Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
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Yeah. I can't see it either.
 

CDN_VAShole

I like stuff
Dang brotha, sorry to hear that! I am usually paranoid myself and if I'm driving around with my omni I'll usually stick it in my pocket just in case of things like that. I feel like a weirdo doing it - like "who in the world is gonna steal my vapcap? they won't even know what it is...". But shit I guess it does happen. You have backups I hope?


Yeah man. I sure as hell didnt think that would have happened while i was in the restaurant. I can guarantee the thieves have no idea what they are.

I have lotsa back-ups. Those were just newest to my collection.
 

Socks And Sandals

Well-Known Member
@Socks And Sandals for the milky hits from the Omni-XL, I used a single flame torch turned down low, and heated low on the cap. With constant rotation, sometimes it would take 15-20sec to heat to the second click, which feels like forever. But I was able to produce some large (for vapcaps) amounts of vapor. The Omni-XL actually surprised me a few times with how large the vapor can be.

With a small single torch and heating low on the cap, you do run the risk of combustion. If you feel like you have been heating it for awhile at the base and no click yet, slowly move the flame closer to the cap to initiate the click sooner. Time and practice homie, that's all. :rockon:

One of the things I was meaning to ask, is there really supposed to be one click or two clicks? Or is it both? I always thought it was just 2 clicks (one ready to hit and the other means cooled down and ready to heat up again) but I'm getting 4 sometimes total. I have been wondering this since this manual says 1-2 clicks. But yes, I'm using the dual flame vertigo Z lighter that came with the Omni vap xl kit with dyna coil. This thing eats through fuel in a single session! At this rate, I'm not going to care too much at all when it comes to the quality of fuel with these disposable lighters.. What do you think?

Oh and yes, I've been wondering why I'm hearing two clicks after heating nearly 2 seconds apart. Is it supposed to 2 clicks? Am I suppose to hear that cool down click that fast after heating or is it a second heat up click?


Fellow DV Newbie here. I never even considered a torch for the VC. The entire idea of -not- combusting for me is to loose the torch! I got the $5 IH heater from China and made it mine. I also went an made a bottom from a glass vile so it is always inserted to depth N. I get clouds! And I get only a few good draws. one is the flavor draw and the next is the power draw. #3 pretty much finishes off whatever useful is left. ABV is brown bordering crisp.

The bottom of my cap is still pristine silvery colored. At the edge, it is well heated blue. The bowl on the body is brown/yellow and all but one fin is clear. The heat from the IH concentrates at the open end of the cap and slows the click down significantly. They both happened within a second of each other. These are some very hot but very fulfilling draws. I also add 1 or 2 seconds to each subsequent heating as that helps release the next compound.

I do need better airflow. I'm going for whole bud-lets to see if that helps. Duffy stuff just blocks the screen.

Edit; don't forget that you also have log options for heat on glass. That is a 3rd heat source for VC's.

Funny and I totally agree with your sentiment. I was actually very much against butane vapes and was turned off to this and the sticky brick for far too long because I never liked the idea of using a torch to heat. It wasn't until I was recently affected by the fires here in CA that my Evo Broke and I had to combust for the first time in 3 years.. Lets just say it was nasty... ewww..

Either way, I needed a way to vape in case Edison cuts the power here again.. So that's what sparked the purchase really. So yeah I gotta admit, I'm a desktop electrical vape junkie! I'm sure I can get this to work eventually but really don't want to invest in an Induction Heater right now. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea and an induction heater would better suit me over having to go through fuel like crazy but the real reason why I bought the Omnivap? A secondary back up vape that I can use with no electricity really.

Maybe down the line, but first, Let me get my technique down and find that perfect lighter!

This is how I do it. Maybe this will help you...
For newbies a triple flame is easier to use. I am not a newbie but I still usually use a double of triple flame. I like these a lot...
https://www.amazon.com/Vertigo-Cycl...?keywords=torch+lighter&qid=1572925325&sr=8-5

Thanks I was wondering if these were the same triple flame they have over at dynavap.com. Seems like it is and that's a great price. I am picking up a 2 pack for now.

Oh I'd love to see your technique.. but the video doesn't work. Thanks for the link!
 
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nonamekevin

Well-Known Member
One of the things I was meaning to ask, is there really supposed to be one click or two clicks? Or is it both? I always thought it was just 2 clicks (one ready to hit and the other means cooled down and ready to heat up again) but I'm getting 4 sometimes total. I have been wondering this since this manual says 1-2 clicks. But yes, I'm using the dual flame vertigo Z lighter that came with the Omni vap xl kit with dyna coil. This thing eats through fuel in a single session! At this rate, I'm not going to care too much at all when it comes to the quality of fuel with these disposable lighters.. What do you think?

Oh and yes, I've been wondering why I'm hearing two clicks after heating nearly 2 seconds apart. Is it supposed to 2 clicks? Am I suppose to hear that cool down click that fast after heating or is it a second heat up click?




Funny and I totally agree with your sentiment. I was actually very much against butane vapes and was turned off to this and the sticky brick for far too long because I never liked the idea of using a torch to heat. It wasn't until I was recently affected by the fires here in CA that my Evo Broke and I had to combust for the first time in 3 years.. Lets just say it was nasty... ewww..

Either way, I needed a way to vape in case Edison cuts the power here again.. So that's what sparked the purchase really. So yeah I gotta admit, I'm a desktop electrical vape junkie! I'm sure I can get this to work eventually but really don't want to invest in an Induction Heater right now. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea and an induction heater would better suit me over having to go through fuel like crazy but the real reason why I bought the Omnivap? A secondary back up vape that I can use with no electricity really.

Maybe down the line, but first, Let me get my technique down and find that perfect lighter!



Thanks I was wondering if these were the same triple flame they have over at dynavap.com. Seems like it is and that's a great price. I am picking up a 2 pack for now.

Oh I'd love to see your technique.. but the video doesn't work. Thanks for the link!
I've always had two clicks for the heat cycle, two clicks for the cool cycle. Getting more familiar with the cap will lead you to getting bigger hits.

Also, check out a single flame torch, or do a "preheat" cycle like @thejackalsmark suggested. You need more heat (energy) to get the large clouds.
 

thejackalsmark

Just another "Person Of Interest"
One of the things I was meaning to ask, is there really supposed to be one click or two clicks? Or is it both? I always thought it was just 2 clicks (one ready to hit and the other means cooled down and ready to heat up again) but I'm getting 4 sometimes total. I have been wondering this since this manual says 1-2 clicks. But yes, I'm using the dual flame vertigo Z lighter that came with the Omni vap xl kit with dyna coil. This thing eats through fuel in a single session! At this rate, I'm not going to care too much at all when it comes to the quality of fuel with these disposable lighters.. What do you think?

Oh and yes, I've been wondering why I'm hearing two clicks after heating nearly 2 seconds apart. Is it supposed to 2 clicks? Am I suppose to hear that cool down click that fast after heating or is it a second heat up click?




Funny and I totally agree with your sentiment. I was actually very much against butane vapes and was turned off to this and the sticky brick for far too long because I never liked the idea of using a torch to heat. It wasn't until I was recently affected by the fires here in CA that my Evo Broke and I had to combust for the first time in 3 years.. Lets just say it was nasty... ewww..

Either way, I needed a way to vape in case Edison cuts the power here again.. So that's what sparked the purchase really. So yeah I gotta admit, I'm a desktop electrical vape junkie! I'm sure I can get this to work eventually but really don't want to invest in an Induction Heater right now. Don't get me wrong, I love the idea and an induction heater would better suit me over having to go through fuel like crazy but the real reason why I bought the Omnivap? A secondary back up vape that I can use with no electricity really.

Maybe down the line, but first, Let me get my technique down and find that perfect lighter!



Thanks I was wondering if these were the same triple flame they have over at dynavap.com. Seems like it is and that's a great price. I am picking up a 2 pack for now.

Oh I'd love to see your technique.. but the video doesn't work. Thanks for the link!



The cap on your tip has TWO metal disks crimped into the top of it.

Those "bi-metal" discs flex and pop when they reach the proper temperature.

That second disc is considered a BACKUP in case the first fails.

So technically there could be FOUR clicks altogether. There should be two when it reaches heating temp and two when it cools down but you may not always hear them distinctly.

Your cool down time is probably about right if you're putting your vapcap on a magnet to heatsync it after hitting it.

With a good heat sink it only takes a couple or several seconds on average for it to reach back down to the cool down click.

Myself, I go off the first click I hear in either direction and ignore the second one. If anything, I would consider that SECOND click in the heat up, to be the "EXTRA one or two seconds PAST the click" that people talk about.

Easy way to keep track of it and NOT combust.

I hope that helps. :tup:

Happy Vaping! :leaf:
 
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Socks And Sandals

Well-Known Member
I've always had two clicks for the heat cycle, two clicks for the cool cycle. Getting more familiar with the cap will lead you to getting bigger hits.

Also, check out a single flame torch, or do a "preheat" cycle like @thejackalsmark suggested. You need more heat (energy) to get the large clouds.

That's pretty much what it is now bro. 2 clicks for heat up and 2 for cooldown.. In the beginning, I could have sworn it was just one and one. Perhaps I was wrong and it was always 2 and 2. Thanks for the clarification!

The cap on your tip has TWO metal disks crimped into the top of it.

Those "bi-metal" discs flex and pop when they reach the proper temperature.

That second disc is considered a BACKUP in case the first fails.

So technically there would be FOUR clicks altogether. There should be two when it reaches heating temp and two when it cools down but you may not always hear them distinctly.

Your cool down time is probably about right if you're putting your vapcap on a magnet to heatsync it after hitting it.

With a good heat sink it only takes a couple or several seconds on average for it to reach back down to the cool down click.

Myself, I go off the first click I hear in either direction and ignore the second one. If anything, that second click in the heat up, I would consider the EXTRA one or two seconds PAST the click that people talk about.

Easy way to keep track of it and NOT combust.

I hope that helps. :tup:

Happy Vaping! :leaf:

Now this is what I'm talking about! A detailed explanation from someone in the know! Love the technology behind the SS cap! Not sure If dynavap has already explained this in their videos or not because I haven't had time to watch them all yet. But thank you so much for this! It really gives me a much better piece of mind just knowing I'm doing it correctly and understanding the tech behind the cap! Like I said to nonamekevin, I could have been mistaken on the clicks.. perhaps it always was 2 for ready and 2 for ready to be heated again.

I do have one question though, If the first disk inside the SS cap fails, there will only be one then for ready? Only reason why I'm asking is because I'm under the impression now that it should be 2 and 2 (4 clicks total) and if it isn't maybe it's time for a New cap then? Just curious.

I gotta admit I came into this purchase a little half cocked and not that informed, I always research my purchases before hand (especially when it comes to tech lol) but just needed this vape in case we do go another 2 days without power again.

Thanks fellas, you've really helped and eased my mind... I really appreciate it!
 

thejackalsmark

Just another "Person Of Interest"
That's pretty much what it is now bro. 2 clicks for heat up and 2 for cooldown.. In the beginning, I could have sworn it was just one and one. Perhaps I was wrong and it was always 2 and 2. Thanks for the clarification!



Now this is what I'm talking about! A detailed explanation from someone in the know! Love the technology behind the SS cap! Not sure If dynavap has already explained this in their videos or not because I haven't had time to watch them all yet. But thank you so much for this! It really gives me a much better piece of mind just knowing I'm doing it correctly. Like I said to nonamekevin, I could have been mistaken on the clicks.. perhaps it always was 2 for ready and 2 for ready to be heated again.

I do have one question though, If the first disk inside the SS cap fails, there will only be one then for ready? Only reason why I'm asking is because I'm under the impression now that it should be 2 and 2 (4 clicks total) and if it isn't maybe it's time for another cap? Just curious.

I gotta admit I came into this purchase a little half cocked and not that informed, I always research my purchases before hand (especially when it comes to tech lol) but just needed this vape in case we do go another 2 days without power again.

Thanks fellas, you've really helped and eased my mind... I really appreciate it!


You're more than welcome! We're here to help each other. :tup:

That's correct. If one of the disks fails for some reason then you should only hear one click at proper heating temp and one click at cool down.

Sometimes they will click so closely together that it will simply sound like one click or the second click so softly as to not even be heard.

As for the half-cocked thing, You got lucky! :nod:

The dynavaps are EXCELLENT vaporizers, once you get the feel of them and start to refine your Technique.

Also, @nonamekevin mentioned single jet flame torches.

In my humble opinion if you have to pick any number of flames, and only one, go for a single.

The reasoning is that it gives you the most flexibility to fine-tune your experience in a surgical manner and once you've developed proficient skill using it you can use pretty much any fucking thing just as well.

The double, triple, and there are QUADRUPLE flame torches out there, simply do this faster and make it easier to do so outside in the elements.

Also, when you put your cap in the flame, just touch it to the TIP of the BLUE OUTER HALO of the flame. NOT the DARKER Blue part of the Flame closer to the lighter.

That will give your tip more time to heat and evenly cook your herb, before the click.

That extra heating, will also help with those bigger clouds you want. :rockon:

I use an Aomai flint wheel single jet when I use a torch.
Aomai-jet-torch.jpg


It doesn't have the highest butane capacity but it's easy to refill on the go and if you're just doing a quick session it's more than adequate. :D

The best thing about that lighter is that it has a switch for on and off.

When you slide the switch on and flick the Flint wheel, the jet flame ignites and will stay that way until you slide the switch off.

So if you have carpal tunnel or arthritis or something similar, it is much much easier on your hands to use over a prolonged session than many of the push button models. :tup:

Happy Vaping! :leaf::wave:
 
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Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
I can guarantee the thieves have no idea what they are.

Yeah. I suspect that they will be used as "one-hitter" chillums, rather than vaporizers. It is what it is.

I do have one question though, If the first disk inside the SS cap fails, there will only be one then for ready? Only reason why I'm asking is because I'm under the impression now that it should be 2 and 2 (4 clicks total) and if it isn't maybe it's time for a New cap then? Just curious.

It varies. I almost always hear two clicks for heat-up, and two clicks for heat-down with a new cap. Sometimes that turns into one click for heat-up and one click for heat-down after a lot of use (as if both disks sort of begin to cick together), and sometimes I do not. It depends on the cap. Nothing at all wrong with either. It is what it is. By the time a cap gets enough use that there may only be one up-click and one down-click, I've fully learned that cap and probably only pay minimal attention to the click anyway. Every cap is unique, once it gets broken-in.
 

RogueGuy

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Single flame in my humble opinion.

Look! Puffitup.com sent me porn!

This shipment includes the following items:

Item # Description Qty
PHT.STM-DV_ZBTWST Phatt Piggie - Phatt Piggie Custom DynaVap Stem - Zebrano Twist 1
Stickers 1


Tracking typically takes 6-8 hours to update on USPS.com.

Thank you for your business and we look forward to serving you in the future!

Tracking says Thursday delivery:rockon:
 

someTooL

Well-Known Member
Single flame in my humble opinion.

Look! Puffitup.com sent me porn!

This shipment includes the following items:

Item # Description Qty
PHT.STM-DV_ZBTWST Phatt Piggie - Phatt Piggie Custom DynaVap Stem - Zebrano Twist 1
Stickers 1


Tracking typically takes 6-8 hours to update on USPS.com.

Thank you for your business and we look forward to serving you in the future!

Tracking says Thursday delivery:rockon:

Beautiful choice. All 4 are stunning pieces. Gotta give a thumbs up to the PIU crew and @phattpiggie. Hopefully future offerings to be had.
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
I do have one question though, If the first disk inside the SS cap fails, there will only be one then for ready? Only reason why I'm asking is because I'm under the impression now that it should be 2 and 2 (4 clicks total) and if it isn't maybe it's time for a New cap then? Just curious.


This:

Myself, I go off the first click I hear in either direction and ignore the second one. If anything, I would consider that SECOND click in the heat up, to be the "EXTRA one or two seconds PAST the click" that people talk about.
 

Jill NYC

Portable Hoarder
I got my pink M last night along with the (free!!) low heat cap (thanks @VapCap - you guys rock!!!)

First thoughts on low heat cap:
I think the low heat cap is really useful when using the IH with new batteries - I think it will be really helpful for those who have aggressively hot heaters. The click happens, and you can take your time removing without worrying about accidental combustion.
I left it in past click a bit and was getting some of the best tasting, large clouds i have gotten in a long while.

Also, this is my first M 19 and very happy with the look, feel and performance.
 

thejackalsmark

Just another "Person Of Interest"
Make sure your herb is air dried to get good clouds, if it's too moist it will be wispy. When I have super fresh herb I lay it out on a paper towel for 20 mins and then I grind and load into my dynavap m 2919. Big clouds every time It really works try it.

Excellent tip! :tup:

AND, I kinda WANT one of those
"2919 M's"! :rockon::rofl::rockon:

@RogueGuy Thursday deliveries on Tuesday, ROCK! :nod: :tup:

Happy Vaping! :leaf:
 

TommyDee

Vaporitor
I got my pink M last night along with the (free!!) low heat cap (thanks @VapCap - you guys rock!!!)

First thoughts on low heat cap:
I think the low heat cap is really useful when using the IH with new batteries - I think it will be really helpful for those who have aggressively hot heaters. The click happens, and you can take your time removing without worrying about accidental combustion.
I left it in past click a bit and was getting some of the best tasting, large clouds i have gotten in a long while.

Also, this is my first M 19 and very happy with the look, feel and performance.

I think the low temp cap will be very popular with IH peeps. I'm already thinking of a backup timer on the IH would be useful. I know I am missing out on nuances easily extracted from the LB. I think timers and power level manipulation can add a few new tricks to this pony.
 

Dynalowrider

Well-Known Member
There is a long list of things that make me smack myself in the head and say,"why didn't I think of that?). At the top of that list is @thejackalsmark idea of cap adjustment, bent digger outer. Now that is something I should have thought of. It's a wonder I can breathe, where I keep my head. The double heating is what I call "pushing the click", both are fantastic ideas. Thanks for the suggestion. Doc
 

thejackalsmark

Just another "Person Of Interest"
There is a long list of things that make me smack myself in the head and say,"why didn't I think of that?). At the top of that list is @thejackalsmark idea of cap adjustment, bent digger outer. Now that is something I should have thought of. It's a wonder I can breathe, where I keep my head. The double heating is what I call "pushing the click", both are fantastic ideas. Thanks for the suggestion. Doc

Man, When you folks who have been members here for a long time throw me a shout-out or a compliment, I am truly humbled. Thank You! :nod:

Most everything I know and have learned about the subject of vaping herb, as well as various info and tips about the dynavaps, I've learned from ALL OF YOU, in THIS thread! :tup:

I just try to pay it forward and pass on useful shit where I can.
I couldn't help ANYONE else, if the awesome members of this forum hadn't helped ME. :clap:

I would love nothing more than to claim the credit for those two ideas, but I didn't originate either one of them. The double Heating suggestion was originally from someone here in the Forum.

I feel like an ass not being able to remember who. :bang:

And I'm 95% sure that the cap adjustment trick was a tip from someone on the DV Reddit.

Happy Vaping! :leaf: :wave:
 
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RogueGuy

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Yah, @Dynalowrider, @thejackalsmark has some awesome insights and ideas. Hes my go to beta tester. And as much as i can see how people might not want to bend their cap, i think its a really great idea.

I may have to make the ultimate "Sophie's Choice" tomorrow. I may receive both my @phattpiggie and my ArtistsDaughter at the same time!! How to choose, how to choose?
 

phattpiggie

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
@RogueGuy thank you for the support. You're not the only one who 'pestered' PIU. Randy said they had a list going even before they arrived.

@someTooL if this order sells well enough then there will be others.

@stark1 International shipping with Royal Mail is $13 so compared to other carriers it's cheap.

Condensers have been in all my stems from the beginning it's only the Ti hot ends that are 'new'.

I figured if I'm offering airport's then they'd best be bloody good ones.

Fully open, fully closed or somewhere in between the option is now available.

The adjusting mechanism works well but as ever this is just the first version and things are in the works for a sexier Ti PHAAF.
 
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