When people first mentioned those I thought "I'm sure it can't do anything my bong won't do..."
But it' hard to control the hit with a bong, then I started thinking something as small as that might allow more precise draw control...
Then I watched your video: sold!
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Its up and ready to order.
Store your oils right.
All information is from our distributor.
History of Biophotonic violet glass
The appreciation people have for the special protective qualities of violet glass can be traced back to the heyday of ancient Egyptian civilization. Even then, valuable essences and healing natural products were kept in gold and violet glass containers.
Even with the alchemists during the middle ages there are signs that people of that time were aware of the special quality the shimmering violet glass had. The advancing industrialization and the emergence of new packaging materials meant that violet glass faded into obscurity during the last hundred years.
Since the first industrially produced MIRON violet glass production in 1995, the composition, manufacturing- and verification methods have significantly changed. More and more producers of high quality natural products discover that the advantages of MIRON violet glass containers help their produce to gain an even better market position.
What is biophotonics
The term biophotonics is made up of two Greek words: bios and phos. Bios means life and phos stands for light.
Biophotonics addresses medical and human science questions in the form of light based technologies. Both microscopic and spectroscopic methods belong to this, as well as the use of lasers to explain biological processes on a cellular level.
The main point of biophotonic research is the application of the characteristics of light on food production, pharmacy, bio-technology and medicine. With the help of light, images of microscopically small processes within living cells can be observed quickly and undisturbed.
At the international institute for biophotonics, fundamental research about biophotonic analysis (IBB) is being carried out under the direction of Professor Popp.
Its up and ready to order.
Store your oils right.
VAPORIZER22
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Doublehead said:
Thanks for the info. Been waiting for these to get back in stock on dealzextreme.
Considering how thorough and pervasive your R&D proves to be, you probably have already considered it but I just have to ask:
Is it, or could it ever be in the cards to develop an adaptor (AC? idk) that would allow for corded or non-portable use? It would make it much easier to use the device at home and then be able to leave with fresh batteries - eliminating the wonder if they are going to die on you before you can return to recharge. Currently I hesitate use at home for fear of being stranded with no juice once I am out in the field - even with a backup battery.
It doesn't seem like something that would be too expensive to develop and would (IMO) fully round out an already feature rich & stunningly effective system.
Thanks for everything!
Is it, or could it ever be in the cards to develop an adaptor (AC? idk) that would allow for corded or non-portable use? It would make it much easier to use the device at home and then be able to leave with fresh batteries - eliminating the wonder if they are going to die on you before you can return to recharge. Currently I hesitate use at home for fear of being stranded with no juice once I am out in the field - even with a backup battery.
It doesn't seem like something that would be too expensive to develop and would (IMO) fully round out an already feature rich & stunningly effective system.
Thanks for everything!
So when I picked up my Omicron earlier this week, I hadn't done my proper research on what to load in the carts so the guy at the collective who helped me out recommended two different meds for me. First was a beautiful CO2 ear wax made from blue dream which was golden amber in color and really nice. Second was a darker oil product that looks a bit greenish which I have not tried out yet. He was really keen on the Omicron and seemed to know what he was talking about, but seems that may not be the case...
From what I've read, I'm guessing I should find another use for the darker oil and not bother risking a cart with it as it appears to have too much plant material. Sound about right?
Thanks for an amazing product THC Scientific! I couldn't be happier with my purchase and I can't wait to see some of the new products and accessories you guys are coming out with over the next year. Also love that you guys are a local CA company who fully support your product and adventure out to help customers who are having problems. Top notch all around!
From what I've read, I'm guessing I should find another use for the darker oil and not bother risking a cart with it as it appears to have too much plant material. Sound about right?
Thanks for an amazing product THC Scientific! I couldn't be happier with my purchase and I can't wait to see some of the new products and accessories you guys are coming out with over the next year. Also love that you guys are a local CA company who fully support your product and adventure out to help customers who are having problems. Top notch all around!
puskara said:
Yes, all our models will have it.
JoeKickass
Well-Known Member
THC SCIENTIFIC said:
Nice. I don't know how small you can make it but a chrome omicron switch/socket with a good quality cord coming right out of the chrome part would be sweet!
mflb_hustler
Menny
I just picked up a omicron double pack from a local head shop here in jersey a split it with 1 of my bros. seems sturdy and looks sexy easy to load and it works now gonna do some testing
mflb_hustler
Menny
No problem check your email gonna send you the info now.sessnet said:
PS Paid 180 for double battery and 4 carts with all other accesories
How do you know when a cartridge or if the Omicron itself is bad? A friend gave it to me for Xmas and we went through about 8 golds over the last few weeks but today it will not hit but is leaking out the bottom like crazy. Only thing I can figure is a seal or something inside melted and its not heating up the cartridge. Also is the heating element in the battery part?