Corona Vaping

hinglemccringleberry

hinglemccringleberry

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Kind of OT, but has anyone tried vaping thru a mask yet? A face scarf or bandana-type mask over your face while taking a draw. Just tried it last night. It smooths out the vapor for sure. I might have to start doing it all the time lol
 
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mccringleberry said:
Kind of OT, but has anyone tried vaping thru a mask yet? A face scarf or bandana-type mask over your face while taking a draw. Just tried it last night. It smooths out the vapor for sure. I might have to start doing it all the time lol
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We have always been prepared -

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Polarbearboy

Polarbearboy

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All good...until you start coughing from a massive hit. Everyone will look around and then stare at you for spreading the disease. Except of course for the MAGA idiots, who continue to believe, in spite of the death count, that the whole thing is a hoax.

Got an email this morning from my oldest buddy, who lives in village in Thailand six hours from Bangkok. Near China, and with much of the population living second and third world lives without adequate medical care, they have far fewer infections and far far fewer deaths than the US. Why: Because they went into masked stay at home right from the git go, with clear national direction. My buddy writes:

"There have been single digit new CV cases in all of Thailand for ten consecutive days. 55 total deaths with no more during this period. 3,000 total cases with 190 hospitalizations still. And restrictions have not been lifted because the PM/General is following the medical/public health experts. Even in our village where many are illiterate farmers, they take the pandemic seriously. Some even where their face masks in their tractors in the fields. The Monks are wearing face masks while out for their early morning alms. Color to match their robes, either orange or burnt brown sewn for them out of the same fabric."
 
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uncanni

uncanni

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It's truly shameful how the US has handled and continues to handle the pandemic. I don't understand why companies didn't start manufacturing N95 masks immediately and flooding the market with them? I know that the experts say they aren't necessary for the gen. public, but I'll take a face-fitting N95 mask over one of those flimsy, uncloseable blue ones any day.

We never achieved the level of testing we should have. Absolutely shameful.

People out there promoting violence and committing violence in response to the pandemic: are we living in nazi germany now???
Michigan shooting: 3 charged in Family Dollar security guard ...www.cnn.com › michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd
Man allegedly pushed Austin park ranger enforcing social ...abcnews.go.com › story
Coronavirus pandemic fuels anti-Semitism in world, including ...www.businessinsider.com › coronavirus-pandemic-fuel...
etc.

In my humble opinion, right now USA is a global embarrassment and a pathetic joke.
 
Polarbearboy

Polarbearboy

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uncanni said:
It's truly shameful how the US has handled and continues to handle the pandemic. I don't understand why companies didn't start manufacturing N95 masks immediately and flooding the market with them? I know that the experts say they aren't necessary for the gen. public, but I'll take a face-fitting N95 mask over one of those flimsy, uncloseable blue ones any day.

We never achieved the level of testing we should have. Absolutely shameful.

People out there promoting violence and committing violence in response to the pandemic: are we living in nazi germany now???
Michigan shooting: 3 charged in Family Dollar security guard ...www.cnn.com › michigan-security-guard-mask-killing-trnd
Man allegedly pushed Austin park ranger enforcing social ...abcnews.go.com › story
Coronavirus pandemic fuels anti-Semitism in world, including ...www.businessinsider.com › coronavirus-pandemic-fuel...
etc.

In my humble opinion, right now USA is a global embarrassment and a pathetic joke.
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Also from my buddy in Tland:
"Here in Thailand, Trump is considered a laughing stock and the USA an embarrassment. Not just farangs[Westerners] but Thais. Yesterday Trump was ridiculed by the Thai Stock Exchange."
 
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Polarbearboy said:
All good...until you start coughing from a massive hit. Everyone will look around and then stare at you for spreading the disease. Except of course for the MAGA idiots, who continue to believe, in spite of the death count, that the whole thing is a hoax.

Got an email this morning from my oldest buddy, who lives in village in Thailand six hours from Bangkok. Near China, and with much of the population living second and third world lives without adequate medical care, they have far fewer infections and far far fewer deaths than the US. Why: Because they went into masked stay at home right from the git go, with clear national direction. My buddy writes:

"There have been single digit new CV cases in all of Thailand for ten consecutive days. 55 total deaths with no more during this period. 3,000 total cases with 190 hospitalizations still. And restrictions have not been lifted because the PM/General is following the medical/public health experts. Even in our village where many are illiterate farmers, they take the pandemic seriously. Some even where their face masks in their tractors in the fields. The Monks are wearing face masks while out for their early morning alms. Color to match their robes, either orange or burnt brown sewn for them out of the same fabric."
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Same in the UK. We have huge rates of death, amongst the highest in Europe, masks are still optional, and egotistical know-it-all morons are still out today, and lockdown restriction easing being discussed.

Much ego death needed ovah heah.
 
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hinglemccringleberry

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Polarbearboy said:
All good...until you start coughing from a massive hit. Everyone will look around and then stare at you for spreading the disease. Except of course for the MAGA idiots, who continue to believe, in spite of the death count, that the whole thing is a hoax.
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I don't usually vape in public..I was more referring to being at home while vaping with a mask.
Sure there are a bunch of stupid rednecks out there, but one thing I don't like is people politicizing this, using it as an excuse to cherry pick info that they can use as ammo against people on the other side of the political isle. I've seen far too many straw man BS arguments being made by both sides out of pride and the desire to find a scapegoat for the situation.
I live where it's an even split between righties and lefties and the amount of childish bickering going back and forth drives me nuts. "All conservatives are reckless morons who don't give a shit about the at-risk groups" or "all liberals are cry wolf pussies who live in irrational fear and would line up at a quarantine concentration camp no questions asked" and all kinds of other nonsense that lacks the nuance and gray area that defines reality. We've never experienced a pandemic on this level in the modern era, so it was guaranteed that we as humans were going to fuck shit up, navigating a novel situation that we've never dealt with before. And there was no way to handle this without some group of people getting screwed over. You are damned if you do, damned if you don't. Can you prove that a Democrat administration in the US would've been better prepared for this in terms of testing ability? Nope. Can you prove that Italy got ravaged so badly because of conservatism and not because of our human nature towards being oblivious to coming danger? Nope. This isn't time to play the partisan scapegoat game. We fucked this up because we're stupid humans and modern society isnt set up to handle something like this, it's not because one group of a certain political ideology screwed it up for everyone else. Jesus Christ. If you really believe that NO liberal would EVER throw caution to the wind when it comes to COVID-19 and wind up paying the consequences, I've got news for ya. If you really believe that there are NO conservatives out there who would take this seriously and follow government guidelines, I've got news for ya...
 
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The thread hasnt descended into personal attacks, yet :) I'm damn certain a mod will step in once that happens.

Daddy is always watching :)

I dont know about it being human nature to ignore this. Plenty of other countries have taken this way more seriously and from the start. Masks are compulsory and the populace isnt demonstrating how badly they want to go outside and get infected/spread the infection.

America, Italy, the UK are not exemplums of human nature as a whole, its far more complicated than that IMHO.

EDIT: Its going to be politicised when those in charge of how this gets dealt with are politicians. Its unavoidable, especially when theres one idiot in charge recommending injections of light and bleach.
 
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vapviking

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I don't think mods view truthiness as their responsibility, bless 'em, they seem to focus on civility and the rules of the forum. I do still appreciate that they've let this thread wander a little far afield from "Corona Vaping"!

I have to agree that the US is a dangerously divided country/society. Folks can't agree on facts and that's tragic. I have some decades-long friendships that have gotten stretched very thin these past years; not so long ago sides of any argument among us used to be taken less seriously.

When in a situation, a crisis, that requires hard cold fact and science, it could be argued that leadership should embrace those, not be the instigator of doubt or confusion about them.

No one can answer definitively whether "liberals" or "conservatives" would be doing a better job, but it is painfully clear that the current leadership is really fucking this up, from public safety standpoint. As @emmdeemo is pointing out, we have examples of other countries' responses to hold up as mirror. And the reality, not gray area, of a bleak track record. And we're only in the second or third inning of this ballgame.

The president has gone to daily testing for His Large Self and anyone in proximity, yet also declared yesterday he doesn't think testing is all that important. This is a conflicted message to broadcast. Oh, and that this is all going to blow over, eventually.
I don't call this scapegoating or blame shifting, it is my survival instinct and my two eyes calling bullshit on something that may soon present even more immediate danger to me or my family.
 
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mccringleberry said:
I'm pretty sure I took that into account when I said that?
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1918 isnt a millennia. Thats modern enough to be perfectly relevant, plus all the other epidemics that have happened round the globe since then. There are countries that have very low deaths and were ready. Its not human nature to accept this and chalk up a load of deaths to collateral. That might be the US admins outlook and possibly the UK too, but its not human nature.

I mean, that big rock that killed the dinosaurs was ages ago and we look for big rocks now, and we've even trained up Bruce Willies of all people.

BRUCE WILLIES!
 
Dayseed

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This guy gets it ☝️.

I mean, how can anyone possibly predict and prepare for something that’s caused numerous extinction events over the course of millennia.

What’s important right now is that we think about how badly all this has affected all the bankers and how hard it will be to convince people to return to normal after they realise that ‘normal’ wasn't exactly utopian. And whatever you do, don’t look at the countries who’ve handled this best because they treated healthcare as a human right that’s secondary to profit.

Instead, let’s just focus on the latest dead cat being flung around to distract us.
 
uncanni

uncanni

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Did you know that:

Cigarettes kill close to half a mill in the US each year. The WHO states that 8 million people die worldwide from cigarettes, that cigs kill up to half the users.

They estimate that between 20-40 (some state 50) million people died from the 1918 flu.

I wonder what the total number of people who died because of cigarettes since 1918? The office of the surgeon general states that 20 mill died in the US since 1964--but the page hasn't been reviewed since 2014! https://www.hhs.gov/surgeongeneral/...cco/consequences-smoking-factsheet/index.html
 
vapviking

vapviking

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The video @Planck is showing us about Canadian response v US is stark. US has dicked around 'approaching' universal health care for two or three generations now; we can't seem get beyond the capitalist model. But now we're seeing the model fall apart a little faster, there just ain't enough trickle-down to go around.

Mega-wealthy capitalists feel as though they are the cream that has risen to the top of the heap; they are deserving of so much more than anyone else. Wealth and power has become a potent concentrate and the anxiety over possible loss of that power is gonna drive some of 'em nuts in this pressure cooker pandemic depression.

I could break into my "decline of Western Civ." rap, but even that would be heavy for a Sunday morning so instead,

Happy Mother's Day. Give a mom a socially appropriate hug.
Peace.
 
Siebter

Siebter

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uncanni said:
I don't understand why companies didn't start manufacturing N95 masks immediately and flooding the market with them? I know that the experts say they aren't necessary for the gen. public, but I'll take a face-fitting N95 mask over one of those flimsy, uncloseable blue ones any day.
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The idea of wearing a mask in public aims at protecting *others* from getting infected *by you*. Those higher endish masks are cool for indoor environments that are kept sterile, like a hospital, when you wear them outside they will loose their filtering qualities within only a few minutes. Also many of these masks are good at filtering the air you breath in, but they won't filter your exhale, they are not able to protect others in case you are infected, thus creating a feeling of false safety for those around you. When I'm outside, I actually try to avoid getting too close to those wearing „professional“ masks.
 
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