Potentiators for edibles?
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Abysmal Vapor
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How are you extracting/cooking your herb ?? What kind of edibles.? I can advise you on butter extractions, Oil tincture(like when you put some herb in olive, grapeseed,rice,almond oil, Alcohol tincutes are also an option, milk extraction, candies,cookies, pizzaQbit said:
.., capsules , edibles with BHO.
biojuggernaut
Snob
Yeah look into a more effective decarb. I've heard 200F for 30 minutes is the best way but what do I know .
Qbit
cannabanana
Abysmal Vapor said:How are you extracting/cooking your herb ?? What kind of edibles.? I can advise you on butter extractions, Oil tincture(like when you put some herb in olive, grapeseed,rice,almond oil, Alcohol tincutes are also an option, milk extraction, candies,cookies, pizzaQbit said:
I cook in olive oil at around 120C/250F for 1/2 an hour.
Abysmal Vapor
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If you are doint this with real bud not vape leftovers .. and you are doing these from a long time.. stop..Qbit said:Abysmal Vapor said:How are you extracting/cooking your herb ?? What kind of edibles.? I can advise you on butter extractions, Oil tincture(like when you put some herb in olive, grapeseed,rice,almond oil, Alcohol tincutes are also an option, milk extraction, candies,cookies, pizzaQbit said:
I cook in olive oil at around 120C/250F for 1/2 an hour.
First of all if you want potency you have to maximize the process.. If you are from the US you probly have crockpot around you must leave it bout 24 hours to get 70-80% of the good stuff.. Thats enough for me but if u want even better results leave it for 48 hours on lowest setting..Oh forgot to say you must stir every 3-10 times during the whole process. If you dont have this appliance you can use as i do a frying pan with water and a pot with stuff in the pot.. on low setting again whole day might need to add water 2-3 times.
I cannot point the source of my knowledge but i speak from my experience too.. The only food known that can increase THC effects is the mango fruit.. try eating one 1 hour before edible or just make a Smoothie with the canna olive oil , manga and a pinch of pine honey.(i do that in my blender).
I use fresh plant, and leaf matter for milk extraction called Managua (traditional here) boil in milk no matter what leafs mails.. I tried nice brew in the range of 50-500 g leafs (enough 1-12 people,fo9r example one big male plant could do the job , if it is fresh and u dont want to wait you can bake it in the oven at 120 c until dry.)
Buds in oils. 5-50 g into 250 ml some good oil.. like virgin olive ,grapeseed etc.. For me the hemp oil best and healthiest for the purpose
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Qbit
cannabanana
Thanks for your suggestions, Abysmal, but I'm not concerned here with the actual cooking method. i've been doing it for years, and I find that 120C/250F for half an hour to an hour in oil (no water) produces excellent results. I've got a thermometer just for it, just like this one:
The reason for boiling it in water with butter/oil for so long is that water boils at 100C/212F, which is lower than the official decarboxylation temperature of 105C/221F - but boiling for a long time will decarboxylate it eventually. If you want to know why, ask a chemist.
I'm looking more at the process by which cannabinoids are absorbed in the digestive system. I'm guessing that digestive acids and stuff would destroy a fair amount of the cannabinoids, so maybe there is a way to reduce this effect. I'm thinking something alkaline might help, but as I've said, I'm just guessing - I'm no expert on this subject. But maybe someone here is, or at least knows a fair bit more than me.
The reason for boiling it in water with butter/oil for so long is that water boils at 100C/212F, which is lower than the official decarboxylation temperature of 105C/221F - but boiling for a long time will decarboxylate it eventually. If you want to know why, ask a chemist.
I'm looking more at the process by which cannabinoids are absorbed in the digestive system. I'm guessing that digestive acids and stuff would destroy a fair amount of the cannabinoids, so maybe there is a way to reduce this effect. I'm thinking something alkaline might help, but as I've said, I'm just guessing - I'm no expert on this subject. But maybe someone here is, or at least knows a fair bit more than me.
herbgirl
cannabis aromatherapist
add some soy lecithin...
http://forum.grasscity.com/incredib...-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html#post9431861
apparently it increases absorption in the body.
http://forum.grasscity.com/incredib...-hash-candy-canna-bombs-more.html#post9431861
apparently it increases absorption in the body.
SD_haze
Well-Known Member
1. soy lecithin
2. overripe mango (consumed ~30 mins before edibles)
3. high cacao % dark chocolate (consumed ~30 mins before edibles, here this explaisn how this works Dark Chocolate & Cannabis )
4. Piracetam+choline (this potentiates almost every psychoactive drug, although the effects vary user by user based on your body chemistry)
here is a piracetam+cannabis experience http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=35283
Personally, I was on a piracetam regimen, took 3 capsules 1 hr before an edible that contained half a gram of ice-water hash.
Took it at ~5pm, was about 7am and I was still feeling it without ever re-dosing. Fell asleep three separate times and woke up no less high each time.
I would never do this again honestly, the peak felt like a low/medium dose of psychedelics but I could barely talk. I *would* of course potentiate a smaller dose of edibles if I was trying to save bud/hash.
2. overripe mango (consumed ~30 mins before edibles)
3. high cacao % dark chocolate (consumed ~30 mins before edibles, here this explaisn how this works Dark Chocolate & Cannabis )
4. Piracetam+choline (this potentiates almost every psychoactive drug, although the effects vary user by user based on your body chemistry)
here is a piracetam+cannabis experience http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=35283
Personally, I was on a piracetam regimen, took 3 capsules 1 hr before an edible that contained half a gram of ice-water hash.
Took it at ~5pm, was about 7am and I was still feeling it without ever re-dosing. Fell asleep three separate times and woke up no less high each time.
I would never do this again honestly, the peak felt like a low/medium dose of psychedelics but I could barely talk. I *would* of course potentiate a smaller dose of edibles if I was trying to save bud/hash.
Monsoon
Well-Known Member
I make my own capsules and take a few potentiators which seem to help. Soy lecithin was mentioned but I also take my capsules with ginger and Bioperine. The last two are used to boost potency in the commercial Cannabrex capsule kits. Bioperine is piperine extract (black pepper) an boosts absorption of a number of drugs and vitamins. It can double potency for some substances so you may want to avoid taking it if you're on a high dose of something that could be toxic at higher levels. If you can't find it at the health food store, they also add it to many vitamins, I get mine from vitamin D pills which come in a bottle of 180 for $10.
happyhippe
Semi Vaporist
Mangos? Maby Eat one 30-40 minutes before you eat your edibles. What about cimetidine.
Rico420
Well-Known Member
I know different oils contain napes, a compound that supposedly activates with the cbd receptors in your gut. there's people selling nape isolates on the web with purported activity on said receptors, maybe trying different oils in your edibles could offer some potentiation due to the nape compounds.
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120700
An interesting overview of napes ^^
http://www.drugs-forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=120700
An interesting overview of napes ^^