Discontinued Splinter Z by RBT

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Psyentist

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Lost Vape Drone dna250c at EightVape for $94 shipped after code 7BP6GF4

https://www.eightvape.com/products/lost-vape-drone-bf-dna250c-squonk-mod?sscid=a1k3_ep658

Vaporl has the silver and amber colorway for $84 preorder from a Hong Kong warehouse.

I know this isn't on topic but so many new Splinter heads ask us for mod recommendations and it's rare to find a good deal on a DNA250C these days.

I use a drone with my splinters. I think it’s the best mod I’ve tried for these 510 vapes. I also have a paranormal and a geekvape legend. Performance between the drone and the paranormal are the same obviously, the drone just has a nicer form factor. Fits in the hand better and has a centred 510 pin so no overhang. I had been hoping that a battery door from the triade would fit on the drone to cover up the hole, but no dice unfortunately. I’d probably get a triade if they were available. I didn’t at the the time as all my batteries are in pairs, didn’t want to start mixing them up, and the 510 pin wasn’t quite as centred.
As far as performance between different splinters go, I’ve got 2 US Z’s and had a Zv1 that I gave away. I think the Zv1 was better than one of my US ones, this US one has a bit more draw restriction than the other and I get hotspots, while being not quite as good as my other US one. Seems like there can be a bit of variance between the US ones.
 

Summer

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Ryan did an IG stream 11 hours ago working on Mi2s & assembling the Giveaway Splinters(Zs?). It's 30 min. long.

There's also a 2nd 1 hour stream up from 22 hours ago of him assembling Mi2s. Once it hits 24 hours it's gone.
 
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Chandler

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Started at 40w. Damn. Clouds from the first draw, strong vapor,, Hurt the lungs a little. Smooth going in irritation after the session. 36w seems to be the happy medium right now between me n this mod. More testing required, but i think the effects were better at 36 then 40w
 

RxPlorer

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Started at 40w. Damn. Clouds from the first draw, strong vapor,, Hurt the lungs a little. Smooth going in irritation after the session. 36w seems to be the happy medium right now between me n this mod. More testing required, but i think the effects were better at 36 then 40w

that’s where I’ve landed as well. My preheat boosts up to 45w for 2 seconds, then 36w for 15 second draws
 

FLelder ent

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agreed. Ive been 45in for two weeks, all g

Started at 40w. Damn. Clouds from the first draw, strong vapor,, Hurt the lungs a little. Smooth going in irritation after the session. 36w seems to be the happy medium right now between me n this mod. More testing required, but i think the effects were better at 36 then 40w

I bumped up to 45 watts, got nice vapor, and now the ABV browns some what. I'll continue "experimenting" between 35 and 45 watts. :peace:
 
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someTooL

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Started at 40w. Damn. Clouds from the first draw, strong vapor,, Hurt the lungs a little. Smooth going in irritation after the session. 36w seems to be the happy medium right now between me n this mod. More testing required, but i think the effects were better at 36 then 40w

I followed suit last night w/ Zv2. Started at 36 and made my way to 38.7. I really like the stronger hit from the short stem and perfect abv. Really thinking about getting a backup as I see this being used a lot in my future :nod:
 

bossman

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The Lost Vape Drone arrived yesterday from that deal I posted a page back. It works great with the custom bubinga Z so far. The DNA250C is the best performing of the DNA boards and allows me to get big quick clouds while still stretching the flavor beyond the first hit.

The Drone feels flimsier than the Paranormal and it's not as nicely finished but the lighter weight and better ergos are welcome and the 510 placement balances a Z well. The black is a matte finish. The plastic battery cover feels cheap and doesn't use magnets. Both cells are positive side up like the VT75D and not one each way like the Paranormal.

A short glass stem will barely fit in the squonk tank compartment but the ground glass joint is too fat and interferes with the connection tabs of the plastic battery cover. The metal tube that receives the squonk feed also gets in the way. The silicone bottle is not a good option for a stash chamber and really the mod is too big for a pocket anyway so the squonk quirk offers nothing apart from a larger size and lighter weight combo that is comfortable in the hand.

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Chandler

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I don't get why DNA mods are so much harder to find then 6 months ago.

I was about to ask why, if the DNA 250c is the be all end all of current mod tech. Why are they out of stock everywhere? I can find the drone squonk for $160CAD and one another which sells for $199-229CAD. But sold out most places...

@bossman yes, thanks for the pics n thoughts. I May pick one up shortly
 

bossman

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I'd speculate the mod box market is entirely driven by ecig vapers and the glut of cheaper TC mods dried up demand for mods with these pricier dna250c boards.

Troy and Pete don't know the Splinter mod and config options as well as the devotees on this thread. They do great work and produce good reviews, maybe they just have too many other devices to review that are moving more volume and relevant to more viewers.

Speaking of the divine performance of a Splinter Z on a DNA250C, the Drone is now paired with a wenge custom Z and the performance is even better than the bubinga custom from my previous post. I love how you can just tweak the resistance on the HerbieVonVapster ecigprofiles and get this kind of flavor and vapor quality.

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GoldenBud

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I'd speculate the mod box market is entirely driven by ecig vapers and the glut of cheaper TC mods dried up demand for mods with these pricier dna250c boards.

Troy and Pete don't know the Splinter mod and config options as well as the devotees on this thread. They do great work and produce good reviews, maybe they just have too many other devices to review that are moving more volume and relevant to more viewers.

Speaking of the divine performance of a Splinter Z on a DNA250C, the Drone is now paired with a wenge custom Z and the performance is even better than the bubinga custom from my previous post. I love how you can just tweak the resistance on the HerbieVonVapster ecigprofiles and get this kind of flavor and vapor quality.

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I haven't tried the Z with TC, only with 50W with DNA250C or 45W with DNA75 and it had been amazing, huge clouds.
You find yourself like the TC mod better than Wattage? by the bigger clouds
 

Chandler

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@bossman awesome your convincing me to purchase the drone before there are no more DNA 250c available! I'm curious as to what other vaporizers you use and or compare your Splinter Z's to?

I couldn't wait. Squonk has been ordered. Every other site (one or two) that had the same vape in stock, selling for either $199 or $229. The paranormal was also available @$199.

Looking forward to see how it pairs with my Z. Looking forward to TC.
Can someone please provide a link to the software needed for our purpose?
I'd like to verse myself before it arrives!

Thanks
 
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bossman

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I haven't tried the Z with TC, only with 50W with DNA250C or 45W with DNA75 and it had been amazing, huge clouds.
You find yourself like the TC mod better than Wattage? by the bigger clouds
I definitely recommend the HerbieVonVapster ecigprofiles, sorry to repeat that so often. I personally use TC with my dna mods because I can consistently get dense vapor while stretching out the terp hits for flavor. The XL8R stems are also a default for me; the flavor suffers a bit but the cooling is worth it for the big hits I prefer.

I do like dna wattage better than non-dna. I tend to keep my TC resistance high enough for dense vapor production with a displayed temp from 360 to 385°. I don't care what the real world temp is. When I pair a Z or a V1/2 with any new mod I start with the Herbie profiles and then nudge the resistance around (i.e. up) until it's quick to fog up the parlor at those lower temps and showing really even abv that remains shockingly fresh looking through the first few big hits.

What I can't get as reliably from dna wattage is that combination of dense clouds and connoisseur level control of the roasting. With wattage it's more like a battery powered Sticky Brick or log where the heat is quick and clueless unless the wattage is low enough you have to wait for it. Dna wattage is an easier way to share a Splinter because there's no need to understand or work with the heater. Otherwise I stick with TC.

Some of my Splinter and mod combos get all their work done from 350 to 390°, others have a more normal sounding range and finish nicely at 430°.

@bossman awesome your convincing me to purchase the drone before there are no more DNA 250c available! I'm curious as to what other vaporizers you use and or compare your Splinter Z's to?
Sorry for being slow to reply! I should revisit my signature as I've sold stuff off since last I listed my devices there. Anyway, here's a link to the ecigprofiles:
https://forum.evolvapor.com/files/file/567-fcshare/

Get this theme too:
https://forum.evolvapor.com/files/file/109-✪-therion-paranormal-mirage-and-others-replay-ready-english-italian-✪/

I got carried away answering your question about what I'm comparing my Splinters to:

I have every model of Splinter and Splinter Z. I also have a limba Sticky Brick, Omni, Omni XL, 2019 M, Fierce, Mighty, Lil Bud, and a premium maple Enano. I've sold a linx Gaia and given away a Solo II. I also just sold my Fury 2 but with the intention of replacing it with the Fury Edge.

The og Brick is the star of the show apart from the murder of Splinters. The hits are big and smooth with great flavor and a satisfying ritual. Mine would get more use if not for the fact that I can fully extract three Splinter baskets worth in three big hits. I prefer to pump the breaks and blow out more flavorful clouds over the course of an evening. The Brick is the only vape that hangs with my best Splinter/dna combos.

Session vapes can't compete with any Splinter, so the Fierce, Fury 2, and Mighty are relegated to sharing situations, especially with people who have no idea what they're doing. Any new person swayed by the absurd hype around the Mighty would do well to get a $60 V1, a $40 rxg3d and fuck it a ZV2 and a black Drone and still have fifty bucks left over.

I love a VapCap with an induction heater and use both my Pipes Jarhead and Fluxer Deluxe pretty much exclusively. The ritual and efficiency are the areas where vapcaps shine. If you're on a budget or like to stretch your weed out you can't go wrong with any vapcap.

The Lil Bud was my first on demand convection vape and it's a handy unregulated option but the modular Splinter platform and effective XL8R stems are my jam now. I got on the Milaana 3 preorder to have an unregulated option that's compatible with my most effective cooling stems. The enano is also seldom used because it's slow to warm up and has a usable range of 6 to 7.5 on that dial on the cable. If I was an all day medical person I'm sure I'd appreciate logs more.

Last but not least, I'm in batch 4 for the Nomad and hope there's something like the Enano ice stem standardized by the time my number comes up as I doubt the short air path will suit me otherwise.
 
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eideal852

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Last but not least, I'm in batch 4 for the Nomad and hope there's something like the Enano ice stem standardized by the time my number comes up as I doubt the short air path will suit me otherwise.
Fuck me, I was two then three, and now embarrassed to ever ask again, but Nomad will be my white whale.
I punked out due to cost (by the time I'm as custom as turns me on, I've priced myself out...)
 
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bossman

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Word. I'm using the wenge Drone combo in wattage and it's reminding me that I don't really even prefer TC. DNAc wattage is glorious, it just doesn't pace the extraction the same way. TC functions more like the temp stepping I tend to do with session vapes. This in contrast to wattage where I can end up with a high temp hit just by waiting longer for the heater.

Speaking of which, @GoldenBud you must finish bowls quickly at 50W. I'm starting at 35 to 37W on the warmed up wenge and the vapor production is already splendid. It's a shame there isn't an available mod like the rxg3d but with the dna250c board. It doesn't disappoint in either mode.
 

someTooL

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Been using a Reuleaux RX GEN3 TC Box Mod on wattage mode (36-40) paired with the Zv2 all week with excellent results. Not sure if this mod can even be used or upgraded for anything different. Wish I could adjust fire time from 10 seconds. Currently I just pulse it. I also wish I’d started with a Z along time ago.
 

Shit Snacks

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Been using a Reuleaux RX GEN3 TC Box Mod on wattage mode (36-40) paired with the Zv2 all week with excellent results. Not sure if this mod can even be used or upgraded for anything different. Wish I could adjust fire time from 10 seconds. Currently I just pulse it. I also wish I’d started with a Z along time ago.

Custom firmware like ArcticFox and surmyevic can raise it up to 60s and 25s respectively along with autofire option. But stock firmware should be able to go up to 15s with secret menu (accessed by pushing up and fire together I believe, but may need to search to be sure) at least the RX Gen3 Dual and Sinuous P80 have this feature so I would expect the same here
 

bossman

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35-38w for me right now. I need to stir every 2-3 draws. bowl done in 3-4 draws max. At those watts Having fun, n positive effects, scorching though.

Trying to figure out how to draw without scorching. N without lowering wattage
What mod are you using now? If you're finishing a bowl in four hits maybe try slightly lower wattage. Do a manual preheat at 45W for five or ten seconds to get it going since the Z is slow off the line.

Rest assured your new Drone will solve that scorching issue with a quickness. I've been loving wattage from 35 to 45w without any scorching or center hot spots with the wenge/Drone combo.
 
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