Discontinued Purple-Days Vaporizer
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Counting/comparing hits is pretty much a waste of time. Too many variables. Even with the same herb (which can account for several variables), my wife usually gets twice as many hits as I do. That's just her hit size vs. mine. And I could decrease my hits per bowl, if I chose to, for even more of a difference.
digglover
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Hey vtac -vtac said:I always kind of scoffed at the idea of using the PD with a water pipe. I like water filtered vapor and hitting bongs, but with the PD's small bowl and short vapor path designed for minimal condensation it just didn't feel right.
After actually trying it I was impressed how well it worked, all things considered.
The PD provides a high vapor to air ratio, but it seemed to be diminished when filling up a huge (in relation to the PD's bowl) bong. The disproportionate bongs also seemed to provide too much suction torque for an even cook.
So what would be the ideal bong for the PD? Probably something with minimal surface area, volume and water. Keep the vapor ratio high and condensation low.
On the advice of a knowledgeable glasshead I decided to try a 100ml EHLE. Good quality and value.
After a couple weeks of testing I have to say this is an excellent fit for the PD. So much better than the bigger bongs I've tried. Suction is right on and the low volume keeps the vapor thick. Super easy to clean, well made, and just plain fun to hit!
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Re-posting these from the skim milk thread. With the standard downstem you only need about 15ml of water.
Just for fun I decided to see how far I could take a 0.1g. Packing the bowls about half way to the top I was averaging 6 bowls per 0.1g.Each bowl was enough to fill the 100ml bong twice without any popcorn taste. What does it all mean? Hitting bongs is fun.
You can pick one of these up for only $40 at EDIT.
Could you describe the benefits to using a bong with the purple days?
I've never hit a bong before and was wondering if it'd be worth investing in this with my PD?
Do you think the pipe you mentioned would work well with an Extreme too?
Oh by the way, Thanks a lot Tom and Pam! I love the PD
!Thanks
digglover
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Never. I'm a bit of a virgin when it comes to all this.jcw919 said:you've never hit a bong before? i know this forum is "fuck combustion" but everyone must appreciate a good bong rip. you need to try one
I just started toking a couple months ago. I have so much to experience haha!
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
an early converter eh? you wont regret itdigglover said:Never. I'm a bit of a virgin when it comes to all this.jcw919 said:
I just started toking a couple months ago. I have so much to experience haha!
stickstones
Vapor concierge
diggle...hitting a vape through a bong, esp one with ice, is much smoother, imo
How many drops of essential oil do you all usually use with the brass piece provided?
My SSV came with some peppermint so I was going to try it out. The first go around I put in 3 drops, it smells great. I did hear it pop which concerned me.
How long do oils usually last?
Thanks for the help,
My SSV came with some peppermint so I was going to try it out. The first go around I put in 3 drops, it smells great. I did hear it pop which concerned me.
How long do oils usually last?
Thanks for the help,
Acolyte of Zinglon
Wizard-Ninja
use however much you want, a hint to make the smell last longer is to put some wax in the cup and the essential oils will mix with the wax and release slower
Interesting how different one's standards and perception can vary from another's. I've tried this and found that not only is the bowl too small to hold enough for a normal sized bongload, but the airflow is so restricted that unless an even smaller amount is loaded into the bowl its like trying to suck a frozen milkshake through a straw.Chubba said:12 vapor bong hits from 0.1g? Where do I sign up?
Something about an upside down PD on a $40 piece of glass seems suss.
Is the PD very heavy? Couldn't it possibly break the joint?
Chubba
Vaporbonger
Mine hasn't been shipped yet Darcey.
It's still being made I assume, ~10 days since Pammy gave me an estimate on a 2 week lead time.
I'm still getting to know my new SSV so I'm not too stressed.
Can't wait for the efficiency though, I'm a very poor smoker and these 0.3g whips really chew through a bag.
It's still being made I assume, ~10 days since Pammy gave me an estimate on a 2 week lead time.
I'm still getting to know my new SSV so I'm not too stressed.
Can't wait for the efficiency though, I'm a very poor smoker and these 0.3g whips really chew through a bag.
stickstones
Vapor concierge
You'd be the first to express disappointment in the bong method. Why would you even try to hit it through a bong when you weren't even able to get a hit without it? I don't think you can accurately judge modifications to this unit or its delivery system given your lack of success with it in its normal mode of operation.captainhits said:Interesting how different one's standards and perception can vary from another's. I've tried this and found that not only is the bowl too small to hold enough for a normal sized bongload, but the airflow is so restricted that unless an even smaller amount is loaded into the bowl its like trying to suck a frozen milkshake through a straw.Chubba said:12 vapor bong hits from 0.1g? Where do I sign up?
Something about an upside down PD on a $40 piece of glass seems suss.
Is the PD very heavy? Couldn't it possibly break the joint?
The_Algebraist
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Tom & Pammy. PD arrived today to the office. It looks stunning. I'm tempted to set it on my desk, plug it in and let it heat up for an hour and take a few pulls but my co workers might be curious as to what that sweet scented vapor floating in the air might be. Looking forward to taking her out for a spin this evening. Thnx!
Progress
'Socratic Existentialist, MD'
I have never found either of the things you mentioned to be a problem. The airflow is somewhat tight (relatively at least), but is manageable (maybe your screen has gotten clogged?). The bowl size is small too, but fills a standard 2-footer with vapor pretty well IME (I imagine that the quality of your herbs, etc. would play a significant role in this factor).
Maybe you can explain more about what you are doing and what is going wrong so we can figure out the difference(and hopefully solve the problems you report to be experiencing)
edit: thank you lwein (I would have never thought to look for more info about his PD problems in the Volcanic Rock Vapor Buddy thread). It seems that the darker spots may be due to air-flow issues or the fact that a plant does not contain essential oils in uniform distributions (some parts have more to vaporize than others). As far as you (captainhits) trashing all of the other vapes you mentioned...You have a right to your opinion, but must realize that it is a minority perspective in a sea of information.
lwien
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Progress, if you haven't already, check this thread out and it may help to explain some of the problems that captain hits is experiencing:
http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=863
http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=863
Progress,
I'm just very particular and theres not enough airflow for me personally to get a good bonghit, nor will enough fit into the small bowl. Obviously the PD wasn't designed to use with a bong so rightly so. Regarding the herb I use, it's Kush, generally an og strain from a pharmacy. The quality imo it's in the top 90 percentile in terms of maximum potentcy one could grow with hydroponics. I also grind to a consistent particle size.
As far as my perspective it's generally a minority perspective. Im usually the first to discover problems, and also the first to suggest improvements. I'm unconventional, a perfectionist, and a visionary thinker..
I'm just very particular and theres not enough airflow for me personally to get a good bonghit, nor will enough fit into the small bowl. Obviously the PD wasn't designed to use with a bong so rightly so. Regarding the herb I use, it's Kush, generally an og strain from a pharmacy. The quality imo it's in the top 90 percentile in terms of maximum potentcy one could grow with hydroponics. I also grind to a consistent particle size.
As far as my perspective it's generally a minority perspective. Im usually the first to discover problems, and also the first to suggest improvements. I'm unconventional, a perfectionist, and a visionary thinker..
lwien
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You are ??captainhits said:As far as my perspective it's generally a minority perspective. Im usually the first to discover problems, and also the first to suggest improvements. I'm unconventional, a perfectionist, and a visionary thinker..
You're also more full of yourself than I am, which I agree, is pretty unconventional.
Just yankin' your chain a bit captn'.
lol...its true! Fuller than some not as full as others. 
On the same token I love nothing more than to be shown wrong or learn a better way. Im an aquarius..seeker of truth at all costs. 
On the same token I love nothing more than to be shown wrong or learn a better way. Im an aquarius..seeker of truth at all costs.
The_Algebraist
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So I'm re-enjoying the PD after many a week away from one and I wanted to echo some of what is kind of swimming somewhere in the midst of this really long thread.
There is some technique involved in fully enjoying this beautiful little thing. Good thing the technique is pretty damn simple. This is what works best for me. I play with how much herb I pack into it but always make sure it's packed loosely in so that air can pass over a greater surface area. Once the herb is vaped, I can, about 99% of the time, lightly tap the bowl with my finger and knock all of the poo out.
pre-vape:
1. Use only dry, finely chopped/ground herb
2. Use only very dry, very finely chopped/ground herb
3. Don't pack her tight. You shouldn't even have to push any herb in with your finger beyond tucking the bits and ends past the mouth of the bowl.
the vape:
1. Rather than taking a full on hit, take smaller measured puffs, pull into the mouth, then hit. Sherlock Holmes style.
Just did a 50/50 kief bowl. Got four cloudy hits with the tiniest amount of herb. Unbelievable.
There is some technique involved in fully enjoying this beautiful little thing. Good thing the technique is pretty damn simple. This is what works best for me. I play with how much herb I pack into it but always make sure it's packed loosely in so that air can pass over a greater surface area. Once the herb is vaped, I can, about 99% of the time, lightly tap the bowl with my finger and knock all of the poo out.
pre-vape:
1. Use only dry, finely chopped/ground herb
2. Use only very dry, very finely chopped/ground herb
3. Don't pack her tight. You shouldn't even have to push any herb in with your finger beyond tucking the bits and ends past the mouth of the bowl.
the vape:
1. Rather than taking a full on hit, take smaller measured puffs, pull into the mouth, then hit. Sherlock Holmes style.
Just did a 50/50 kief bowl. Got four cloudy hits with the tiniest amount of herb. Unbelievable.
Sounds like you've got it nailed, Algebraist. Puff style is where it's at!
The PD really is such a simple vape to use. I don't know how some people have so many problems and blame the vape.
The only thing I take minor issue with is the following quote, because I hear it a lot and don't think it's entirely accurate.
The PD really is such a simple vape to use. I don't know how some people have so many problems and blame the vape.
The only thing I take minor issue with is the following quote, because I hear it a lot and don't think it's entirely accurate.
Moist herb is definitely bad. Damp bud just sucks in general, especially with vapes. Bone dry herb (below 10% moisture content) will vape a bit faster, but any properly dried and cured bud works fine in the PD. That's 10-15% according to this. Some people might even prefer the slightly different flavor/sensation and slightly slower vaping of 15% compared to 10% or less. Super dry herb definitely vapes better than it smokes, though.