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In a First for Australia, the Capital Legalizes Recreational Marijuana
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By Isabella Kwai
Sept. 25, 2019, 5:35 a.m. ET
SYDNEY, Australia — Australia’s capital on Wednesday became the first jurisdiction in the country to legalize the recreational possession and cultivation of marijuana, a move that runs counter to federal laws that can carry prison terms for personal use of the drug.

Passage of the measure, which came after months of debate over policy, legal and health issues, echoed efforts in the United States, where more than 10 states have legalized recreational use of marijuana even as it remains illegal under federal law.

The new law in the Australian Capital Territory, which encompasses the capital city of Canberra, would allow residents over age 18 to possess up to 50 grams of dried marijuana and grow two plants per person or four per household at a time. Supplying the drug to other people will remain illegal.

“The passage of this legislation is an Australian first,” Michael Pettersson, a Labor Party lawmaker who was a driving force behind the bill, said in a statement. “It will work to reduce the harm of drugs in our community by reducing the stigma of drug use and encouraging people to seek help without fear of arrest.”


Marijuana is the most commonly used illicit recreational drug in Australia. In a 2016 government survey, about a third of Australians over age 14 said they had used it, with about 10 percent saying they had used it in the last 12 months.

Australia approved the use of marijuana for medical purposes in 2016, but the country has not yet begun moving in the direction of the small number of other countries, like Canada, that have legalized recreational use on a national level.

Before the Australian Capital Territory passed its legalization measure, possession of small amounts of marijuana had been decriminalized there and in a few other jurisdictions, giving police officers the discretion to issue fines instead of making arrests.

In other jurisdictions, possession is still a criminal offense, though warnings are usually given to first-time offenders.

Under federal law, recreational possession carries a potential penalty of up to two years in prison. While the Australian Capital Territory legislation would provide a legal defense under local law for adults who possess marijuana, it does not remove the risk of arrest under federal law, said Gordon Ramsay, the territory’s attorney general.

The final legislation, which is likely to come into effect at the end of January, included a number of amendments. They restrict cultivation of plants to private property, make it an offense to smoke near minors, require proper storage away from children, and add a separate weight limit of 150 grams, or about five ounces, for freshly cultivated marijuana.

The federal government has moved to overturn major legislative changes by states or territories in the past, though it is unclear whether it will do so in this case. In 2013, it successfully argued in court to reverse legislation in the capital territory that allowed same-sex couples to marry. The federal government then legalized same-sex marriage in 2017.

Opponents of the capital’s cannabis legislation said that while the amendments would limit some of the harm, it would lead to higher consumption of marijuana, which some researchers have linked to an increased risk of psychosis, and more cases of people driving under the influence.

The legislation could lead to a “whole bunch of perverse outcomes,” Jeremy Hanson, the attorney general for the conservative-leaning Liberal Party, said during debate on the measure. “The current laws as they work are effective.”

The capital branch of the Australian Medical Association said that use of marijuana could lead to chronic health problems, but that the risk was low and that those who used the drug occasionally were unlikely to be affected, according to a government inquiry into the issue.

“It doesn’t appear to be the sort of legislation or policy change that results in the sky falling down,” said Dr. David Caldicott, an emergency medicine consultant who supported the bill.

The nation’s capital has been at the forefront of drug reform policy in the past, including testing pills at festivals, Dr. Caldicott added. “Rather than causing a shift in cannabis consumption in Australia,” he said, “it might create a broader conversational environment” around the policies governing it.

The Australian Capital Territory police said in a statement that they would work with the local government and other agencies to carry out the new legislation, including working out how it intersects with federal law.
 

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Putin is a War Criminal
House passes cannabis-banking bill, but getting Senate’s OK still looks tricky

Published: Sept 25, 2019 5:53 p.m. ET




House had been expected to back the SAFE Banking Act in a vote on Wednesday


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A woman shops at a marijuana dispensary in Oregon.


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The Democratic-controlled House of Representatives late Wednesday voted to pass a bill protecting banks that work with the marijuana industry, but some analysts are warning that the measure isn’t likely to become law in 2019 as it faces a tough road in the Republican-controlled Senate.

The chances of enactment this year for the bill — known as the Secure And Fair Enforcement (SAFE) Banking Act — have risen to 1 in 3, up from 1 in 5, reckons Ian Katz, an analyst at Capital Alpha Partners. Those still aren’t great odds, however. “We remain skeptical for now,” Katz said in a note before the House vote, though he added that the chances could get better “if we see meaningful signals from the Senate in the next few weeks.”

The bill aims to give clarification to banks and credit unions that serve cannabis companies with, for instance, business accounts for bill paying. Currently, financial institutions face legal problems because marijuana remains illegal on the federal level, even as more states legalize it. Lobbyists have emphasized that many cannabis businesses end up “unbanked” and operating largely in cash, and that makes them targets for robberies and other crimes.

Influential Republican Sen. Mike Crapo gave some hope to the SAFE Banking Act’s supporters earlier this month, as the Senate Banking Committee chairman told Politico that he wanted to hold a committee vote before the year’s end on a cannabis banking bill. There are no additional details on the potential timing for such a vote, said a spokeswoman for the Idaho lawmaker on Monday. Crapo had sounded noncommittal on the issue at a July hearing.

The SAFE Banking Act “has been sweetened for Republicans,” Katz said. One provision would prevent the return of Operation Choke Point, an Obama-era program that Crapo mentioned at the July hearing and that involved investigating banks for doing business with payday lenders and firearms dealers. Another new provision aims to protect financial firms that serve the hemp industry, which is a force in Kentucky, the home state of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell.

But McConnell continues to look like he could serve as a big roadblock to the bill. He described marijuana last year as hemp’s “illicit cousin which I choose not to embrace.”

“There’s a line of thinking that McConnell could go along with a pot banking bill to help Republicans in the 2020 elections,” Katz said. “The tough re-election prospects of Republican Sen. Cory Gardner [a co-sponsor of the bill] of marijuana-friendly Colorado are often cited. But the benefit to Republicans, especially in the West and South, of supporting a bill that’s at least superficially pro-marijuana, is debatable.”

At the other end of the political spectrum, the bill had faced opposition ahead of Wednesday’s House vote from several progressive groups, such as the Center for American Progress, the American Civil Liberties Union and others. In a letter to top House Democrats, the groups criticized the efforts to advance a bill that just addresses banking issues, but does not help “communities who have felt the brunt of prohibition,” yet have been “shut out” of the growing industry. Their concerns didn’t end up stopping the House from passing the measure.

Even with the SAFE Banking Act set to get the House’s OK, Height Capital Markets analysts said in a note before that chamber’s vote that they “maintain our less than 25% odds that cannabis legislation is enacted during the 116th Congress.” Other analysts are more upbeat on the bill’s prospects. This week’s vote “will pressure the Senate to pass similar legislation, and the SAFE Act should become law before the 2020 election,” said Jaret Seiberg, an analyst at Cowen Washington Research Group, in a note.

Wednesday’s vote happened under a suspension of House rules that limited debate and meant that two-thirds of the lawmakers present and voting needed to back the measure. The vote tally was announced as 321 in favor vs. 103 against.

Many players in the cannabis industry say banking-related legislation will become law at some point in the next few years, even if 2019 doesn’t bring the action that they hope to see.

“I’m fairly confident that either the SAFE Act or STATES Act will be passed,” said Rob DiPisa, co-chair of law firm Cole Schotz’s Cannabis Law Group. “I think the industry has come too far. The cat’s out of the bag, and it’s not going to disappear, so banking needs to happen.”

The STATES Act — whose full name is the Strengthening the Tenth Amendment Through Entrusting States Act — would create protections for U.S. states that have legalized cannabis for medical or recreational use. Another measure, the Marijuana Justice Act, would go further, ending the federal prohibition of the drug and expunging the records of people who have served time for marijuana use and possession.

Pot stocks, as tracked by the ETFMG Alternative Harvest ETF MJ, +0.68% , have lost 44% over the past 12 months, while the broad S&P 500 index SPX, +0.62% has gained 2%.
 

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WATCH: Drone drops marijuana, cell phone to inmates at Ohio jail
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An inmate at an Ohio jail was caught on camera waiting for a drone to drop a package containing drugs and a cell phone. (Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office)

WKYC) — The Cuyahoga County Prosecutor's Office is investigating after a drone dropped materials for inmates to use inside the county jail complex in Euclid.

Surveillance video released by the county shows a group of male inmates playing corn hole before one looks up to the sky. A dark object can then be seen dropping to the ground, and the man goes to grab it before walking away to the back wall to join the others.
 

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cybrguy

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NBC national news (NBC Nightly News) was just on and they had local carts in California tested, both dispensary bought and black market. NONE of the tested "legitimate" carts had contaminants OR Vitamin E oil. Virtually all of the black market carts DID have contaminants like Vit E and pesticides. The segment begins about 8:50 in to tonight's broadcast.
 

BabyFacedFinster

Anything worth doing, is worth overdoing.
Look at the political parties of governor's of the states that are putting out executive orders stopping sales and see the difference between "urging" and "banning".

Makes total sense:

selling vapes banned = could be bad for you

selling cigarettes not banned = must be ok
 
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His great discovery ? a raw plant acid.... ! just let people grow the plant = Fuck!!! lots of raw cannabis acids on plants = raw plants... The fucking Hell!!!

But there are people who don't want to or can't due to respiratory issues smoke/vape. And what about children? And even with standardized edibles you are getting other unnecessary compounds. This isolates just the active acid ingredient to obtain the desired result.
 
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But there are people who don't want to or can't due to respiratory issues smoke/vape. And what about children? And even with standardized edibles you are getting other unnecessary compounds. This isolates just the active acid ingredient to obtain the desired result.

What? children eat raw plants... unnecessary ? name one unnecessary compound
thanks for th elike @macbill
just mentioning eating it because we actually get the THC-a the most via that method... vaping / smoking destroy THC-a instantly
 
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But there are people who don't want to or can't due to respiratory issues smoke/vape. And what about children? And even with standardized edibles you are getting other unnecessary compounds. This isolates just the active acid ingredient to obtain the desired result.

Makes you wonder if live rosin pressed from uncured fresh buds have more medicinal qualities than dry curing first.
 

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Summer

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name one unnecessary compound

According to the NIH website, "Cannabis is a complex plant with over 400 chemical entities of which more than 60 of them are cannabinoid compounds." So my point being: if cannabis acids, solely, address certain conditions why should a person be subjected to other unnecessary chemicals & compounds. When it comes to drugs my philosophy is less is more. And we don't know to-date what interactions all these chemicals & compounds have with established medications: "1,453 drugs have obtained FDA approval as of 31 December 2013." A percentage of them cross the blood brain barrier. It's unknown how chemicals, like THC, for instance, which crosses this barrier, will interact with these drugs; will there be what the NIH refers to as "opposing effects?"

Generally, smoking pot has been the domain of the young at least since it's explosion in the 60s. Most peeps as they matured quit smoking. Now, with it's new found medicinal application, older folks, many of who are on multiple meds, are partaking, so drug interactions & contraindications are currently unknown. Babies have undeveloped immune systems, seniors have weakened systems & many have compromised immune systems. So whether topical or oral dosing, why would you subject them to possible adverse reactions by the inclusion of unnecessary chemicals/compounds. Keep it simple & safer.


Makes you wonder if live rosin pressed from uncured fresh buds have more medicinal qualities than dry curing first.

Very possible. But w/o research who knows.


That's frightening @cybrguy. All I can say that even if e-cig liquids are safe, it doesn't mean that it's safe for everyone. I've been a lifelong cig. smoker & decided to try vaping to get off cigs. Years ago, when I tried electronic cigs with pure propylene glycol, I would get splitting headaches. Recently I tried a base of 75% vegetable glycerin/25% PG base. Well, after (box)mod vaping lightly, it would take me a whole day to be able to breathe normally. I attributed this to the glycerin's viscosity coating my lung cilia until it was re-absorbed(?) Remember, as my lungs are already compromised, neither veg. glycerin nor PG seems safe/healthy for me.

Here's a good read on e-vig vaping:

https://www.mphonline.org/vaping-public-health/
 
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cybrguy

Putin is a War Criminal
I imagine that it is possible for even legitimate eliquids to be bad for you if used "improperly". I see folks all the time going after that HUGE cloud for the entertainment value, and it isn't at all surprising that when that re-condenses back in your lungs it could cause problems with congestion or introduction of foreign matter even if pretty clean. We breathe in moisture all the time, especially on a very humid day, but that is just water vapor (usually) and the lungs deal with that naturally. The lungs weren't "designed" to deal with anything other than water.
Folks have vaped ecigs designed to deliver nicotine for many years without all these problems but that doesn't require the massive (relatively) hits that many users indulge in. I'm sure even those nicotine delivery vapes are not "good" for you either but used just in that way I imagine they are less bad for you than combustion is and can effectively transition many people off of smoking cigarettes. Hopefully one would then stop that after the addiction is passed. But that is only a portion of the ecig users out there, many of whom have made vaping a lifestyle behavior and possibly sourcing their habit poorly, and I'm betting those are the folks getting sick.
 

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I imagine that it is possible for even legitimate eliquids to be bad for you if used "improperly". I see folks all the time going after that HUGE cloud for the entertainment value, and it isn't at all surprising that when that re-condenses back in your lungs it could cause problems with congestion or introduction of foreign matter even if pretty clean. We breathe in moisture all the time, especially on a very humid day, but that is just water vapor (usually) and the lungs deal with that naturally. The lungs weren't "designed" to deal with anything other than water.
Folks have vaped ecigs designed to deliver nicotine for many years without all these problems but that doesn't require the massive (relatively) hits that many users indulge in. I'm sure even those nicotine delivery vapes are not "good" for you either but used just in that way I imagine they are less bad for you than combustion is and can effectively transition many people off of smoking cigarettes. Hopefully one would then stop that after the addiction is passed. But that is only a portion of the ecig users out there, many of whom have made vaping a lifestyle behavior and possibly sourcing their habit poorly, and I'm betting those are the folks getting sick.

Except when you walk into a wooded forest and all that Pinene washed over your senses... our lungs and airways can handle things other than moisture
 
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cybrguy

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Except when you walk into a wooded forest and all that Pinene washed over your senses... our lungs and airways can handle things other than moisture
In minute amounts that is true. In the amounts one gets by huffing on a "smoke" generator? I don't think so. Not my lungs anyway. During high pollen times I cough quite a lot in the woods which is my lungs trying to expel material it can't manage.
 
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In minute amounts that is true. In the amounts one gets by huffing on a "smoke" generator? I don't think so. Not my lungs anyway. During high pollen times I cough quite a lot in the woods which is my lungs trying to expel material it can't manage.
how much and Who ETC.... all equations no doubt but we have COX/ LOX pathways to manage oxygenated lipids and the terpenes are terpenophilic/ lipohilic terpinoids once we start metabolizing them ... up to a point as with everything... a subtle dose as opposed to an entire truck load of terps... maybe a reefer madness study could be performed... take an entire truck load and dump on people to see what happens! the terps would be to blame no matter the outcome
 
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