The WISPR vaporizer
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@rkorson. care to elaborate? a i really like the tough feel of a big hit. wispr get there?rkorson4209 said:
@max.
i too definitely do not need another vape...my god it's an addiction! however, i eagerly await your feedback when you get your wispr. nuthin' like a voice of experience.max said:
@theorum.
mate, i'm leaning in the direction of your opinion but waiting a bit longer... maybe they'll iron out any bugs.THEORUM said:
my finger is poised on the purchase button.
woof
max
Out to lunch
You need to look around the forum some. We're not hiding 'em. They're in a sticky. http://www.fuckcombustion.com/viewtopic.php?id=2463
Gotvape has a member account here, but has never posted with it. They have a spotty history for customer svc. and don't seem to care about improving it here. We have FC friendly dealers with wisprs and discount codes, so there's no reason to mess with Gotvape. They had exclusive rights on the wispr for a while because O&B uses them as their US distributor.
frogbmth
Well-Known Member
If you are in a noisy environment like an action movie or a busy street I doubt it would be noticed, if you have ever used a gas soldering iron, that is the sort of noise it makes. Not surprising considering O&B's main business is making the portasol soldering irons 
Just wondering what else I can liken it to, maybe a camping stove on the go, that's similar. Or even a small can of deodrant being sprayed. It's noisier than a jet flame lighter.
Just wondering what else I can liken it to, maybe a camping stove on the go, that's similar. Or even a small can of deodrant being sprayed. It's noisier than a jet flame lighter.
manwiththeplan
Member
So, I went through my first full can of butane with my Wispr, thought I would share my thoughts...
Ill start saying, Im a big fan of the original Iolite.... Only problems I have had with it after a couple years were ignition related (took many clicks to light) I fixed this by spraying some canned air near where the light is, and completely purging the unit (fill / empty X4 times) and this solved the issue.
That being said, I was very excited to upgrade to the Wispr...
Now... after a month or so of very heavy use, one thing I noticed with the Wispr is only one time it took more that one click to light... It took two, and in my books thats a pretty drastic upgrade from the original.
I fill the chamber roughly half to 3/4 full of ground and dry material. After a cycle or two, I get a great tasting vapor, however I like to leave it cycle 3-4 times before I get the thick visible vapor. It should be noted that the cycle times are very rapid on this thing... It may be a tad louder, but it takes less than half the time to complete a cycle then the original.
Typically, I'm very medicated around the 5 min mark, and usualy turn it off. Ive been putting less and less in the bowl latley as not to waste. A full bowl to myself would knock my d*** in the dirt, so waste not... ect ect... I do like the fact that once you turn this thing off, its off... No cycle down time.. This is great when the mother in law pops by mid sesssion and you dont want another 2 min of "hissing" comming from the couch cushion.
I didnt much care for the new design at first, but its nice to be able to stand it up when not hitting, and sometimes if I forget it on the table, it just blends into the background Kinda grew on me.
I find the fuel level window a bit misleading, it does not give a acurate read, however once you get the hang of it (flip it upside down and check) its not so bad.
Now, everyone has their preferance when it comes to vapes, personally, If I have a few freinds over, I like to fire up the herbalaire or zephyr and get a serious bag session going... but if im couchlocked watching cartoons, or in a hotel, at a function when descretion is needed, or just lounging in a hammock drinking cold beer, the Wispr is a well respected tool in my arsenal.
If you have a hard on against the original iolite, then the Wispr prob won't blow your skirt up, however, if you dig the iolite, the Wispr deff is more reliable, hits harder, and lasts longer...
Just my 2 cents..... Happy Vaping
Ill start saying, Im a big fan of the original Iolite.... Only problems I have had with it after a couple years were ignition related (took many clicks to light) I fixed this by spraying some canned air near where the light is, and completely purging the unit (fill / empty X4 times) and this solved the issue.
That being said, I was very excited to upgrade to the Wispr...
Now... after a month or so of very heavy use, one thing I noticed with the Wispr is only one time it took more that one click to light... It took two, and in my books thats a pretty drastic upgrade from the original.
I fill the chamber roughly half to 3/4 full of ground and dry material. After a cycle or two, I get a great tasting vapor, however I like to leave it cycle 3-4 times before I get the thick visible vapor. It should be noted that the cycle times are very rapid on this thing... It may be a tad louder, but it takes less than half the time to complete a cycle then the original.
Typically, I'm very medicated around the 5 min mark, and usualy turn it off. Ive been putting less and less in the bowl latley as not to waste. A full bowl to myself would knock my d*** in the dirt, so waste not... ect ect... I do like the fact that once you turn this thing off, its off... No cycle down time.. This is great when the mother in law pops by mid sesssion and you dont want another 2 min of "hissing" comming from the couch cushion.
I didnt much care for the new design at first, but its nice to be able to stand it up when not hitting, and sometimes if I forget it on the table, it just blends into the background Kinda grew on me.
I find the fuel level window a bit misleading, it does not give a acurate read, however once you get the hang of it (flip it upside down and check) its not so bad.
Now, everyone has their preferance when it comes to vapes, personally, If I have a few freinds over, I like to fire up the herbalaire or zephyr and get a serious bag session going... but if im couchlocked watching cartoons, or in a hotel, at a function when descretion is needed, or just lounging in a hammock drinking cold beer, the Wispr is a well respected tool in my arsenal.
If you have a hard on against the original iolite, then the Wispr prob won't blow your skirt up, however, if you dig the iolite, the Wispr deff is more reliable, hits harder, and lasts longer...
Just my 2 cents..... Happy Vaping
Ennui Cookout
Well-Known Member
I bought one of these today while windowshopping at some head shops in a city I'm currently visiting. I have to say some shops get the sketchiest vapes I've ever seen. Anyway, I had remembered hearing of this one in conjunction with the Arizer Solo, which I certainly have my eye on and am very likely to still buy. I figured I'd give this Wispr a shot even with the rather less than enthusiastic response I remember over the original Iolite.
I've yet to go through an entire tank, but so far I'm not liking the taste on this compared to my LB. I'm not sure I have draw rate down, so I'll skip the size and quality of the hits. The one thing I will say for sure is this thing is tasting pretty assy so far. That's the short news.
Now as far as the sales pitch I got from the shop owner, he claimed he could do concentrates in this by stacking screens in the chamber and going with BHO. I'd love to give this a shot sometime, because that could potentially be a fun niche for this vape if it succeeds at nothing else.
The other thing he mentioned was that he has used this vape at the theater and otherwise has it out and about with him. While this certainly looks almost like a horribly styled juicepack with a sippy straw, which perhaps is someone's idea of stealthy, the hissing sound it makes I doubt would be anyone's idea of stealthy. I personally wouldn't take this to a quiet theater, though I could see using it at a stadium or whatever since I'm getting more than enough bowls out of one butane load than I would manage to pull off with a pocket full of batteries.
(I would admit part of what sold me was the pure ridiculous look of actually using one.)
I had asked him what he thought of the Launch Box and he said he preferred this unit lately. I had noticed he didn't carry the LB, so take that as you may. Honestly, I really didn't care if he was overstating this for a sale, I was willing to give it a chance even if I suspected it was probably not going to blow me away. The BHO angle and the length of heat time you could hold in the unit appealed to me, I was mostly worried about taste. Even if this thing so far is a bit disappointing, I am not ready to say I regret the purchase. I can still see myself using this sometimes and I still want to spend more time with it to form a more full opinion.
I've yet to go through an entire tank, but so far I'm not liking the taste on this compared to my LB. I'm not sure I have draw rate down, so I'll skip the size and quality of the hits. The one thing I will say for sure is this thing is tasting pretty assy so far. That's the short news.
Now as far as the sales pitch I got from the shop owner, he claimed he could do concentrates in this by stacking screens in the chamber and going with BHO. I'd love to give this a shot sometime, because that could potentially be a fun niche for this vape if it succeeds at nothing else.
The other thing he mentioned was that he has used this vape at the theater and otherwise has it out and about with him. While this certainly looks almost like a horribly styled juicepack with a sippy straw, which perhaps is someone's idea of stealthy, the hissing sound it makes I doubt would be anyone's idea of stealthy. I personally wouldn't take this to a quiet theater, though I could see using it at a stadium or whatever since I'm getting more than enough bowls out of one butane load than I would manage to pull off with a pocket full of batteries.
(I would admit part of what sold me was the pure ridiculous look of actually using one.)
I had asked him what he thought of the Launch Box and he said he preferred this unit lately. I had noticed he didn't carry the LB, so take that as you may. Honestly, I really didn't care if he was overstating this for a sale, I was willing to give it a chance even if I suspected it was probably not going to blow me away. The BHO angle and the length of heat time you could hold in the unit appealed to me, I was mostly worried about taste. Even if this thing so far is a bit disappointing, I am not ready to say I regret the purchase. I can still see myself using this sometimes and I still want to spend more time with it to form a more full opinion.
max
Out to lunch
I've used the wispr a few times now, and I like the improvements, especially the fuel window. It's a fatter fit in a pants pocket, but fits better in the shirt pocket IMO, especially w/mouthpiece folded down. The reported thicker hits are there, although no one should expect it to compete with bigger home models. Like the iolite, it has a hot and a cool side, and holding it on the side away from the stem is easy for cool handling. I like that you can sit it down upright too. The bowl and filling chamber are the same as with the iolite. The filling chamber only seems to differ in that it has a groove to secure the silicone mouthpiece, which was clearly designed to prevent the problems the iolite's stiff plastic mouthpiece suffers from. I never had one of the 'bad' mouthpiece stems, which didn't hold up well, but I did break two stems myself, through mishandling/misuse. The wispr's flexible silicone is not going to break, but the flexibility is not 100% a plus during use, and it has the typical silicone static cling. It's a design tradeoff, but overall I'd give the new mouthpiece design a thumbs up. We'll have to see how it holds up, over time. They've done away with the moisture condenser option (no place to put one), but I don't think it was very popular anyway.
The wispr does hiss less, although the noise seems to be the same (haven't done an A/B comparison on sound). Turning it on doesn't seem to produce significantly more noise, but shutting it off produces a loud snap and is likely to turn some heads.
This model is going to suffer from some of the same issues as the iolite, as far as breakdowns, since it uses the same design. I've already had one instance where the unit failed to 'spark', even after repeated efforts. Like with the iolite, I've found that the best 'fix' for this is just to shut it down for a few and then try again. Every other time I've started it, it's worked the first time, and I've turned it off/on a lot, to test this. If long term reliability is a big issue (as well as price), the LB will probably make you happier. I like both designs, depending on how and where I'm going to use, and for me, the wispr is a worthwhile upgrade over the iolite. If someone took it away from me though, I wouldn't be too frustrated having to use the iolite. I'd probably miss the fuel window the most.
Overall, I'm happy with the new features and improvements, but whether it's worth the $ over the iolite is up to the individual. iolites are going for $130 on eBay (yes, w/warranty coverage), and even with FC discounts you'll likely pay $100+ more for the wispr. But if you consider that the iolite sold at $250 for quite a while, the wispr price seems more reasonable. If you're looking for the best wispr bargain, I'd say play the waiting game. Wider availability should bring better deals, although it's quite possible that O&B may try harder to control distribution than they have in the past.
The wispr does hiss less, although the noise seems to be the same (haven't done an A/B comparison on sound). Turning it on doesn't seem to produce significantly more noise, but shutting it off produces a loud snap and is likely to turn some heads.
This model is going to suffer from some of the same issues as the iolite, as far as breakdowns, since it uses the same design. I've already had one instance where the unit failed to 'spark', even after repeated efforts. Like with the iolite, I've found that the best 'fix' for this is just to shut it down for a few and then try again. Every other time I've started it, it's worked the first time, and I've turned it off/on a lot, to test this. If long term reliability is a big issue (as well as price), the LB will probably make you happier. I like both designs, depending on how and where I'm going to use, and for me, the wispr is a worthwhile upgrade over the iolite. If someone took it away from me though, I wouldn't be too frustrated having to use the iolite. I'd probably miss the fuel window the most.
Overall, I'm happy with the new features and improvements, but whether it's worth the $ over the iolite is up to the individual. iolites are going for $130 on eBay (yes, w/warranty coverage), and even with FC discounts you'll likely pay $100+ more for the wispr. But if you consider that the iolite sold at $250 for quite a while, the wispr price seems more reasonable. If you're looking for the best wispr bargain, I'd say play the waiting game. Wider availability should bring better deals, although it's quite possible that O&B may try harder to control distribution than they have in the past.
iolite and wispr stems fit the typical 1/4" ID, 3/8" OD tubing. 5/16"/7/16" also fits, but not as securely. I like to use a 5-6" piece of tubing with these models, but the wispr mouthpiece, being flexible silicone, doesn't take the tubing as well as the iolite. The weight of the tubing makes the stem flop over. You can still use tubing, but it makes 'one handing' the vape more difficult. One way to extend is to add the 'non-screw in' iolite mouthpiece extensions to the wispr stem. I added a 3/4" piece, and a 1.5" piece, giving me a total length, from the top of the unit to mouthpiece tip, of 4 5/16". It's not quite as long as I'd like, but it does stand up straight.Donkey said:
Ennui Cookout
Well-Known Member
@Max, I think I'm similar in the sense that I don't dislike the Wispr. It's actually a very portable and simple piece of gear to just wander about with and I actually find it more convenient than the LB due to how long the butane lasts. I don't really have to think about it, one butane load will last me all day. That being said, still can't get over the taste 100%, it still tastes sorta like plastic and I think I'm getting a whiff of butane every so often. I also fear the trigger switch, shutting it off seems to take almost too much force to do comfortably. I think if anything's going to break on this, it feels like it's going to be that switch.
Others have found the vape curious but all have mentioned they prefer the taste of my other gear they've used. In fact, one roommate immediately commented on such without prompting. No one had difficulty operating it, however. This is probably the easiest vape I have if only because it makes it very clear when to take a hit and how to turn it on.
Overall, this isn't a bad vape. It's got its strong points in convenience and some downpoints due to taste and that damn switch. If you buy a Wispr, provided it holds up for reliability, it WILL get the job done without question. It's a very easy vape and the cleanup is a breeze. If this was my first vape, I doubt I'd have had as much to complain about. I'm very much curious to see how other high-end portables stack up. I'm likely going to get a Solo in the near future.
Others have found the vape curious but all have mentioned they prefer the taste of my other gear they've used. In fact, one roommate immediately commented on such without prompting. No one had difficulty operating it, however. This is probably the easiest vape I have if only because it makes it very clear when to take a hit and how to turn it on.
Overall, this isn't a bad vape. It's got its strong points in convenience and some downpoints due to taste and that damn switch. If you buy a Wispr, provided it holds up for reliability, it WILL get the job done without question. It's a very easy vape and the cleanup is a breeze. If this was my first vape, I doubt I'd have had as much to complain about. I'm very much curious to see how other high-end portables stack up. I'm likely going to get a Solo in the near future.
max
Out to lunch
I agree that the taste is a minus. It seems more so than with the iolite, although I need to do an A/B comparison to make sure. It's also easy to get dry mouth/throat when using. I have neither issue when using my PD, even though the size of the units and vapor path diameter are similar. For me the wispr will be a vape of convenience when away from AC.
I know you mean the additive, since butane is tasteless/odorless. If you are smelling it, then your unit is defective. Once filled, the butane tank is completely sealed, aside from the intended exit, at which point the catalytic process has broken the butane down and converted to heat and C02 + water vapor. I ran mine through a vaping session while empty of herb, and only tasted the hardware.
I know what you mean, but since neither switch on the iolite has been a problem, mechanically, let's hope they know how to build a reliable on/off switch.
Ennui Cookout
Well-Known Member
@Max, Sorry, you're right I should clarify RE: butane. I did obviously mean the additives, unfortunately the can the shop was pushing did indeed have them in it. I also didn't mean I was getting a whiff through the vapor path. When the heating element is engaged, off the exhaust port I can smell the additive. Sometimes I end up sniffing it when pulling a hit if the heater turns on in the middle of it or I swear I can still sorta smell it every so often, though right now when I'm sticking my nose up around it, I don't smell anything. I'm willing to write off some of this as a mind trick, but I am very serious about there being a bit of an exhaust smell if you are near mine when it's heating.
Continued thoughts on the WISPR: That being said, I'm still using this one pretty much until someone here asks me to break out the Volcano. It's rare that my friends I can regularly smoke out wind up preferring my other gear. I'll probably be using the WISPR as my daily until I get my EV-1 back in order. I do not like the taste, but it's so... convenient. There is no doubt in my mind based upon this vape, I /must/ own a Bud Toaster when that first batch of a thousand hits. The Bud Toaster feels like the logical conclusion of the good ideas the WISPR is bringing to the table so far as convenience and the ability to wander around with it.
Continued thoughts on the WISPR: That being said, I'm still using this one pretty much until someone here asks me to break out the Volcano. It's rare that my friends I can regularly smoke out wind up preferring my other gear. I'll probably be using the WISPR as my daily until I get my EV-1 back in order. I do not like the taste, but it's so... convenient. There is no doubt in my mind based upon this vape, I /must/ own a Bud Toaster when that first batch of a thousand hits. The Bud Toaster feels like the logical conclusion of the good ideas the WISPR is bringing to the table so far as convenience and the ability to wander around with it.
I suppose it's not unreasonable to wonder if the additive completely burns off the catalytic conversion process? I don't know why I never thought about it this way before, but while we know that butane leaves behind nothing but water when it reacts, we have no idea what the additive leaves behind. Therefore it is possible that you could still smell the additive even if no butane is leaving the unit.
Still can't say I've ever smelled/tasted anything through my Iolite, but that's not to say it couldn't happen to someone else.
Still can't say I've ever smelled/tasted anything through my Iolite, but that's not to say it couldn't happen to someone else.
Abysmal Vapor
Supersniffer 2000 - robot fart detection device
Standing years in a metal can .. and if stored on warm temps.. is there any chance that some metal fumes go in the butane,/water mix ? Like diffusion of objects when they are in contact with each other for a long time and their atomic net begin to unite? LOL..nr-cole said:
For example if i leave water in that can
.. for 3 years and then drink it ? Won't it have a metalic taste... ?Will i get a metal poisoning ? Will there be metal particles in the water that i can inhale when they dry up somewhere in my vaporizer 
...Do they use somekind of metal finishing chemical coating on the inside in order to prevent rust ?
max
Out to lunch
I thought about that too, but I've never smelled it when using several different iolites or various lighters, once ignition has been achieved-using various grades of butane as well. So the additive has to be eliminated during the process. Makes sense too, since the odor is added for safety reasons.nr-cole said:
Donkey
Active Member
Quick question. My WISPR is going to arrive soon, and I was wondering, is there anything I need to do before using it for the first time? Like something not in the manual. I've heard people let it cycle with nothing in it to get rid of the plastic taste. Any advice?
Also, if I wanted to take it on a plane with me, how do I make sure there is absolutely NO butane what so ever in side it?
Also, if I wanted to take it on a plane with me, how do I make sure there is absolutely NO butane what so ever in side it?
SF Giant
Reluctant vape collector
Its common practice with most every new vape to let it run for an hour or so to burn off any residual machine oil or other shit that could be left from manufacturing........id suggest not carrying that thing on a plane at all, its bound to look like a bomb on the xray machineDonkey said:
charliedontsurf
Medical
And it will always have some level of resin which could be legally compromising. The Wispr and Iolite could never, ever be cleaned 100% IMO. Very few vapes can - the vapocane comes to mind - but it would still likely get you stopped, detained and questioned, just by its appearance and obvious nature as paraphernalia.
Buy apple, pierce with pencil, fall back on combustion. :/
Buy apple, pierce with pencil, fall back on combustion. :/
Donkey
Active Member
Haha I miss the apple days to be honest. Anyway, how do I bleed the WISPR out? Or whatever its called, I'm not sure. I think its like when you get all the butane out. Also, I heard something about the butane meter being off and holding it upside down? Could anyone shed any light on this? And one last thing, I ordered the WISPR mouthpiece today, and i noticed on the receipt that it said any orders over 150.00 USD need to be signed for. I'm at school now so the post office lady would get them, who works with the school - is there any way she could know whats inside it? Thanks a ton.
Hai_Rypo_T'head
Why smoke and die, when you can vape and fly?
@charliedontsurf. "Buy apple, pierce with pencil, fall back on combustion."
Please enlighten me. Do you mean, inhale and exhale in the pencil hole, and keep the lit end of the spiff there too, to stop the aroma spreading?
@Donkey. If I possessed a Wispr, and was willing to expose it to unwanted attention, I'd first vape a herb with a strong aroma, e.g peppermint, followed by a bowl or two of chamomile. I'd then switch off the ignition, and switch on again without igniting, and wait till the hissing stops.
I'd then pack the Wispr alongside a bag of chamomile, and if the unit attracts official attention, I'd tell 'em it's an inhaler, that flying gives me the jitters, and I use it with chamomile to calm me before take-off, open up my lungs to treat asthma, release my favourite rose petal aroma, or other convincing(?) explanation.
Please enlighten me. Do you mean, inhale and exhale in the pencil hole, and keep the lit end of the spiff there too, to stop the aroma spreading?
@Donkey. If I possessed a Wispr, and was willing to expose it to unwanted attention, I'd first vape a herb with a strong aroma, e.g peppermint, followed by a bowl or two of chamomile. I'd then switch off the ignition, and switch on again without igniting, and wait till the hissing stops.
I'd then pack the Wispr alongside a bag of chamomile, and if the unit attracts official attention, I'd tell 'em it's an inhaler, that flying gives me the jitters, and I use it with chamomile to calm me before take-off, open up my lungs to treat asthma, release my favourite rose petal aroma, or other convincing(?) explanation.
max
Out to lunch
The first ones shipped at the end of July, so nobody's had one for 2 months aside from a few for review purposes. Nobody can assure you that you won't have a problem. Pretty much anything electro-mechanical can break down or even be DOA. There weren't a large percentage of iolites with a switch on problem, and I'd guess that number will be smaller with the wispr. Only time will tell.