VapCap Induction Heater for Desktop and in Car Use

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TommyDee

Vaporitor
A funny thing happened to my IH while I wasn't looking. If you remember, I use a glass vial to hold the VC while heating The vial is about 40mm deep, 1-1/2 inches. Recently I've been noticing a wisp of smoke when pulling the VC from the vial. I knew there were a few flakes in the bottom but this required a closer look. Holy Crap! The vial has been collecting vape honey! Contact with the hot cap is what produced the wisps of smoke. The entire inside of the vial had a thin coating of vape honey. I could finally see it because the hot caps left tracks.

So stupid question what is vape honey exactly? Is it in a class of its own when it comes to extracts?
 
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phattpiggie

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Accessory Maker
@TommyDee I found the same thing.

Vapor must be somehow be escaping. Which when you think about it is impressive given the path it has to take.

Having replaced the glass in a couple of heaters I've seen it first hand.
Travelling with a well used IH could alert unwanted attention if one of those sniffing dogs gets a whiff.
Iso on a qtip removes the majority of it.

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arrjaytea

Bill Cravy
I'm positive this is posted in here, but I can't seem to find it right now for the life of me - but if I wanted to swap out the battery pack on a Portside Mini for something with a little larger capacity, will most 3S 20C Lipo options work, or is there greater specificity I need to look for?
 
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BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Looking forward to a Caldron that's on its way. I read through a good portion of this thread and was back and forth on the plug in vs battery powered. In the end, with my VAS, I'll probably end up with both types. Torches piss me off.

For now, I'll go with the cord and wait to see what @Pipes has up his sleeve for the future. It seems that battery powered IH technology is still in its infancy and has a lot of growth ahead.

I can't wait to go clicky clicky puff puff. :clap:
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
My Caldron came today (a day earlier than expected). Fucking awesome!

It is perfect. Not too strong, not too weak, just perfect hits. The heating is so uniform. This completely transforms the DV experience.

I've only put 3 bowls through it so far, but I already love this little thing. :clap: Thanks @Pipes
 

grogazola

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Looking to get an induction heater to use with my glass pieces. Would the Caldron work well? Or would it be easier just to pick up a PSM?

I can see the end of VAS in sight :drool:

edit - can the port side mini be used upside down safely? as in puffing through a water piece?
 
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BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
The Caldron is one of the best purchases I have made in Cannabisland. As someone else said recently, if not for the IH I doubt I would still be using my vapcap. Together they are a match made in heaven.

I could really use a portable model also, but will save up and wait for the next level of technology. In the meanwhile I was hoping to put together one of those homemade portable IH's on the cheap. I am somewhat handy with a pair of needlenose pliers, but not great at following written descriptions.

Can anyone recommend a decent youtube video that takes a visual learner through the steps from separate parts to a working portable model?

Much thanks!
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
Mine isn't really portable yet but I can step outside with it. Still got the remote battery pack but the unit is palm sized. Open frame is an over-statement. But it really is simple if you forgo the electronic switch.

I use the coil provided with the unit and I compacted it without trimming or bending wire. I reverse the power-in connector and removed the 3-pin coil connector. Made sure all solder joints were solid on both sides of the PCB (optional; I stripped the larger components and remounted them back where they were).

With a 10V input (line losses for me, 9V is the battery-low level) you may see 8 amps but typically at 10V it is only 6 amps. 16 awg throughout is perfect. You need a momentary switch that you can rely on. I use this one:
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...rated to 10 amps or 1/3 HP. You want at least 8 amps capable and you want momentary!

This is the layout. The switch is wired into the negative lead:

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Seriously, a mild bend in the coil wires and solder them along the board. you can see the leg of the coil at 9:00 at the left edge of the board. Nice long solder bead. It has a small Z-bend at the solder pad to clear the leads of the black capacitors. you can see the slight rake in the horizontal section of the coil-wire.

I stabilized the chokes with a bit of Shoe-Go and this is how I carry it. A 5.1mm plug on the end of a short cord, and 3x 18650 power source keeps thing warm for a couple days.

I looked at Digikey for instance and they have momentary at 8 amps with a good side knob for convenience for not too much money. The one I chose is on eBay for a ten-lot. too much for me but these particular switches have a defeat if you pull them. Not very useful but I thought I'd put that out there that yes, this unit has a full-on bypass.

The glass vile is something I had and find useful. If you have a cylinder that fits, you will need to fashion a bottom. A wooden tongue depressor cut short in between the coil will work. Just remember it gets hot. I also centered the vile using crushed Teflon tubes which where subsequently stitched together. Works great for adjustable depth.

And yes, this switch is just Shoe-Go'd to the side. Also a handy feature. You may need some structure... and you'll probably want a box. Haven't found a need for one. Don't get shocked either. Don't put it in your mouth!

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Performance stats: 10 seconds at 10V and 6 amps [60 watts]; Standard cap set to 'hot' [deep soak w/ cap at 4mm from the far end of the coil] going from room temp to drawing at the second click.
 
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BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Mine isn't really portable yet but I can step outside with it. Still got the remote battery pack but the unit is palm sized. Open frame is an over-statement. But it really is simple if you forgo the electronic switch.

I use the coil provided with the unit and I compacted it without trimming or bending wire. I reverse the power-in connector and removed the 3-pin coil connector. Made sure all solder joints were solid on both sides of the PCB (optional; I stripped the larger components and remounted them back where they were).

With a 10V input (line losses for me, 9V is the battery-low level) you may see 8 amps but typically at 10V it is only 6 amps. 16 awg throughout is perfect. You need a momentary switch that you can rely on. I use this one:
s-l500.jpg
...rated to 10 amps or 1/3 HP. You want at least 8 amps capable and you want momentary!

This is the layout. The switch is wired into the negative lead:

Seriously, a mild bend in the coil wires and solder them along the board. you can see the leg of the coil at 9:00 at the left edge of the board. Nice long solder bead. It has a small Z-bend at the solder pad to clear the leads of the black capacitors. you can see the slight rake in the horizontal section of the coil-wire.

I stabilized the chokes with a bit of Shoe-Go and this is how I carry it. A 5.1mm plug on the end of a short cord, and 3x 18650 power source keeps thing warm for a couple days.

I looked at Digikey for instance and they have momentary at 8 amps with a good side knob for convenience for not too much money. The one I chose is on eBay for a ten-lot. too much for me but these particular switches have a defeat if you pull them. Not very useful but I thought I'd put that out there that yes, this unit has a full-on bypass.

The glass vile is something I had and find useful. If you have a cylinder that fits, you will need to fashion a bottom. A wooden tongue depressor cut short in between the coil will work. Just remember it gets hot. I also centered the vile using crushed Teflon tubes which where subsequently stitched together. Works great for adjustable depth.

And yes, this switch is just Shoe-Go'd to the side. Also a handy feature. You may need some structure... and you'll probably want a box. Haven't found a need for one. Don't get shocked either. Don't put it in your mouth!

Performance stats: 10 seconds at 10V and 6 amps [60 watts]; Standard cap set to 'hot' [deep soak w/ cap at 4mm from the far end of the coil] going from room temp to drawing at the second click.

Thanks very much for the details @TommyDee. I have to go through it slowly as this info doesn't sink in easily. I hope to piece one together soon.
 
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grogazola

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Was reading through this thread and I noticed some people say that honey builds up in their glass stems.

Is it possible to remove the glass stem from my Caldron/PSm to clean it?
 

grogazola

Well-Known Member
Appreciate the info @Pipes! :tup:

My glass stem isn’t straight. Would it cause uneven heating? Could take a pic if you’d like!

Any info is appreciated as I’m literally learning about this stuff as I go!
 
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