Arizer Solo
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Fixed.
Solo Updates:
It is possible for the User to purchase and replace the battery if necessary. A battery replacement service will be offered as well for those who are not comfortable with doing the work.
The optional 'charger' will not be a charger, just an Ac adapter to use to power your unit. Charging the unit and using it at the same time would be devastating to the life of the battery.
and I'm very glad to here the battery is user replaceable, I think that will change a lot of peoples opinions on this thing! How long until these ac transformers are available for purchase?
vapeguy
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I know the EQ and Solo are very different, but after owning the EQ for 2-3 months now I can tell you I don't at all remember the last time I turned the fan on, in fact I even put it's remote away as I now only use the power button and up/down arrows exclusively. I always found it completely ridiculous to have to use a remote to control a device that's a quarter inch away from it, but with the unit you need to go through the menus to control the fan so it was easier to use the remote.
To me the Solo is really an improved EQ, it's almost all the best of the EQ minus all the cons, let me explain:
-No more remote to control a device a quarter inch away
-The EQ looks very suspicious with the hose full of resin hanging out, if someone happened to walk in un announced on you, which is very often a real possibility for me, it's rather obvious what the EQ is, with the Solo it looks like I have a can of energy drink with a clear straw, plus I can easily hide it. Just try to hide an EQ attached to a cord with 400+ degree parts in a rush, I had to a few times and had to risk burning stuff with the hot glass parts
-Another downside of the hose is it can easily get pulled/yanked and possibly break the EQ, I've accidentally yanked/sat on my EQ tube and nearly caused it to fall to the floor several times but luckily it just tipped on the table and didn't fall
-No more filters to clean, I'll try a filter as one user mentioned, but if I'm satisfied with it filterless this will be great, and anyway the filters for this would cost a fraction of the price of EQ filters
-It seems like my night stand drawer is now half filled with EQ parts (bags, whip, mini whip, cyclone bowls, etc.), the Solo has much less parts to deal with
-As I said before when certain people come over I don't want them to see I have a vaporizer and with the EQ I always have to disconnect it and go put it away somewhere big enough to fit it, the Solo would fit in my night table drawer
-No more being attached to a cord, sometimes I want to go vaporize in a another room but don't due to the trouble of undoing and passing the AC wire (I passed mine behind furniture so it just sticks out at my night table, it would be a pain to undo it each time)
So in my eyes, although the EQ and Solo are in fact different, the Solo is just so much better for me I'll be ordering it in the next few days for sure, unfortunately my EQ in just 2-3 months fell from $260 to under $100 in value, these don't keep their value anywhere near like my Volcano did, so I'll have to be sure of the move, but I don't see how I can go wrong, to me it's a new and improved EQ.
BTW the AC adapter is going to be at the very least $40, and likely as much as $100. An AC adapter that can provide enough amperage to charge the battery and run the device is going to cost a lot, and likely why it doesn't come with it, but at $300 it should be included, then again I prefer a $300 model without the "special" AC adapter than all models being $350 and coming with it, at least now we have a choice, but they should also sell it with the better AC adapter so you don't need to pay for 2 of them.
To me the Solo is really an improved EQ, it's almost all the best of the EQ minus all the cons, let me explain:
-No more remote to control a device a quarter inch away
-The EQ looks very suspicious with the hose full of resin hanging out, if someone happened to walk in un announced on you, which is very often a real possibility for me, it's rather obvious what the EQ is, with the Solo it looks like I have a can of energy drink with a clear straw, plus I can easily hide it. Just try to hide an EQ attached to a cord with 400+ degree parts in a rush, I had to a few times and had to risk burning stuff with the hot glass parts
-Another downside of the hose is it can easily get pulled/yanked and possibly break the EQ, I've accidentally yanked/sat on my EQ tube and nearly caused it to fall to the floor several times but luckily it just tipped on the table and didn't fall
-No more filters to clean, I'll try a filter as one user mentioned, but if I'm satisfied with it filterless this will be great, and anyway the filters for this would cost a fraction of the price of EQ filters
-It seems like my night stand drawer is now half filled with EQ parts (bags, whip, mini whip, cyclone bowls, etc.), the Solo has much less parts to deal with
-As I said before when certain people come over I don't want them to see I have a vaporizer and with the EQ I always have to disconnect it and go put it away somewhere big enough to fit it, the Solo would fit in my night table drawer
-No more being attached to a cord, sometimes I want to go vaporize in a another room but don't due to the trouble of undoing and passing the AC wire (I passed mine behind furniture so it just sticks out at my night table, it would be a pain to undo it each time)
So in my eyes, although the EQ and Solo are in fact different, the Solo is just so much better for me I'll be ordering it in the next few days for sure, unfortunately my EQ in just 2-3 months fell from $260 to under $100 in value, these don't keep their value anywhere near like my Volcano did, so I'll have to be sure of the move, but I don't see how I can go wrong, to me it's a new and improved EQ.
BTW the AC adapter is going to be at the very least $40, and likely as much as $100. An AC adapter that can provide enough amperage to charge the battery and run the device is going to cost a lot, and likely why it doesn't come with it, but at $300 it should be included, then again I prefer a $300 model without the "special" AC adapter than all models being $350 and coming with it, at least now we have a choice, but they should also sell it with the better AC adapter so you don't need to pay for 2 of them.
vapeguy
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pakalolo said:
OK, assuming a cheap charger, yes, but I'm assuming Arizer would sell a charger powerful enough that the battery would not even notice if the device is being used or not, if your power supply is the right amperage, it makes no difference at all if the device is on or off as there's more than enough power to do both without sacrificing the performance of either.
And about the candlepowerforum, that's a flashlight forum, I've never seen a flashlight run on lithium batteries though I'm sure there are some, this means most battery discussions on CPF will be for completely different battery technologies and not at all applicable to lithium batteries.
lwien
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aab1 said:
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=lithium+flashlights&qscrl=1
aab1 said:
There a TONS of in depth reviews of lithium batteries and their associated chargers in that forum.
Most of the discussions there are by members who use these flashlights professionally and tactically where their lives depend on their lights working and working correctly, so there is much discussion about the best lithium batts along with the best chargers to use along with the best way to keep these batts in tip top shapel
I would venture to guess that most of those that use flashlights professionally are doing so using lithium powered lights.
I would not post up a forum for people to do some research on if it was in fact, not applicable.
Nice review. You can get a good idea of the build quality from this. I think most people who actually handle the Solo will immediately realize why Arizer is asking $300.
Heh. Good point, I was only considering how well he showed the Solo's construction, not its performance. I chuckled at how much he goes out of his way to avoid saying what the real primary purpose is.
ETA reponse to Vitolo...
Vitolo said:
Heh. Good point, I was only considering how well he showed the Solo's construction, not its performance. I chuckled at how much he goes out of his way to avoid saying what the real primary purpose is.
ETA reponse to Vitolo...
lwien
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aab1 said:
Simply not true.
Please spend some time reading what is there before making such claims. The VASTS MAJORITY of discussions there revolve around rechargeables including lithium rechargables.
Again, I would not waste anyone's time by posting up a link unless it was of value.
I'm done debating this.
To those looking for more info on this subject, pay this site a visit and you may find some info that may be of value to you.
vapeguy
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lwien said:
I know that website quite well almost each thread I saw on lithiums was the disposable type, I know they also discuss the rechargeable ones, but don't confuse disposable lithiums with rechargeable lithiums. It would have made more sense to give a site that talks only about rechargeables to avoid confusion like others posted above.
I'm done too.
aab1 said:
As per Rockwise previously, the AC adapter will not charge the battery, it will simply power the Solo. That means any AC adapter with the right specs should work. Since I can get a universal adapter almost anywhere for about $10, I don't see them asking your prices, but who knows.
vapeguy
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pakalolo said:
I noticed that post later. The $10 AC adapters provide something like a max of 500mA at 5 volts, this Solo will require at LEAST 2000mA (likely much much more, the EQ adapter is 3500mA at 19 volts, which is like 100 times the power of those cheap $10 adapters), so only $50+ adapters can provide this sort of power. the $10 ones could at the very most power the LEDs on it, but actually not even as the Solo likely runs on higher than standard DC voltages like the EQ's 19 volts, not the 5 or so volts of $10 adapters.
vapeguy
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IAmKrazy2 said:
Rockwise.net right? Ain't working here.
BTW it's a HUGE relief to hear the battery can be user replaced, even if it's soldered on the PCB I'd prefer to change it myself than have to be vaporizer-less for at least a week every few years. I prefer to limit myself to one best all around vaporizer so I never have a backup solution.
With my issues with my EQ, I realize having a backup vape would be a very good idea because I can't imagine smoking again even in an emergency.
What is the lowest cost vape that would be the perfect "emergency vape"? I'm guessing one of those lighter powered ones, I don't care about exact temp control on an emergency unit which I would hope to never have to use, like a fire extinguisher, I want to have one, but never want to use it.
aab1 said:
K. J. Rockwise is in Kitchener-Waterloo, same as Arizer.
Your question is vague, since it leaves it up to me to decide what is perfection. My answer would be the MFLB, hands down. It's not the cheapest but for my needs it delivers the most bang for the buck. If you want cheap, get a Ubie.
Vaporisateur
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lwien said:
Absolutely true! And even then, I use lower settings during the day to keep a clear head as much as possible and higher temps at night where the pain can be more intense and I don't mind being stoned. Both helps with pain relief, but for me the difference is the 'high' factor, eh?
charliedontsurf
Medical
aab1 said:
Not to go off topic a bit, but providing you have glass pieces to use it with, I highly recommend the Vapocane or the glass vapobowl. Either/or can be used to provide -very- high quality convection vapor, using only a jet lighter and whatever glass you have. You could even plunge them into apples or what you, if necessary.
Recently my preferred vape died, the Magickwand, and I was left to go and retest all my other vaporizers. I found that the Vapocane is really a superb model. It provides truly dense, highly flavorful vapor with only a jet lighter. I think, forgiving its higher fragility, that it is ultimately superior to the vapobowl for a number of reasons, although both are very high quality.
The vapocane or vapobowl will provide a very good post-apocalyptic vapor solution as long as torches and butane gas aren't a problem - Maybe all the torches will be employed defending against flesh-eating mutants, I don't know
I'm so ridiculously interested in the Solo, but am totally unwilling to pay even the post 10% discounted rate. That's a **** load of money to a student like me, and people with similar situations. A VXC seems like a -reasonable- huge purchase because it comes with superb glass and is so revolutionary, the Solo just doesn't feel right at such an expense. I do applaud Arizer for making what looks to be a truly superb portable, but I just don't have that kind of scratch for something like this and will have to wait for the retailers to eventually lower prices.
Herborizer
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Ordered my solo. Looking forward to getting it.
vapeguy
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Any other comments about selling my 2 month old EQ for the Solo?
As I said I never use the fan on my EQ anymore, I don't even use the remote anymore, I use the power, up and down buttons, that's all.
The Solo seems to offer nothing but advantages to me like a more compact, stealthy unit that's easy to hide and not obvious what it is if it gets seen. There's also no long tubes or bags to mess with and which also give a huge hint to the real use of the EQ when the whip is attached. I'd also be free to vape anywhere at all, not just in one room. It's also obviously much, much tougher than the EQ which I nearly broke several times in the 2 months I had it by accidentally pulling or sitting on the tube attached to it, and the Solo has no glass parts inside and looks like you could drop it and it would probably still work fine, especially since it's digital which means no moving parts (analog models are almost sure to break if they fall as the moving parts in an analog thermostat are extremely sensitive to impacts, my analog volcano was rendered useless after a tiny 1 foot drop, the digital volcano would have survived 4 times the fall easily, digital thermostats and circuits can handle extreme shocks with no damage whatsoever as there are no moving parts).
But I can't afford to get the Solo if I don't sell my EQ, even though my EQ is now practically worthless even though it was $260 2 months ago, I can't even get $100 for it now AFAIK (could I get more?). My volcano lost like 20% value in 4 years, the EQ lost like 70% value in 2 months! I wish I had known this was coming out so soon, not knowing cost me over $160 of lost value on the EQ.
I don't see what I'd be missing other than being able to vape off AC power, which I can do later if I buy the "special" adapter.
As I said I never use the fan on my EQ anymore, I don't even use the remote anymore, I use the power, up and down buttons, that's all.
The Solo seems to offer nothing but advantages to me like a more compact, stealthy unit that's easy to hide and not obvious what it is if it gets seen. There's also no long tubes or bags to mess with and which also give a huge hint to the real use of the EQ when the whip is attached. I'd also be free to vape anywhere at all, not just in one room. It's also obviously much, much tougher than the EQ which I nearly broke several times in the 2 months I had it by accidentally pulling or sitting on the tube attached to it, and the Solo has no glass parts inside and looks like you could drop it and it would probably still work fine, especially since it's digital which means no moving parts (analog models are almost sure to break if they fall as the moving parts in an analog thermostat are extremely sensitive to impacts, my analog volcano was rendered useless after a tiny 1 foot drop, the digital volcano would have survived 4 times the fall easily, digital thermostats and circuits can handle extreme shocks with no damage whatsoever as there are no moving parts).
But I can't afford to get the Solo if I don't sell my EQ, even though my EQ is now practically worthless even though it was $260 2 months ago, I can't even get $100 for it now AFAIK (could I get more?). My volcano lost like 20% value in 4 years, the EQ lost like 70% value in 2 months! I wish I had known this was coming out so soon, not knowing cost me over $160 of lost value on the EQ.
I don't see what I'd be missing other than being able to vape off AC power, which I can do later if I buy the "special" adapter.
Herborizer
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Personally, I will keep my EQ. I think of it as furniture. I roll home and just hit the button and move on to changing close from work, say hi to the family, etc. Then roll back and take a puff. Then back to whatever I am doing etc etc. The Extreme is basically always on when my wife or I are home. It has an auto-off timer of 4 hours and we rely on that. I guess we really don't think of vaping like having a "vape session". For us its more like sipping some water. We have really integrated it into our lifestyle like that.
While I am sure to love my Solo, I just think the Extreme will be more convenient like an appliance. Yes yes, I know, the solo would only require pulling the plug and putting in the glass. The extreme also requires a little bit of setup too. I guess we will just have to see.
I think my Solo will come more into play for when I don't want to get up to take a puff. Like by my bed or on the couch. Also, I really love being out on my deck or back yard. Having the freedom to hangout outside and medicate will be very nice. Not to mention having it while traveling. HUGE factor.
I can't top thinking about how it doesn't come with a case though. Those glass parts need protecting. Just leaving them on the counter-top is sketchy. This thing requires a case of some sort. It's not optional.
While I am sure to love my Solo, I just think the Extreme will be more convenient like an appliance. Yes yes, I know, the solo would only require pulling the plug and putting in the glass. The extreme also requires a little bit of setup too. I guess we will just have to see.
I think my Solo will come more into play for when I don't want to get up to take a puff. Like by my bed or on the couch. Also, I really love being out on my deck or back yard. Having the freedom to hangout outside and medicate will be very nice. Not to mention having it while traveling. HUGE factor.
I can't top thinking about how it doesn't come with a case though. Those glass parts need protecting. Just leaving them on the counter-top is sketchy. This thing requires a case of some sort. It's not optional.