Firewood Vaporizer

flammy · Oct 7, 2019

caseball2051 said:
In a perfect world I'd love to have 3 temps....360-370....390-400....440-450. This is not possible, correct?

This is absolutely possible. Each level can be set to any temp setting within the provided ranges. For example, if you wanted to assign the highest temp setting of 440-450F to the first level (aka 2 clicks), you would do the following:

1) Click twice to set the FW6 to that particular level
2) Click 7 times to enter into the mode that will allow you to make temp assignments to the level set
3) Click 4 times to select the top temp range of 400-450F (400-410, 410-420, 430-440, 440-450)
4) Click 4 times to select 440-450F

M0J0 · Oct 7, 2019

flammy said:
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TL;DR: FW6 is an improved FW5 in almost every way. It is one the very best on-the-go options available right now.

Overall, the FW6 is an extremely capable portable device. Thiis vape has quite a few distinctive features. It’s pocketable, reasonably powerful, efficient, flavorful, uses hot swappable batteries, regulated temp, battery/temp meter and onboard storage chamber. On top of this, it’s handmade from beautiful wood. It's affordable to boot and ~10% less than the FW5.

I agree 100% with @flammy

I just returned a CFX because it died in the 1st week! I had used it only 3 times and it didn't power up again... WTF?

The FW6 is beautiful, very very well thought out, nice clean build... Suoer simple and direct vapor path... And I love wood vapes!

The swappable battery is a deal breaker for me, right when the CFX died, which has been traced to battery failure - and did I mention I hate plastic vapes?

The only negative I gibe it is that it doesn't come with a battery. I didn't realize this until I received it. A vape at this price point should include the battery, in my opinion...

It worked great and it delivers Very Good taste, is easy to use, feels great in the hand and is very pocketable.

I didn't mes with the temp programming. That's too much work for me - especially when it worked fine out of the box.

I filled aboutb1/2 a bowl and tamped it down as suggested here and got nice brown ABV. The draw resistance was fine. The CFX was very constricted..

I also agree that it's a great OTG option.

Overall I'm very impressed with this vape. I recommend it to anyone.

hippogriff · Oct 7, 2019

M0J0 said:
The only negative I gibe it is that it doesn't come with a battery. I didn't realize this until I received it. A vape at this price point should include the battery, in my opinion...

I dunno, one of the reasons I love wooden vapes is b/c we get a LOT for our money. Vapes like Firewood’s or Nomads or Splinters would cost a lot more if they used larger manufacturing methods, mainly because those come w bloated corporate structure and expense. Firewood is right up there w the much more expensive Firefly, even tho Firewood’s materials costs are likely higher. Plus we get the thought-out design of one craftsman, and w/o my least favorite Corp design features like apps and lights and custom batteries and charging accessories.

Byetor · Oct 8, 2019

So just got my FW6.. And it's fantastic... Best one yet! Was wondering if anyone noticed the lock switch (when pushed all the way into the locked position) doesn't really prevent the unit from being activated... It makes it so you need to apply a bit more pressure to activate it.. but really not too much more.. Anyone else?

NOLOGO · Oct 8, 2019

Byetor said:
So just got my FW6.. And it's fantastic... Best one yet! Was wondering if anyone noticed the lock switch (when pushed all the way into the locked position) doesn't really prevent the unit from being activated... It makes it so you need to apply a bit more pressure to activate it.. but really not too much more.. Anyone else?

hmm...i did just read on the website that the unit will shut off when no breath accompanies the squeeze... so that shouldn’t matter much in theory

i paraphrased, but you get the idea :lol:

Byetor · Oct 8, 2019

NOLOGO said:
hmm...i did just read on the website that the unit will shut off when no breath accompanies the squeeze... so that shouldn’t matter much in theory

i paraphrased, but you get the idea

Yeah. I noticed that.... But the switch is a physical movement that pushes a point of wood against the top part preventing the two halves coming together and activating.. On mine the unit still activates just takes slightly more squeezing strength. I guess it's just how it was designed... Never meant to really hard lock the unit and that's fine by me.. Just checking to see if others have the same experience.. Or is mine slightly defective..... Idk

LabPong · Oct 8, 2019

elykpeace said:
I told my budtender yesterday about the fw6! He told me he had the arizer eq and that cured his VAS..Brother it's time to catch up on the newest latest and greatest!

But you are selling your FW6 the same day you got it?

Did it not perform well for you?

elykpeace · Oct 8, 2019

LabPong said:
But you are selling your FW6 the same day you got it?

Did it not perform well for you?

Got the timber elite, Nova and fw6 all in the same week... Herbalizer has been for sale but no bites and I can't keep so many vapes

Its a sweet vape but I'm in love with the @Bravesst timber elite and I don't get off the homestead much so discretion is not important.II'd say it preforms just like the 5 did. The form factor has changed a lot and the squeeze button is cool.

The DNA chip with the timber elite is so awesome.

Vas

TastyCakeWasTasty · Oct 8, 2019

Byetor said:
Yeah. I noticed that.... But the switch is a physical movement that pushes a point of wood against the top part preventing the two halves coming together and activating.. On mine the unit still activates just takes slightly more squeezing strength. I guess it's just how it was designed... Never meant to really hard lock the unit and that's fine by me.. Just checking to see if others have the same experience.. Or is mine slightly defective..... Idk

Mine arrived today and behaves the same. The pressure needed to activate the button while ‘locked’ is safe enough for pocket carry, but maybe not for transporting in a backpack full of books (you’d have to be a monster to do that anyway).

Mine is a two tone model like someone else posted here and it’s absolutely gorgeous. Too gorgeous in fact as I feel I should be putting on gloves before touching it.

I’ve set temps to roughly 157c, 180c & 220c and I’m seeing decent vapour at each level. Vapour production is comparable to my ArGo, maybe with a bit more kick (and much faster)..though not quite a cloud pusher like my Splinter.

Only gripe so far is the clicky mechanism seems to get stuck often (which isn’t great as all the input rely on clicks).

I’d recommend getting a good set of high draw batteries for this. I’m using new Samsung 20S’ (30A/2000mah) and it’s looking good so far.

NOLOGO · Oct 8, 2019

TastyCakeWasTasty said:
Mine arrived today and behaves the same. The pressure needed to activate the button while ‘locked’ is safe enough for pocket carry, but maybe not for transporting in a backpack full of books (you’d have to be a monster to do that anyway).

Mine is a two tone model like someone else posted here and it’s absolutely gorgeous. Too gorgeous in fact as I feel I should be putting on gloves before touching it.

I’ve set temps to roughly 157c, 180c & 220c and I’m seeing decent vapour at each level. Vapour production is comparable to my ArGo, maybe with a bit more kick (and much faster)..though not quite a cloud pusher like my Splinter.

Only gripe so far is the clicky mechanism seems to get stuck often (which isn’t great as all the input rely on clicks).

I’d recommend getting a good set of high draw batteries for this. I’m using new Samsung 20S’ (30A/2000mah) and it’s looking good so far.

I think y'all may be seeing (making) a problem where there is none. The following is from the description of the fw6 on the firewood website:

"Proprietary Draw Sense Technology - dynamically adjusts the heat level based on draw speed and automatically turns off the heater if the button is accidentally depressed while not in use"

I take that to mean the heater will not heat unless there is a draw while the unit is squeezed. But I could be wrong. Could someone with a unit please test this for us?
tia

EDITED for clarity, and to strikethrough "making" but I don't know how to strikethrough lol. I didn't mean to be accusatory like the word "making" appears to be

M0J0 · Oct 8, 2019

hippogriff said:
I dunno, one of the reasons I love wooden vapes is b/c we get a LOT for our money. Vapes like Firewood’s or Nomads or Splinters would cost a lot more if they used larger manufacturing methods, mainly because those come w bloated corporate structure and expense. Firewood is right up there w the much more expensive Firefly, even tho Firewood’s materials costs are likely higher. Plus we get the thought-out design of one craftsman, and w/o my least favorite Corp design features like apps and lights and custom batteries and charging accessories.

I see what you're saying but the battery costs about $3 to $4 depending on the brand... It's not about cost for me. It's about the buyer's experience of receiving a full working unit, so to speak.

I still love the FW6

hippogriff · Oct 8, 2019

M0J0 said:
I see what you're saying but the battery costs about $3 to $4 depending on the brand... It's not about cost for me. It's about the buyer's experience of receiving a full working unit, so to speak.

I still love the FW6

I hear ya, I'll be ordering a fresh pair of HG2s when my turn comes up, so some pre-sourced, authentic batteries as an add-on option would save me some shipping charges and 5 minutes ordering from IMR. I can also see how that could be a distracting hassle for Marc w extra sku's and regulations to navigate - I f'in love that we get a dedicated engineer/designer for our "hobby" who pays attention to costs and specializes in on-the-go functionality.

Anyone else super excited to have a totally all-in-one solution? FW5 was huge for me cause I could load a couple bowls at home and throw one thing in my pocket and be good. But I usually found myself w a separate container for sharing and a stir tool, and I had to think about how the exposed glass stem sat in my pocket when I sat down. FW6 improves all that, thinking I'll upgrade my EDC flashlight to 18650 w onboard charging and I'll be ready for everything :rockon:

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KeroZen · Oct 8, 2019

Cells also limit international shipping options as many air carriers just plainly refuse to take them on board due to the high fire risks.

firewood · Oct 9, 2019

Byetor said:
So just got my FW6.. And it's fantastic... Best one yet! Was wondering if anyone noticed the lock switch (when pushed all the way into the locked position) doesn't really prevent the unit from being activated... It makes it so you need to apply a bit more pressure to activate it.. but really not too much more.. Anyone else?

This is normal. Wood flexes and the lock is only on one side so yeah you can activate the button while it is locked if you squeeze hard enough. As others mentioned though, the heater will go off after a few seconds if you aren't drawing. The idea with the lock is that you can put it in your pocket and it won't keep getting activated.

Somebody had asked about whether there were customer issues... There were a couple that I should mention.
The first issue is that the draw sensor on some units may be under sensitive. The symptom is that the device will turn off in the middle of your draw. If you have this issue, I have a firmware fix, so let me know.

The other issue was that the oring that seals the glass tube to the bowl can get dislodged. The tube will feel like it is making a seal when you push it in but it won't be. The symptom will be weak vapor despite hot air. You can always check the seal by covering the bowl with your finger and drawing. You might not get a perfect seal but you should be able to hold some suction for at least a few seconds. If you can't get a good seal then try removing the bowl, re-setting the oring, then re-assembling. If you still can't get a seal let me know.

Fat Freddy · Oct 9, 2019

firewood said:
The symptom is that the device will turn off in the middle of your draw. If you have this issue, I have a firmware fix, so let me know.

Is that also true of some units that haven't been shipped yet? And how is the firmware fix executed? Does it require sending the unit back to you?

firewood said:
The other issue was that the oring that seals the glass tube to the bowl can get dislodged.

Is this issue something that can recur even after correcting it, or might the problem become worse given we're talking here about a rubber oring?

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flammy · Oct 9, 2019

M0J0 said:
I see what you're saying but the battery costs about $3 to $4 depending on the brand... It's not about cost for me. It's about the buyer's experience of receiving a full working unit, so to speak.

I still love the FW6

You can purchase an 18650 battery (HG2) when purchasing a Firewood 6. It's a link found towards the bottom of the FW6 product page so it's easy to miss:

https://firewoodvapes.com/products/fw4battery

That said, having the option to purchase the FW6 a la carte means that I don't have to pay for a battery if I don't need one. I have a small army of 18650s so I definitely preferred this option.

Fat Freddy said:
Is that also true of some units that haven't been shipped yet? And how is the firmware fix executed? Does it require sending the unit back to you?

Is this issue something that can recur even after correcting it, or might the problem become worse given we're talking here about a rubber oring?

My FW6 encountered the o-ring issue and the issue did repeat itself even after correcting it. To mitigate this issue, I applied a thin layer of bees wax based lip balm on the portion of the stem that would come into contact with the o-ring. This does not need to be overdone and the application covered about 3/4" of the stem.

I suggest performing this step even if you don't have this issue as it does help ease the action of moving the stem.

Fat Freddy · Oct 9, 2019

flammy said:
My FW6 encountered the o-ring issue and the issue did repeat itself even after correcting it. To mitigate this issue, I applied a thin layer of bees wax based lip balm on the portion of the stem that would come into contact with the o-ring. This does not need to be overdone and the application covered about 3/4" of the stem.

I suggest performing this step even if you don't have this issue as it does help ease the action of moving the stem.

Kinda difficult to envision absent a FW6 unit in hand.

Know anything about the Firmware fix, i.e., how is it executed?

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firewood · Oct 9, 2019

Fat Freddy said:
Is that also true of some units that haven't been shipped yet? And how is the firmware fix executed? Does it require sending the unit back to you?

Is this issue something that can recur even after correcting it, or might the problem become worse given we're talking here about a rubber oring?

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For firmware updates. the unit needs to be mailed back. All units shipped this week and after have the new firmware.

For the oring issue. I don't think it should get worse. Once it is correctly in place, the only way it can occur again is if the glass tube is pulled out too far and even then it shouldn't happen that often. If it seems to be happening a lot and the beeswax trick doesn't work, please let me know, there could be something else wrong.

flammy · Oct 9, 2019

Fat Freddy said:
Kinda difficult to envision absent a FW6 unit in hand.

Know anything about the Firmware fix, i.e., how is it executed?

Once you have one in hand, it should become readily apparent. That said, just follow the disassembly instructions that are provided and the parts that I have referenced will become crystal clear. If not, DM me and I'm happy to walk anyone through this. If the ceramic bowl does not come out easily, there is a good chance the o-ring has become dislodged.

My FW6 continues to work well for me (other than stem issue which is now fixed) and I have not experienced the issue that would necessitate a firmware update. This said, if it required one in the future, I'm rather confident that Marc would be willing to assist.

I've been busier lately but if there are questions that a current owner can answer, I'll try my best.

Sativapo · Oct 10, 2019

For those who have both the 5 and 6 now : the 6 was supposed to be more efficient because the chamber has better insulation, is this confirmed ? Also I guess that because of its shape with reasonnable stirring you must have less ( or not at all) little green "dust" bits stuck on the sides of the screen in the end ?

Easywider · Oct 10, 2019

I’d love to know about extraction speed. I loved my FW4, I think to this day it’s my favorite form factor out of any vape I’ve owned. Work of art. But it was more of a session vape and took too long for a full extraction for my needs. Can the FW6 extract a bowl in 6 hits or less ?

flammy · Oct 10, 2019

Daprezz said:
For those who have both the 5 and 6 now : the 6 was supposed to be more efficient because the chamber has better insulation, is this confirmed ? Also I guess that because of its shape with reasonnable stirring you must have less ( or not at all) little green "dust" bits stuck on the sides of the screen in the end ?

The extraction on the FW6 is much more even than my FW5. When pressing the two sides together to engage the heater, it does create a seal. I believe that there is more radiant heat produced as a result and that is leading to the more even extraction. I don't need to stir on the FW6 but with ALL convection devices especially portables, a stir can be helpful. I stir less than half of the times when using the FW6. I don't have any green remnants left in the chamber as a result of the even extraction. The changes to the bowls dimensions could play a part here as well. The larger bowl and onboard stir tool certainly makes stirring much easier if you choose to do so.

Easywider said:
I’d love to know about extraction speed. I loved my FW4, I think to this day it’s my favorite form factor out of any vape I’ve owned. Work of art. But it was more of a session vape and took too long for a full extraction for my needs. Can the FW6 extract a bowl in 6 hits or less ?

I'm a big fan of the simpler rectangular form factor and fully retractable stem on the FW6. I feel like the FW6 can fully extract within 6-7 hits. That said, you have to keep in mind that the FW6 has limitations due to its more pocketable form factor. For one, the ID of the stem is significantly smaller than most of other vapes and due to that, a longer draw duration yields better results in my experience. As with the FW5, the draw speed on the FW6 is limited. Your draw speed needs to be within a certain range otherwise the draw detection will shut off the heater. That said, the draw detection is much more forgiving on the FW6 than it is on the FW5. I can trigger the overdraw on FW5 at least once during a session with it. I've triggered the overdraw on the FW6 maybe a handful of times over the 50+ bowls I've run through it. For the size of this device, it puts out enough for me to justify using it at home despite my other options. The onboard storage is just so convenient. Always having a little material in there makes reaching for this an issue choice. I only have to grab one thing. No stems, no stash box, no grinder. Just the FW6. It's a solid OTG option.

Unfortunately, I've never used the FW4 so I can't answer your question directly.

TastyCakeWasTasty · Oct 11, 2019

flammy said:
The extraction on the FW6 is much more even than my FW5. When pressing the two sides together to engage the heater, it does create a seal. I believe that there is more radiant heat produced as a result and that is leading to the more even extraction. I don't need to stir on the FW6 but with ALL convection devices especially portables, a stir can be helpful. I stir less than half of the times when using the FW6. I don't have any green remnants left in the chamber as a result of the even extraction. The changes to the bowls dimensions could play a part here as well. The larger bowl and onboard stir tool certainly makes stirring much easier if you choose to do so.

I'm a big fan of the simpler rectangular form factor and fully retractable stem on the FW6. I feel like the FW6 can fully extract within 6-7 hits. That said, you have to keep in mind that the FW6 has limitations due to its more pocketable form factor. For one, the ID of the stem is significantly smaller than most of other vapes and due to that, a longer draw duration yields better results in my experience. As with the FW5, the draw speed on the FW6 is limited. Your draw speed needs to be within a certain range otherwise the draw detection will shut off the heater. That said, the draw detection is much more forgiving on the FW6 than it is on the FW5. I can trigger the overdraw on FW5 at least once during a session with it. I've triggered the overdraw on the FW6 maybe a handful of times over the 50+ bowls I've run through it. For the size of this device, it puts out enough for me to justify using it at home despite my other options. The onboard storage is just so convenient. Always having a little material in there makes reaching for this an issue choice. I only have to grab one thing. No stems, no stash box, no grinder. Just the FW6. It's a solid OTG option.

Unfortunately, I've never used the FW4 so I can't answer your question directly.

Excellent summary. I wanted to edit my old post to remove the comment about it being similar to my ArGo in terms of vapour production...it’s leagues better IMO. The heater is surprisingly powerful (and fast) for its size. A fully packed and tamped bowl produces delicious thick hits. Those hits don’t feel as thick or harsh as my Omni, but I think that’s due to the open airflow on the FW6 producing a more diffuse cloud. I feel just as medicated though.

I also wanted to mention one of my favourite features: being able to easily top-up your partially spent bowl with some fresh material from the dugout. I can really maintain enjoyable flavour throughout and skip the not so nice flavour you usually get towards the end of a session.

Magistra · Oct 11, 2019

flammy said:
As with the FW5, the draw speed on the FW6 is limited. Your draw speed needs to be within a certain range otherwise the draw detection will shut off the heater. That said, the draw detection is much more forgiving on the FW6 than it is on the FW5. I can trigger the overdraw on FW5 at least once during a session with it. I've triggered the overdraw on the FW6 maybe a handful of times over the 50+ bowls I've run through it.

thanks for all that. I’m still perfecting my technique with convection and it feels natural to me to take a puff and inhale it, like a cigarette. I’m really struggling (with the Mi2, until I get my FW 6) to do a long, slow pull.

Is the shut off to stop pulling too hard that you create combustion? I have had a couple of combustion’s in my Milaana and feel like I’m struggling to extract fully and evenly.

Fat Freddy · Oct 11, 2019

Does anyone know what time today that Troy is planning on posting his review of the Firewood 6 on YouTube?

@ohmygodimsohigh ???

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