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Micro-dosing

hinglemccringleberry

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I'm still early in the microdose journey but really impressed with my experience :tup:. I have been slowly decreasing my cannabis use from week to week without affecting the experience very much. And after a number of weeks now, I'm consistently down somewhere to about 1/5 the amount in a bowl compared to my previous cannabis use. And I've sampled even lower amounts down to 1/8 or less with impressive results.

After spending a number of weeks slowly ratcheting down my dose and trying small amounts I felt like going with a little more indulgent experience for a change and found the right time for it. I bumped the dose a little (from 1/5 as mentioned earlier to 1/4 of previous high dosing). That bump combined with the first use after the weekly break brought a very impressive and potent experience. It definitely reminded me of the much higher original dose experiences. Potent :science::science:.
Microdosing has worked extremely well with me :leaf:. It's flexible and experiences are strong. Highly recommended.
Hell yeah, stepping down gradually is the way to go. I'm doing this whilst gradually increasing CBD flower consumption. I only spring for CBD that has 0.1%THC MAX verified by a lab- by itself, not enough to make me feel high. This has actually make stepping down enjoyable. I'm down to blending 0.02 of THC flower with anywhere from 0.02-0.05 of CBD and it feels great.
Consuming too much THC herb has become a lose-lose - it's wasteful and it brings up paranoia anxiety and foggy headed laziness. I'm to the point where I don't consume THC flower by itself at all anymore. The high has too many of the negative characteristics. But stick a bunch of CBD flower in with it and control your ratio and it's a whole nother animal.
 
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joner

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As far as I know, the insertion of double screens (1 above the load & 1 below it) in the stem joint is for those who want larger loads than the basket allows.

I believe @fuby is referring to just lining one rimmed basket, and placing another rimmed basket inside (think stacking two ball caps together to put in a closet). The essentially "sandwches" the small load and keeps it in place/not flying about.

FWIW, I've never had much luck with it (Never tried extensively tho), couldn't get any visible vapor, but I may have had my temps too low. I find higher temps critical to microdosing very small amounts (i differentiate this kind of microdosing, as it is somewhat subjective, and one may find 0.1g to be a microdose - which is a full rimmed screen).
 
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Alexis

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Hell yeah, stepping down gradually is the way to go. I'm doing this whilst gradually increasing CBD flower consumption. I only spring for CBD that has 0.1%THC MAX verified by a lab- by itself, not enough to make me feel high. This has actually make stepping down enjoyable. I'm down to blending 0.02 of THC flower with anywhere from 0.02-0.05 of CBD and it feels great.
Consuming too much THC herb has become a lose-lose - it's wasteful and it brings up paranoia anxiety and foggy headed laziness. I'm to the point where I don't consume THC flower by itself at all anymore. The high has too many of the negative characteristics. But stick a bunch of CBD flower in with it and control your ratio and it's a whole nother animal.
You know I don't think I thought it through fully and clearly on this because I can't tolerate CBD in any form I have tried and I would not be able to use the CBD flowers available because of fertiliser allergies unless I was to produce my own sometime so I fairly considered CBD or giving it any thought.

But what I am now recognising and thinking from reading your post- the reason we have these CBD flowers all over the place with such low percentage of THC is primarily and originally I think due to legal reasons and not intentional selection so much.

The 0.2% THC cap, I always thought this was a shame because my understanding was that the THC is incredibly complementary to the CBD medicinally.

With as we absolutely all know, no just or valid cause for outlawing THC in any country in the world and imposing such restrictions on CBD products.

So I always felt that the assholes that make up the rules against us and our freedom had effectively reduced the potential effectiveness of CBD products in general.

But then we have almost a culture emerging now where people are really appreciating the almost total lack of THC in the CBD flowers, as you gesture here yourself.

So I figure it's not such a bad thing providing you can can get your THC from somewhere else if you feel the need for it.
 

hinglemccringleberry

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You know I don't think I thought it through fully and clearly on this because I can't tolerate CBD in any form I have tried and I would not be able to use the CBD flowers available because of fertiliser allergies unless I was to produce my own sometime so I fairly considered CBD or giving it any thought.

But what I am now recognising and thinking from reading your post- the reason we have these CBD flowers all over the place with such low percentage of THC is primarily and originally I think due to legal reasons and not intentional selection so much.

The 0.2% THC cap, I always thought this was a shame because my understanding was that the THC is incredibly complementary to the CBD medicinally.

With as we absolutely all know, no just or valid cause for outlawing THC in any country in the world and imposing such restrictions on CBD products.

So I always felt that the assholes that make up the rules against us and our freedom had effectively reduced the potential effectiveness of CBD products in general.

But then we have almost a culture emerging now where people are really appreciating the almost total lack of THC in the CBD flowers, as you gesture here yourself.

So I figure it's not such a bad thing providing you can can get your THC from somewhere else if you feel the need for it.
I'm sorry to hear about your condition that keeps you from using CBD. You said you've tried it in oil/concentrated form as well and its still a no-go, right?
Yeah, I really just love the act of vaporizing bud. I love it more than I love getting high. So I have to use CBD bud if I want to vape to satisfaction since doing it with that much THC bud would wreck my life. And many people report a very subtle altered state that can't be called a high, but still gives a sense of relaxation. I can confirm this. It's subtle but it's nice.
 
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MinnBobber

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I'm sorry to hear about your condition that keeps you from using CBD. You said you've tried it in oil/concentrated form as well and its still a no-go, right?
Yeah, I really just love the act of vaporizing bud. I love it more than I love getting high. So I have to use CBD bud if I want to vape to satisfaction since doing it with that much THC bud would wreck my life. And many people report a very subtle altered state that can't be called a high, but still gives a sense of relaxation. I can confirm this. It's subtle but it's nice.
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X2 on CBD effects

It may not be psychoactive but I call it psycho-semi-active :sherlock:

I do sort of say that reluctantly, for fear the feds will make it illegal again :(
 

chris 71

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Hell yeah, stepping down gradually is the way to go. I'm doing this whilst gradually increasing CBD flower consumption. I only spring for CBD that has 0.1%THC MAX verified by a lab- by itself, not enough to make me feel high. This has actually make stepping down enjoyable. I'm down to blending 0.02 of THC flower with anywhere from 0.02-0.05 of CBD and it feels great.
Consuming too much THC herb has become a lose-lose - it's wasteful and it brings up paranoia anxiety and foggy headed laziness. I'm to the point where I don't consume THC flower by itself at all anymore. The high has too many of the negative characteristics. But stick a bunch of CBD flower in with it and control your ratio and it's a whole nother animal.

Hi there , i too use a lot of cbd bud still use low thc bud too but mostly cbd .

Im just curious how do you measure such tiny amounts your talking 100ths of a gram right ? 0.02 would be 2 , 100ths of a gram right ?

Thats like taking a gram of bud grinding it up , deviding the gram into 100 seperate piles and then using two of those tiny piles how do you messure this tiny amout ? I would think it soo small how would you even vape it ?

A gram would last soo long . And you could basicly call your self a non user lol

Not trying to call you out on this or anything but is this really right am i understanding this like .02 equaling 2 100ths of a gram ? Or am i miss understanding the math ?
 

Alexis

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I'm sorry to hear about your condition that keeps you from using CBD. You said you've tried it in oil/concentrated form as well and its still a no-go, right?
Yeah, I really just love the act of vaporizing bud. I love it more than I love getting high. So I have to use CBD bud if I want to vape to satisfaction since doing it with that much THC bud would wreck my life. And many people report a very subtle altered state that can't be called a high, but still gives a sense of relaxation. I can confirm this. It's subtle but it's nice.
Hello mate. I can definitely relate to all of that I mean I don't vape for fun or for the sake of it myself because I'm kind of allergic to weed in all forms it's still the only drug I can tolerate just about and my depression is so deep and severe due to everything in my life and all-round condition and situation that cannabis has been very hard for me to abandon.

So I vaporize primarily for effects. I have cut down a lot in recent times and my tolerance is much slower now which is a bonus. Largely because the crop we had this year is leagues above on potency particularly THC content.

We have never produced weed with such a Potent psychoactive uplifting effect. So really although I'm consuming less I guess that on account of the higher tolerance it's kind of evened out and I've actually been considerably more medicated since harvest a few months ago.

As soon as I Began vaporizing a few scraggly leafy buds which got taken off one of the plants 4 weeks before harvest, it was having a stronger effect on my mind whereby if I had an appointment in less than 1 hour after vaporizing I would be wishing I had a little over an hour so just collect my head lol.

And it's been a couple of years since I have actually ever felt like I was really stoned and needed a little time to fix up before making a phone call or going to an appointment or something for example.

One-time recently I had to visit the nearby hospital for an endoscopy on my doctors request and I got pretty vaped beforehand and was fairly off my head throughout the procedure which was pretty costly because I declined both the anaesthetic throat spray and sedative which is unusual but I didn't want any unnecessary toxins in my body and there were other personal complications where it was better I did not have those treatments.

So I have cut down, but maybe not exaclt. Although I do think my tolerance is definitely lower and I am only using 0.2 to 0.3 grams some days, and getting more mileage.

But for sure, THC is quite powerful and not always agreeable. It definitely spikes my anxiety if I have a little too much. I did actually consider growing some high CBD varieties next summer.

I use edibles daily for Vital digestive support which we make by infusing coconut oil with buds and ABV separately. However I really wish at times that I could take the edibles for the digestive support without getting stoned especially on top of vaporizing when I don't want to add to my buzz I just need the digestive support.

And yes @mccringleberry I cant take CBD oil or any such concentrated products without an immune response, not even one drop of CBD oil is tolerable or worthwhile with the suffering I have to go through respiratory wise, even though I'm not technically allergic to it and I do receive the all-round benefits from a supplement alongside the respiratory symptom aggravation.
 

MinnBobber

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It is psychoactive. It is non-intoxicating.
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the point was that CBD is deemed by feds and most current literature to not be psychoactive, that's why feds allowed it to be legal.
Also, in almost all current articles on CBD, they state something like, THC is the psychoactive component while CBD is
not psychoactive.

It certainly is psychoactive, just don't tell this to the feds or it will be changed to an illegal status.
The feds say that legal CBD must be derived from non-psychoactive plants, with less than 0.3% THC.

It is just another one of those murky multi-definition semantic issues with the current state of cannabis.
But, let's allow the feds to be mistaken on this one, as it falls in our favor (rare indeed).
 

chlorophyll_man

AVB Inspector
Hi there , i too use a lot of cbd bud still use low thc bud too but mostly cbd .

Im just curious how do you measure such tiny amounts your talking 100ths of a gram right ? 0.02 would be 2 , 100ths of a gram right ?

Thats like taking a gram of bud grinding it up , deviding the gram into 100 seperate piles and then using two of those tiny piles how do you messure this tiny amout ? I would think it soo small how would you even vape it ?

A gram would last soo long . And you could basicly call your self a non user lol

Not trying to call you out on this or anything but is this really right am i understanding this like .02 equaling 2 100ths of a gram ? Or am i miss understanding the math ?

Hiya, yup 0.02g is my favourite load weight. It really is just crumbs, much less than most people leave behind on a surface after they've rolled a joint.
Weighed out with .000 scales and vapes best for me in a small chamber e.g. Dynavap Ti tip on smallest setting.
 

chris 71

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I use a dyna vape to with the smallest setting of the bowl i did weigh up a gram one time and count how many bowls i got i think it was about 20 .

So 1gram devided by 20 = 0.05 so ya i guess that is 5 , 100ths of a gram .

Its my favorite size bowl with my dyna vape actully .
didnt really think of it like that 5 , 100ths of a gram sounds soo small .
i definitely get effects of this size bowl even with what smokers would consider real week bud lol i huess im a really light weight even though i pretty much vape all day lol

No wonder the mighty vape seems so powerfull to me with the size of the bowl no way i can comfortably do a full bowl in that beastie
 

cannabis.pro

aka 420EDC
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the point was that CBD is deemed by feds and most current literature to not be psychoactive, that's why feds allowed it to be legal.
The feds have the patent on the plant and controlled the monopoly on growing it legally under federal law in the US until recently. You think they are ignorant on the pharmacology & pharmacokinetics?

Also, in almost all current articles on CBD, they state something like, THC is the psychoactive component while CBD is
not psychoactive.

It certainly is psychoactive,
There you go, you said it! Any article worth its salt isn't going to claim non-psychoactivity. Seeing an author mention CBD as being psychoactive should be cause for concern over the remainder of the content as being naive to the industry at best.

It is just another one of those murky multi-definition semantic issues with the current state of cannabis.
But, let's allow the feds to be mistaken on this one, as it falls in our favor (rare indeed).

The ignorance needs to go away. It's happening as the feds are sending out (more) cease & desist letters to those making false claims around the plant/CBD. Truth in labeling lawsuits are coming to light.
 
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hinglemccringleberry

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Hi there , i too use a lot of cbd bud still use low thc bud too but mostly cbd .

Im just curious how do you measure such tiny amounts your talking 100ths of a gram right ? 0.02 would be 2 , 100ths of a gram right ?

Thats like taking a gram of bud grinding it up , deviding the gram into 100 seperate piles and then using two of those tiny piles how do you messure this tiny amout ? I would think it soo small how would you even vape it ?

A gram would last soo long . And you could basicly call your self a non user lol

Not trying to call you out on this or anything but is this really right am i understanding this like .02 equaling 2 100ths of a gram ? Or am i miss understanding the math ?
Lol that's exactly right. Someone on this forum did an in depth analysis awhile back and basically, 0.01 of ground bud covers up Lincoln's head on a penny. (Spread out, not piled up). He had a photo showing different amounts of bud next to different coins.
I use my Vapcap digger-outer to scoop it into my Vapcap. 1 scoop is roughly 0.01. How convenient.
As for how you vape it, you use the most efficient vaporizer ever made, a Vapcap. 0.02 by itself actually gets me 1 full hit using the Vapcap. The Fury2/Edge/One with a glass mouthpiece can pull it off too.
You are right in that 0.02 doesn't make for a nice session, so I combine it with good CBD bud, the ratio can be whatever you want, and walaa, you've got a longer session with big clouds that gets you a head change without getting balls to the wall stoned.
Theoretically that means 50 days per gram. I think my grams last about a month on average because sometimes I do "indulge" in more than 0.02 of THC flower.
 
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CANtalk

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Microdosing is going well here :peace:. Last time I posted in this thread about a potent experience when bumping up my microdosing amount a touch for an indulgent experience. I enjoyed it so much I did it for a few weeks.

And after another weekly break I proceeded today to take a step down in amount again, going from the previously mentioned 1/4 in a session to 1/5. I can happily report it was really potent still :science:. More than enough... and a big experience. I know I'll be more than happy with 1/6 (or my old intake) again when I get to it (soon). Microdosing is working very well for me and the small step-downs maintain an impressive experience, very enjoyable and sustainable too. A highly recommended routine :peace::leaf:.
 
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C No Ego

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Microdosing is going well here :peace:. Last time I posted in this thread about a potent experience when bumping up my microdosing amount a touch for an indulgent experience. I enjoyed it so much I did it for a few weeks.

And after another weekly break I proceeded today to take a step down in amount again, going from the previously mentioned 1/4 in a session to 1/5. I can happily report it was really potent still :science:. More than enough... and a big experience. I know I'll be more than happy with 1/6 (or my old intake) again when I get to it (soon). Microdosing is working very well for me and the small step-downs maintain an impressive experience, very enjoyable and sustainable too. A highly recommended routine :peace::leaf:.

as people tend to ramp up their use maybe they will see your post and think hard on that type usage... like seeing CaNtalk big Eyed cat saying - you need to slow down ... micro that dose Bro
 

biohacker

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Agreed, I've been the exact opposite direction lately, livin it up... each to their own in their own time for them !

But if your tolerance is low or non existent, wouldn't micro dosing be the same as "living it up"?

I think i'm just confused on the ambiguity of the terminology of micro dosing. To me, micro dosing means getting your receptors just as saturated as macro dosing, just on a fraction of the amount, due to receptor sensitivity. I feel that many define it as just extremely minimal therapeutic effects.

I'm more interested in getting maximally medicated off of the least possible amount. But like you said, we all have different goals.
 

virtualpurple

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@biohacker I’m with you here. I kinda find myself struggling with trying to determine the best practical way for me to minimize my consumption while maximizing my effects, as well as to try and crack the formula for how often I can consume before experiencing diminishing returns and increased tolerance. I’ve got myself down to pretty scant amounts of cannabis in the past but it’s funny, I don’t really recall the process at which I arrived there. My @underdog vaporizer was definitely helped me get there though.

I often wonder whether it’s best to start with the amount of herb to be used for that day (lets say 0.1 gram just as an example), is one going to get better use out of that herb by vaping it all at the same time and temp stepping throughout the day wiling the same herb, or is better to split that 0.1 into divided doses and fully extract those.

really enjoy hearing how lean other people here are living, I want to start myself back on the path, I probably need to read back through the thread to observe successful strategies.
 

Krazy

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Worsening health and I am longer a micro dosser. I am still very low dose.

Back in the day I was effectively medicating with 1g/month.


mccringleberry;: Not the coins but,


Here's a picture showing a number of microdosing cannabis weights with various reference points/objects. Unfortunately there was no feedback on whether it's with moist or dry cannabis (which can significantly affect weights), but it's a good indicator for those who don't have/use scales :nod:.

RvQMg61.jpg


If that picture doesn't load/work here's the link. https://i.imgur.com/RvQMg61.jpg.
 
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biohacker

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I often wonder whether it’s best to start with the amount of herb to be used for that day (lets say 0.1 gram just as an example), is one going to get better use out of that herb by vaping it all at the same time and temp stepping throughout the day wiling the same herb, or is better to split that 0.1 into divided doses and fully extract those.

I guess it depends what effects you're trying to achieve. Anything after that first hit will pale in comparison IME, however it won't last as long. "Topping up" will protract that experience, with diminishing returns. Topping up also effects tolerance more IMO, and affects dopamine levels more unnaturally, not that I feel that cannabis is natural for the dopaminergic system to begin with.
 

Ramahs

Fucking Combustion (mostly) Since February 2017
I guess it depends what effects you're trying to achieve. Anything after that first hit will pale in comparison IME, however it won't last as long. "Topping up" will protract that experience, with diminishing returns. Topping up also effects tolerance more IMO, and affects dopamine levels more unnaturally, not that I feel that cannabis is natural for the dopaminergic system to begin with.

I don't get what you're saying. It sounds like you'd prefer a super high peak early in the day, then go down to crashing levels of nothing later in the day?

I just top off every few hours and I'm good. As far as tolerance, it seems to me that you eventually find an amount that just works from day to day. I have to build up a bit of tolerance to get to that point...but it finds itself eventually as long as I'm focusing on using the minimal amount of material to get where I want to be.
 
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