Dynavap VapCap
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There is no metal lining. Any stem using a full condenser will allow very little vapor into the space between the stem and condenser.
The airport seems to work in just the same way as it does with a condenser. It just adds air from a different point. So you can feather it like a condenser stem or shotgun it more like a bong.
I'm sot too sure about aluminum in a vapebut i think the Supreme vapes are made out of Aluminum.
@RogueGuy That is a striking vapcap I like! That bowl is lovely too.
Thanks, i took my inspiration from Fullyautomatic on Vape Life
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
When I smoked JOINT’S back in the 70’sTon, I have been eyeing these ceramic pieces. —Given that the ID is 8mm?
That was stand issue!
Thank’s!
Planck
believes in Dog
I expect when the underlying aluminum vaporizes.
Fun fact - Alumina is aluminum oxide. Boiling point is like 3000C/5000F
Ding! Right on @TD. SS Safer than Ti is meaningless without more context. Even if we say ok coils only I don't thing there is simple rule or much science on the subject.
The suspects are titanium dioxide and chromium. I believe Ti dioxide is considered food safe, it's used everywhere from paint to toothpaste. How Much is safe to inhale is unknown and how much could be inhaled is also unknown. Depending on the valence state Cr is harmless or extremely poisonous. Again little to no real data to guide us. Then there is Kanthal oh oh nickel and the beat goes on.
I am content with the material choices Dynavap offers and the method they are used. I believe the vapcap is a safe as vaping can be and that is very safe indeed.
stark1
Lonesome Planet
Ha cover blown, I've long suspected you were aluminati!
But seriously that is a cruel tease, perhaps you could expand on that over on your thread.
What do you think @VapCap the Aluminati vapcap.
Will he remember you when you go visit him, he who vaped hot vaped “hawt” Aluminati vapor...
(Ton does have a unique way of expressing his expertise, I, too, wondered)
It’s all good. He likes to play with reactive AL; moi, I prefer inert (shatterproof, if possible), nonreactive, Glass.
His lungs, his clumped ganglions. My mind is blown.
PS I
, “the Aluminati vapcap”! 
Light me up, Spock! 
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LabPong
Well-Known Member
Because they may use the same stem 2 different ways.....with a water rig or direct mouth draws.
TommyDee
Vaporitor
Great work peeps 
I do give myself a lot of leeway on allowable materials considering history. Brass bowls, aluminum tokers, and beer can bongs. I've eaten out of pitted aluminum pan throughout my entire youth. What's going to kill me now has long been established in my system. However, I have to say that the frequency of use is different today so daily drivers must be safe. Short of vaping arsenic directly, I find my neighbors are killing me faster than my little DIY treks. I will make clear however that I in no way wish to subject anyone else to these hair brained ideas without full disclosure. No less than what I have a right to expect from any of you.
Having said all that, I looked for 8mm or 5/16" ID stainless tubing with a wall of say ~.005". Not to be found on the general market but that is what I would need to make things 'special'.
As to alumina, pretty simple stuff. It is a grainy substrate that is normally vacuum tight. There are 2 ways to buy it; fully cintered or bisque. Bisque is soft and machines like chalk. You fire the bisque at some insane temp and you get a hard stem roughly equivalent to B-glass and better as noted on thin elements. There are 2 ways to fabricate alumina; you can machine the bisque for rough dimensions and do post-fire work with diamond grinding. Many shops elect to fully hard grind short runs.
Today, you can buy ready-to-use 8mm ID and 12mm OD 100mm long alumina tubes from eBay. The reason I say these are inert is that they come to you after having gone through a 3,000F furnace. There is absolutely nothing going to off-gas from a fully fired alumina part even if you put a torch to it. This is the primary material they use for ceramic heaters. The only thing you might do if you want to make sure all process materials are gone (like oils from hands or dust from surfaces) and washing is not sufficient for your constitution - take the flame torch from the garage and set it ablaze. You can't hurt alumina with heat unless you have the professional equipment.
I am considering making my 'glass' stem using an alumina tube. I like the fact that these mostly opaque stems hide/obscure the messiness inside the stem and is still a usable element in design. I do like the fact that alumina is completely inert and doesn't sluff off alumina dust.
From eBay, the 12x8x100 tubes are ready to use, I also found a thin-wall 7x5x100 that would follow my fabrication convention perfectly. These run under $15 if anyone is interest. I'm talking myself into one today.
Where I was going with a haughty multi-hundred dollar ceramic stem for George @VapCap would look something like this:
That stem just felt 'right'... but that was the first time I vaped flowering Quince. Not bad I must say. No buzz though.
Didn't I warn you all that my VAS is expressed in DIY?
I do give myself a lot of leeway on allowable materials considering history. Brass bowls, aluminum tokers, and beer can bongs. I've eaten out of pitted aluminum pan throughout my entire youth. What's going to kill me now has long been established in my system. However, I have to say that the frequency of use is different today so daily drivers must be safe. Short of vaping arsenic directly, I find my neighbors are killing me faster than my little DIY treks. I will make clear however that I in no way wish to subject anyone else to these hair brained ideas without full disclosure. No less than what I have a right to expect from any of you.Having said all that, I looked for 8mm or 5/16" ID stainless tubing with a wall of say ~.005". Not to be found on the general market but that is what I would need to make things 'special'.
As to alumina, pretty simple stuff. It is a grainy substrate that is normally vacuum tight. There are 2 ways to buy it; fully cintered or bisque. Bisque is soft and machines like chalk. You fire the bisque at some insane temp and you get a hard stem roughly equivalent to B-glass and better as noted on thin elements. There are 2 ways to fabricate alumina; you can machine the bisque for rough dimensions and do post-fire work with diamond grinding. Many shops elect to fully hard grind short runs.
Today, you can buy ready-to-use 8mm ID and 12mm OD 100mm long alumina tubes from eBay. The reason I say these are inert is that they come to you after having gone through a 3,000F furnace. There is absolutely nothing going to off-gas from a fully fired alumina part even if you put a torch to it. This is the primary material they use for ceramic heaters. The only thing you might do if you want to make sure all process materials are gone (like oils from hands or dust from surfaces) and washing is not sufficient for your constitution - take the flame torch from the garage and set it ablaze. You can't hurt alumina with heat unless you have the professional equipment.
I am considering making my 'glass' stem using an alumina tube. I like the fact that these mostly opaque stems hide/obscure the messiness inside the stem and is still a usable element in design. I do like the fact that alumina is completely inert and doesn't sluff off alumina dust.
From eBay, the 12x8x100 tubes are ready to use, I also found a thin-wall 7x5x100 that would follow my fabrication convention perfectly. These run under $15 if anyone is interest. I'm talking myself into one today.
Where I was going with a haughty multi-hundred dollar ceramic stem for George @VapCap would look something like this:
That stem just felt 'right'... but that was the first time I vaped flowering Quince. Not bad I must say. No buzz though.
Didn't I warn you all that my VAS is expressed in DIY?
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For that “finished” look.
TommyDee
Vaporitor
The tip was buried in the stem. The Quince just scorched on the first IH heating. Yes, the intent was to bury the cooling fins within the skirt.Meerschaum huh. Interesting thought. What does Meerschaum off-gas?
What is meerschaum made out of?
Sepiolite, also known as meerschaum (/ˈmɪərʃɔːm/ MEER-shawm, /-ʃəm/ -shəm; German: [ˈmeːɐ̯ʃaʊm] ( listen); meaning "foam of the sea"), is a soft white clay mineral, often used to make tobacco pipes (known as meerschaum pipes). A complex magnesium silicate, a typical chemical formula for which is Mg4Si6O15(OH)
Basically Silicon and Magnesium. ...clay.
I'm thinking fired ceramics are more stable. Still a cool idea!
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
You must have an entire gallery just for your vape collection @stark1 . What the heck is that?
I can say that carving alumina bisque could turn out some stunning pieces. Firing alumina bisque has to account for shrinkage at about 15% like any ceramic or porcelain. However, the VC port can be sized and polished at the end of the process. Dragons and maidens would be a carver's delight with this stuff.
I've been tempted to make an engineering drawing just to get some quotes. I'm thinking 4 to 5 bills going through industry. A production run would bring it into the Simrell Vortex territory.
I can say that carving alumina bisque could turn out some stunning pieces. Firing alumina bisque has to account for shrinkage at about 15% like any ceramic or porcelain. However, the VC port can be sized and polished at the end of the process. Dragons and maidens would be a carver's delight with this stuff.
I've been tempted to make an engineering drawing just to get some quotes. I'm thinking 4 to 5 bills going through industry. A production run would bring it into the Simrell Vortex territory.
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
LOL... I could just tease George with one 
Alumina tube 7x5x100 $9.92 eBay; one left. ...after I tagged the other one. Will be here in a week.
I've decided to use up the aluminum tubing for 'material samples' for this alternative direction for the Quince. I need to make up some coupons anyway to go and talk pens and aroma therapy.
And of course, I finally got the Flowering Quince XL spinning mouthpiece to work. Needed a little more shaving of the length to get it to spin... and the condenser definitely has a bump in it on the mouthpiece end. I thought it was subsurface but it turns out it is indeed proud. The mouthpiece spun easily on the rest of the tube but in its correct position, not so much. A little extra sanding on the mouthpiece bore took care of it but that is troublesome.
'19 MQ XL
[thanks @Planck ]
Alumina tube 7x5x100 $9.92 eBay; one left. ...after I tagged the other one. Will be here in a week.
I've decided to use up the aluminum tubing for 'material samples' for this alternative direction for the Quince. I need to make up some coupons anyway to go and talk pens and aroma therapy.
And of course, I finally got the Flowering Quince XL spinning mouthpiece to work. Needed a little more shaving of the length to get it to spin... and the condenser definitely has a bump in it on the mouthpiece end. I thought it was subsurface but it turns out it is indeed proud. The mouthpiece spun easily on the rest of the tube but in its correct position, not so much. A little extra sanding on the mouthpiece bore took care of it but that is troublesome.
'19 MQ XL
[thanks @Planck ]
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TommyDee
Vaporitor
I have a pension for this Flowering Quince only. The mouthpiece was the toughest piece to fabricate yet. I'm working with green wood so the challenge is 10-fold than that of working with seasoned stock.
I've worked with antlers. My dog couldn't wait to start chewing on art pieces.
Now if I could just figure out what the ancients melted stone with...
I've worked with antlers. My dog couldn't wait to start chewing on art pieces.
Now if I could just figure out what the ancients melted stone with...
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
...oh, start a revolution! 
ataxian
PALE BLUE DOT
I love polar bear’s!You da man.
Try quartz.
It’s piezoelectric. No batteries needed.
VapCap to die for. My main squeeze, he sd.
Apply your electric field for Inverse piezoelectric effect to produce ultrasonic sound waves?
No polar bears need apply.
Hot Box with a”M” if not scared?
