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bossman

Gentleman Of Leisure
But indeed, what do I take a draw on to get the full medicated benefit I need with minimal fuss and preparation. I'm thinking a VapCap with IH is the simplest way to get started getting powerful draws.
Yes and no. A VapCap and an induction heater is indeed a straightforward solution.

The first wrinkle is you have you be good at mouth pulling because the draw resistance of even the more open Omni is too restrictive to get big hits otherwise. You may already be aware of this.

The second wrinkle is you're gonna be sidestepping your options for good flavor in exchange for excellent efficiency and a great ritual.

An induction heater is a great investment though. I have a Pipes Jarhead and a Fluxer Deluxe and both are easy elegant options to enjoy using a VapCap without having to fuck with butane.

If I had to answer a general question for "the simplest way to get powerful draws" I'd be obliged to recommend the Sticky Brick. It's got a great bong-like ritual and is my hardest hitting, most rapid extraction portable. Lovely flavor too.

If I warmed my Z up, packed a fresh load and handed it to you all dialed in, I suspect you'd have a different experience. After all it does involve mucking around with a box mod.
Fuck yeah mon, there's a reason I have four Zs.
 
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FabulatorPoeta

Where has the time gone?
.... A general insight into microdosing, with one of the gray area homologues.

https://thethirdwave.co/microdosing/1p-lsd/

If you ever want any direction or info or assistance with this any time, like sources etc, feel free to pm me.

Thank you so much @Alexis for this excellent and most interresting reference. It also has a full section about Cannabis https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/cannabis/, one of the best synthesis I have read on the subject. Have you posted this information in the Microdosing Thread ? It should really be available there also imho. Thanks again.
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
Thanks for the input @bossman . I suspect a VapCap is quite similar to the old one-hit stem hidden in the stash box gig. The IH hardware is already on order. $6 from the hobby account. I really like that 'belt solution' someone rocked a few days ago. That just takes a reorienting of the coil. I also want to give it some smarts like 'refresh' and 'proximity sensing'.

Anyway, yes, this is where my energy goes when it comes to budget vape experiences... "Now what can I do with that?" And in that sense, VapCap is a needed 'experience' for base-lining. It doesn't help that I don't have vape-friends locally.
 

Mr. Me2

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Thanks for the input @bossman . I suspect a VapCap is quite similar to the old one-hit stem hidden in the stash box gig. The IH hardware is already on order. $6 from the hobby account. I really like that 'belt solution' someone rocked a few days ago. That just takes a reorienting of the coil. I also want to give it some smarts like 'refresh' and 'proximity sensing'.

Anyway, yes, this is where my energy goes when it comes to budget vape experiences... "Now what can I do with that?" And in that sense, VapCap is a needed 'experience' for base-lining. It doesn't help that I don't have vape-friends locally.
Do you have a Dynavap yet?
 
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Alexis

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Thanks for the input @bossman . I suspect a VapCap is quite similar to the old one-hit stem hidden in the stash box gig. The IH hardware is already on order. $6 from the hobby account. I really like that 'belt solution' someone rocked a few days ago. That just takes a reorienting of the coil. I also want to give it some smarts like 'refresh' and 'proximity sensing'.

Anyway, yes, this is where my energy goes when it comes to budget vape experiences... "Now what can I do with that?" And in that sense, VapCap is a needed 'experience' for base-lining. It doesn't help that I don't have vape-friends locally.
Yes the vapcap is very worth owning. I still use my Omnivap most days. Just a moment ago actually, 2 very big hits of our Sativa Auto Fantasmo.

You can get very big hits with the vapcap. Its all about loading and heating, inhaling is just a matter of Keeping up at the the required pace which should not be too difficult for most people with the vapcap. I see it like a tug of war myself once I take up the slack I don't want to let it go until I'm over the line whereas other vapes which are much more free-flowing you can be more variable with the intensity and speed of your inhale during the inhale.

But a part of that is related to the limited heat and time during a vapcap inhalation. I am very methodical with how I hit the vapcap, in that I aim to begin inhaling instantly after the click.

Which means fiddling around with the Omnivap wooden Vong to drop it into the bubbler and inhale quick, if I heat it right for a decent hit some vapour will escape from under the cap and there will be a gorgeous aroma of cooked weed which lets you know how nice your herb is.

I then keep up inhaling at the maximum pace the vapcap airflow can handle, until cool down click or I've had enough.
Only one long hit per cycle for me.

One thing to be aware of Tommy, and something I I think I observed a few years ago but let slip from my thinking- different caps will vary in performance. I discovered recently this variation can be substantial leading to a totally different vape signature and level of extraction.

I misplaced my cap while using the Woodscents, so I borrowed one off a brand new, unused vapcap M in storage.

This cap hits way harder. It clicks differently, pronounced double click each time, like a pop, vs the other cap, the 2 clicks come together with the second click seeming really faint.

With the older cap I have to be much more deliberately aggressive with the torch and I never feel close to combustion. Using that cap every inhalation I am just about finished inhaling comfortably and vapor has dropped off before I am running out of of room and the cool down click comes almost before I have pulled my lips away from the bubbler, every time so predictably.

I also get lots of cycles like this, 5 or 6 good hits per full bowl fine grind.

But it is virtually impossible to extract everything in three hits for example using that older cap.
With the new, or rather, "other" one, the remarkable thing is is I can be much more gentle with my torching and the cool down click takes an extra two to three times as long to come.

I am pretty much always long finished my inhalation and usually fully exhaled after a nice hold before I hear the cooldown click with the newer cap.

It's interesting because whatever intensity and density vapor production starts off at with each hit according to the torching, that same level of density is maintained for a much longer time, so it's like whatever temperature the extraction is taking place at there is a much longer window around that temperature, for low and high heat hits.

I have to be more careful with this cap because it is possible to combust and also it's very easy to take unnecessarily large hits, I try to draw a line and seek some reasonable flavour and it is still possible with the Vapcap to to hit very heavily without it tasting like garbage.

I have an original induction heater myself which I never got on with because I found the extraction to be uneven Charring the top and leaving the bottom still green.

It was essential to go past the click by two or three seconds with only 1/2 second's time fine line to avoid combustion but get the large hits I am looking for.

But it has occurred to me that I may get completely different performance from my induction heater with this newer cap.
So many people love their induction heaters and it's really puzzled me because I exclusively use my torch and I never dream of using the induction heater.

I try it from time to time but I barely finish one bowl before I don't like the taste and extraction and general performance and pick up the torch immediately.

Anyway, @TommyDee I'm sorry if this is all terribly inappropriate, Im pretty high and hazy. Mum gone on holiday this a.m. I'm super lean and merry so I thought I would share this little vapcap insight and experienc.

By the way the air flow with the Omnivap is actually fairly open when when adjusted to the maximum I don't often use it like that because actually you have to to keep going quite fast for a long time to keep up and it doesn't even need to be that open flowing.

I absolutely cannot get on using the vapcaps with airport fully sealed off, or carbless. Kills me so tight. But lots of serious vapers prefer exactly that. I like my more open flowing rigs, with a choice of how you go about it with decent results at all levels of inhalation.

But the Omnivap is acceptable to me. I vary the airflow level, about 25% reduced normally.
So my point Tommy- it may be worth trying some different caps at some point to see if you get a different vape signature, performance and extraction.

My newer cap extracts much faster, darkens load quicker, I am favoring it currently for those guaranteed bigger hits. Its over 60 seconds between clicks with a good hit, vs 15 to 20 seconds previous cap. Its impossible to replicate each other's unique signature hits.

Okay soz guys, best get back for hits 3 and 4. 1 & 2 have calmed off now, it's racy Sativa, on top of Elev8r, edibles, a bit too much Kratom lol, and no real sleep.
 
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TommyDee

Vaporitor
Do you have a Dynavap yet?

Oh no... this is a very slow process for me. Hobbies tend to mimic the slow boat for getting supplies from overseas. My daily needs are met perfectly for the time being with the LB. That alone has staved off the desire or need to combust. And there is no 'panic buying' for need of a better alternatives either. Just putting away the combustion willingly is a huge step already for this old codger in such a short time.

@Alexis - Thanks for the nuances on the DynaVap line. I am learning a lot with the LB. It has a good size trench to learn the nuances as the bake evolves; I see the vapor on the window to know if it is actually 'done'; I see how power levels and draw speeds work together... etc... et'nasium. So the overarching 'technology' is no big deal to me. This is my career and hobbies tied into a pretty bow. Experience; that is what I am lacking now. But again, that's me. These threads open up avenues for my need to explore.
 
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Alexis

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Thank you so much @Alexis for this excellent and most interresting reference. It also has a full section about Cannabis https://thethirdwave.co/psychedelics/cannabis/, one of the best synthesis I have read on the subject. Have you posted this information in the Microdosing Thread ? It should really be available there also imho. Thanks again.
Hello, no worries thank you for your openess. My only hope is that it may help someone. People deserve to know about these potential avenues and we sure can't rely on the media.

No I havent posted there, but please feel free if you should wish. I simply go by natural impulse and just happened to divulge here, and in the Cannabreak thread too IIRC.

If just one person gains something useful even if only a little insight, that alone makes it worth sharing.
 
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CANtalk

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To the OP's first post, while I'm not interested in acquiring a bunch of vapes (all I need/want are two), I have no problem investing in quality vapes when I buy :). Like most things in life, you get what you pay for. It helps that I do a lot of reading and research... and I take advantage of sales ;). I also like a related broad product support community to refine the ownership experience :leaf:. The money can add up some, but it isn't much in the grand scheme of things and I can stagger related equipment purchases (such as hydratubes) over time and with the added bonus both premium local options as well as value oriented international options. I do buy to fill a need or gap and am not really interested in overlapping items or just getting more stuff.

I have enjoyed building up the ecosystem around my vaping :luv:. I moved to boveda stored mason jar cannabis, I started trying new strains similar to other strains I enjoyed, I have dab and flower capability, a dry mouthpiece, another wet/dry mouthpiece, a reasonable grinder, a flower loading tool, lab scoops, storage containers, an ultrasonic cleaner, PBW for cleaning instead of ISO, picks, tools, cleaning brushes and a heat resistant silicon mat. All of these things have a purpose and help me further have great cannabis and vaping experiences
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. Many of these things have been learned by being part of FC; it's great to see people contribute to the community :nod:.

I'm not vested in vape brands, having a bunch of stuff or anything like that, but I am vested in a great cannabis experience :tup:. Cheers :peace: :leaf:.
 
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CANtalk

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Cool @TommyDee :tup:. There are a lot of great hobbies out there :nod:. And there's no need to rush with a new interest... fwiw I vaped for two years before I purchased my first vape, and I owned my first vape for over two years before I purchased my second vape. Enjoy vaping; the community has been great 2me :tup:.
 
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FabulatorPoeta

Where has the time gone?
Hello, no worries thank you for your openess. My only hope is that it may help someone. People deserve to know about these potential avenues and we sure can't rely on the media.

No I havent posted there, but please feel free if you should wish. I simply go by natural impulse and just happened to divulge here, and in the Cannabreak thread too IIRC.

If just one person gains something useful even if only a little insight, that alone makes it worth sharing.

I did just that! Thanks again. Safe and sound psychonautics exploration to all. :peace:
 
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