Brilliant Cut Grinder

MonkeyTime said:

I attribute it to me putting a bit much in, pushing the two pieces together and while they're becoming aligned. I don't think anything has flaked or chipped off.....

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This makes perfect sense, I do this all the time with mine, just reminds me of why I love this grinder so much. It will chew through anything even if you start before the plates properly align.
What's the expression? "Grinder till ya finder"

bizwaxzion said:

I got a response from GFL that this is normal wear for any aluminum grinder and does not affect the function.

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You should ask them where the ground off aluminum ends up......

I'm just surprised this is viewed as a non-issue in this thread, cause if you read the Volcano Hybrd thread there's some radically different views!

invertedisdead said:

You should ask them where the ground off aluminum ends up......

I'm just surprised this is viewed as a non-issue in this thread, cause if you read the Volcano Hybrd thread there's some radically different views!

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Awhile back I posted that I microwaved a decent amount of my ABV exclusively ground in the BCG and there were no sparks or smoke or anything.
Logic tells me that means no shavings are ending up in the herb.
But just a theory.

invertedisdead said:

You should ask them where the ground off aluminum ends up......

I'm just surprised this is viewed as a non-issue in this thread, cause if you read the Volcano Hybrd thread there's some radically different views!

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I'm sure there will be differing views of this too, but it is what it is. I did check their warantee page and they have explicitly called out that scatching or chipping of the finish is NOT a warantee issue.

Oh yeah, a potential opportunity for another "oh my, evil vape companies are poisoning me" bruhah! LOL

Alright, let's look at it. When properly assembled, the teeth...ALL of the teeth...don't touch each other. So, there cannot be chipping or wear of teeth against one another when properly assembled.

Easy to prove...put it together empty and...yes, its spins freely with no metal grinding.

Can we agree with this?

So, my though if if you are losing metal off of the teeth inside your BCG, you may well want to look to your technique for assembly (probably the best opportunity to bang parts together) and grinding.

Baron23 said:

Easy to prove...put it together empty and...yes, its spins freely with no metal grinding.

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The problem with that test is it's not under load, which is obviously where the wear is coming from. My 10 year old Kannastor spins freely when it's empty too, in reality the teeth are thrashed.


I'm not really taking any "evil vape company stance" cause grinder flakes have been debated for years on FC, I'm simply pointing out that perhaps there's a reason why aluminum in the cutlery industry is used to make handles, and not blades.

@Baron23, so true. If you want to be sure that there's no abrasion, you have to, IMO, only grind small, evenly-cut pieces & space them evenly around the plate & inserted between the teeth/blades. This way when the magnet on the top couples with the grinder plate's magnet, the teeth automatically are in alignnment - evidenced by the lid snapping on.

For those heavy users, I do think you need to grind in smaller increments than you would like with this grinder. I do think @stonaGrinders (&/or @grindersForLife) intended larger size is much needed as soon as logistically feasible, BUT ... GFL needs to be sure to make the reservoir(so) large enough to hold a goodly ground amount for heavy users so they only need to grind less often. Personally, I think their next intro maybe should be a full 3".

No "oh my, evil vape companies are poisoning me" hoopla here, I've willingly put far worse things in my body but I am generally curious if this is happening to others as I haven't really heard anyone complain.

What about the bottom portion of the grinder are people not seeing the anodization wearing off around the centre post where the magnet hits the middle plate?

I swear this was discussed around 4months ago. People even posted pictures of the lower portion centre post. GFL did not chime in then either.

Here's Mine, I just cleaned her up for some photo's



The top portion here ( photos below ) is mostly likely from me twisting the grinder before the plates are fully seated because I'm trying to squish in a giant nuggy.

invertedisdead said:

The problem with that test is it's not under load, which is obviously where the wear is coming from.

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IMO, there is no way that these stubby aluminum teeth are going to flex under load to the point of causing interference and metal-metal contact.

MonkeyTime said:

I attribute it to me putting a bit much in, pushing the two pieces together and while they're becoming aligned.

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Easywider said:

is mostly likely from me twisting the grinder before the plates are fully seated because I'm trying to squish in a giant nuggy.

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I suspect this is the cause for many and, while we each are fully entitled to make up our own mind about what is and is not acceptable, its hard for me to see how this could be a manufacturer's warranty issue when...and again, IMO....this damage/wear is most likely from how its used.

The only people who didn't care about that was Sears....I remember bending a 1/2" drive handle when taking off some marine engine bolts....with the help of a four foot length of pipe and a few big guys. Sears just gave us a new one even though it was clearly abused. But, I think they stopped that quite some time ago.

Cheers

Sorry guys – didn't mean to drag this into a health discussion. I actually don't mind having a lil' aluminum dust every now and then, the amounts a grinder looses during his lifetime seem insignificant to me. Since I started vaping, I avoided colored grinders, mostly because it would be yet another topic to make up my mind about, so I just went for an uncolored one. That's all.

As with aluminum dust from grinders, I now do believe (not know) that the amounts are just too small to matter, at least when it comes to hardened, high-quality grinders such as the BCG.

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“Anodizing is an electrochemical process that converts the metal surface into a decorative, durable, corrosion-resistant, anodic oxide finish. ... This aluminum oxide is not applied to the surface like paint or plating, but is fully integrated with the underlying aluminum substrate, so it cannot chip or peel.“

Anodization should not wear off, either.

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Fully aware of the process, it's been posted here. It's surface level.

If the metal is gone, so is the anodizing....

My question is.......how many stems/seeds does it take to grind before finish comes off?

I really love the design but money didn't line up with the release. Now I'm kind of glad I didn't, cause my space case developed the same problem.
I'll admit, I'm no scientist, just an artist, musician, and educator. I'm also high. And the people I educate are younger than 6. So maybe don't trust what I'm saying 100%.

Now that I'm really high and watching TV while typing on my phone, and it got me thinking like this: the wear is not exactly fast. Its over months or years of use that the color fades. I also know it can be scraped off very easily. I mean, it offers some protection, but it leaves something to be desired. I'm imagining micro pieces of metal being inhaled into my lungs on such a small level that I don't even notice it. I mean, I breathe so much shit just living in a city! Not even a big one. There is no perceptible loss of metal beside the color and that happens over many uses. It makes me uncomfortable. Not scared for my life, but it's investment. Feel me? I'm not worried about the health stuff, more curious, but cosmetically it's a bummer.
Basically, I commend the company for their genius design, and I think they should look into sturdier alternatives for color/coating or proof or at least an explanation of what happens to the colored pieces of metal that aren't there anymore.

Diggy Smalls said:

Feel me?

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Feel ya. After all we are here because we care for our health – but: even then we should be careful with things only *seem* to be one way or another. What seems doesn't matter, because many things that matter happen unnoticed (yeah, I'm high too, okay?), so what we should look at are hard facts. If facts are not available, see what logic dictates.

To me logic dictates that there are many ways of color or a finish wearing off besides actual metal parts chipping. I don't have the BCG yet, so I can't speak from personal experience, but on a microscopic level the teeth of an offset plate being pushed on the base could squeeze the very surface. I don't know what kind of anodizing GFL uses, but from what I read an anodized surface is only 500 µm thick max (often much less). Such a thin layer being stressed will show signs of that quickly.

To me what the (pornographically detailed) pics in this thread show are rather signs of wear, not so much actual chipping. Okay, now *I'm* looking at things seem one way or another...

I've been using grinders for about 15 years now – most of them bad, cheaply dyed grinders I never cleaned. If *those* cheap grinders were any risk for my health back then, I'm positive having switched to higher end grinders has eliminated most of those risks, even if we find some microscratches here and there. Even if some microscopic particle would happen to loose its bond with the BCG, the chances of it landing in our weed, then in the device, then in the vapor and then in our lungs seem low. Yeah, seem. What can I say? :-)

We should take care as good as we can, but there is never a guarantee for full absence of risk.

Siebter said:

Feel ya. After all we are here because we care for our health – but: even then we should be careful with things only *seem* to be one way or another. What seems doesn't matter, because many things that matter happen unnoticed (yeah, I'm high too, okay?), so what we should look at are hard facts. If facts are not available, see what logic dictates.

To me logic dictates that there are many ways of color or a finish wearing off besides actual metal parts chipping. I don't have the BCG yet, so I can't speak from personal experience, but on a microscopic level the teeth of an offset plate being pushed on the base could squeeze the very surface. I don't know what kind of anodizing GFL uses, but from what I read an anodized surface is only 500 µm thick max (often much less). Such a thin layer being stressed will show signs of that quickly.

To me what the (pornographically detailed) pics in this thread show are rather signs of wear, not so much actual chipping. Okay, now *I'm* looking at things seem one way or another...

I've been using grinders for about 15 years now – most of them bad, cheaply dyed grinders I never cleaned. If *those* cheap grinders were any risk for my health back then, I'm positive having switched to higher end grinders has eliminated most of those risks, even if we find some microscratches here and there. Even if some microscopic particle would happen to loose its bond with the BCG, the chances of it landing in our weed, then in the device, then in the vapor and then in our lungs seem low. Yeah, seem. What can I say? :-)

We should take care as good as we can, but there is never a guarantee for full absence of risk.

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Agreed.

LabPong said:

My question is.......how many stems/seeds does it take to grind before finish comes off?

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LP, that's a question that I don't think anyone knows the answer to.

Well, if I am not inhaling herb particles through my Pax, Mighty or Dynavap (I’ll leave the Volcano Hybrid out of this for now, LOL), I suppose I’m not inhaling aluminum bits either, right? I haven’t choked on any herb particles, ever. Not that I’m aware of.

I ordered mine January 15th and received February 18th, I did pay for the Expedited Parcel USA - got the shipping notice Valentine's day and received on Tuesday. I got all Hematite and all three plates. I've been sick and not able to smoke and just tried the fine plate today for the Fury Edge and it was a great grind and it's just a lovely grinder. This is the third grinder I've purchased and this is the best one by far and will probably be my 'grinder for life'.

Does anyone have a take on the difference between the medium and coarse plates as far as consistency? I have a vapexhale and a davinci iq and am about to pick up a solo 2 for work/bed use. I’ve heard the solo likes a coarser grind and I prefer to break up weed for blunts by hand so I was thinking coarse was going to be a better option.

I’ve looked at the lift but for another 30+ dollars I’d like something better than an odd blade to cut my weed. Plus the BCG will be so much sexier in red and black with no big logo stamped on it

@WhyAmIBlitzed I’ve only used the medium plate, but I don’t feel like I’d ever actually need a different plate. The medium works great in all of my vapes. Perfect fluffy grind every time.

I’ve had no issues with the coating wearing off. Four months in and it’s still in flawless condition. I haven’t cleaned it except for brushing to harvest the kief. Absolutely love this grinder.

A very good and pleasant night or late evening to you all. So here it is. My very own Brilliant Cut Grinder, gifted to me by an extraordinarily nice member and fellow all round with a true heart and desire to reach out to make that little difference to people's lives.

Believe me I tried to refuse but such was the power of the generosity and the will it just felt right to accept and I certainly did not want to offend lol!

With my mum's help to make a final decision my choice of colour was the first photograph here with Ruby in the middle and I decided on the fine plate, based on recommendation from the benefactor.

But then he also included the medium plate and selected emerald green which actually I think I prefer how did I miss that combination haha.

And the company generously included the course plate in a grey colour for free so I ended up with all three plates what an amazing gift and what a lovely experience to be on the end of such generosity after years of being taken advantage of financially and otherwise due to my Goodwill and un-pressing nature even by supposedly best friends.

I have many friends or acquaintances online who I feel are more genuine friends in spirit and deed than my supposed lifelong friends in real life.





So I really love using this grinder it's so much easier than the Kannastor version 2 I was using.

Especially for keeping all of the herb together and brushing it out because some little bits do still remain in the top grinding section due to the texture and consistency of our outdoor Autoflowers vs tight hard compact buds grown with fertilizer or indoor lights or both, which tend to pulverize much more quickly and fall through the holes more easily.

But the Grind is still perfectly fine and fluffy even the bits which don't make it through the holes, and it is so much easier and tidier an affair to brush those little bits out without them flying all over the place as with the Kannastor V2.

I am OCD about keeping my herb where I want it, not losing trichs all around.

And it's such a breeze to empty out as well with a little brush.

My mum also made some edibles recently and she absolutely loved using this grinder compared to the big bulky Newvape grinders.

So we are very pleased with the BCG and eternally grateful. I hope you like our colour choices.

Alexis said:

I hope you like our colour choices.

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I like your original choice a lot – that Wonderwoman coloration is just fucking awesome. :-)

Siebter said:

I like your original choice a lot – that Wonderwoman coloration is just fucking awesome. :-)

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Thanks mate, I appreciate that. Although, on the BCG website, when you select that colour combo, it looks a lot better because the gold in real life is less yellow than the website images.

Not that I was at all disappointed. The green is much closer to how it looks on the website.

@WhyAmIBlitzed
I would go medium, it's the plate I keep on my grinder most of the time and would be the only plate I would order if I wanted a single plate grinder. It regularly chews up flower for my Dynavaps, MV1, Splinter Z, Tera, Hybrid, Sticky Bricks and others and does well with all especially the MV1 which I find to be picky.

Although consensus is for the medium grind (which I do use for the sake of mixing it up), if I could only have 1, it would be the coarse plate. And I would even like to see @grindersForLife come out with a coarser plate.