Saionara Atomizer thread

MonkeyTime

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...I thought I tried everything but I can't say I recall trying it like that...

I'm guessing you might have a physical setup problem. If you can upload pics of everything or explain it here, it might help.

For all the options on this thing, there isn't a lot of clear guidance for beginners IMO. When I first set mine up I had the bottom vents open (Sai TAF=TOP Air Flow :doh:) and the wrong tip (for lack of better name) in the top. Wasn't getting anything from it and felt like you sound.

Flash forward to finding a pic somewhere online and realizing I had the flat cap in lieu of nub in the top and fixing the vents, and I'm a happy camper. I don't use it enough to really dial it in, but I get very flavorful, very potent hits from her now.

Don't give up just yet :tup:
 

Megaton

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Has anyone else managed to scratch the bottom of their Ti bucket when cleaning? I gave mine a good old scrape with a cheapo dab tool to get some blackened bits off and now I can see scratches!
 
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DogBoy

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I'm guessing you might have a physical setup problem.

@DogBoy bump up your settings until you get the results you want. Start at 30-33w and see how it feels.

...bingo...will 37.3 damage anything...???....

...I just tried that number by mistake and got a big smooth cloud...

Has anyone else managed to scratch the bottom of their Ti bucket when cleaning? I gave mine a good old scrape with a cheapo dab tool to get some blackened bits off and now I can see scratches!

...I will be careful not to scratch my bucket...LoL… :nod:

...maybe a Dremel tool would buff it out...

..how long can we expect the bucket/coil to last...???...
 
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passenger

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You could have a look on the Wismec Mods like the RX3 Dual or if you want a tiny Mod The RXmini. Lots of options. :)

About cleaning the titanium bucket: I scratched the black carbon out with a knife and the bucket is scratched all over. That should be no problem though I guess?

Couldn't I take it out and torch it glowing red? That should burn everything to dust. Is that healthwise recommendable with titanium?
 

anasrzi

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Anyone have a recommended mod ? Should I just grab another pico ?

Was just thinking th same thing, which mod for the Sia. I'm getting a mod box for the Longmada crystal so would be good to have one for both (if I end up getting a Sia, one day soon).

Most I've seen run at 200w with two 18650s.
 

passenger

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For what it's worth, the way I get it, it's not important how much watts your Mod can go. In fact, you want to downsize that power. I ran it at 40 Watts and went down to 30. Probably I could go lower. The way I set it up it will power up with the wattage I told it to be max and when it reaches the temperature the wattage will drop down to protect the temperature setting. From the few days I'm with this I'd say get any mod that supports Arctic Fox. Or the expensice DNA option. Max Watts doesn't count here. :) Correct me, if I'm wrong. :)
 

shredder

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Anyone have a recommended mod ? Should I just grab another pico ?

Depends on how your going to use it. If you think you'll use buckets I'd get a 2-3 battery mod. And a heat sink.

If your just using ceramic donuts like me a pico is fine.
 
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Megaton

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Does anyone have any tips on how to get a Sai working with a dna200 mod? Mine just keeps on kicking me out of TC mode! My other wismec mods seem to be fine though.
 

shredder

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Does anyone have any tips on how to get a Sai working with a dna200 mod? Mine just keeps on kicking me out of TC mode! My other wismec mods seem to be fine though.

On my pico when I had it all out if whack, I turned it off, and restarted it, and it went back to normal.

IDK if that works for you, but it won't hurt to try.
 

LesPlenty

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where do you get the heat sink from...???
Anywhere that you can buy a Sai usually sells them, mainly for use with buckets(Ti and quartz) as they need a lot of heat/power to vaporize your material.:tup:
I had a 2-hour sesh on the ceramic donut last night without having to reload, I did as @shredder suggested and kept adding and just melting more rosin until the donut looked like it was floating, probably 10 small to medium-sized dabs worth.
I set the mod to Ni TC 130c (266f) power at 30w locked on 0.70 ohms, as @shredder suggested as a starting point and was getting pretty good clouds but was making me cough a bit.
I then consulted the Sai chart on Planet of the Vapes site and set the temperature to 150c (302f) and the power to 20w and was getting a much better experience. Slightly fuller vapor and a whole lot less coughing, very happy with those figures.:haw:
The Sai was still tasting pretty good when I gave up and went to bed, could barely feel my legs, very toastie, slept like a log.:zzz:
Still getting a few hits off it today, getting whispy but not tasting bad like an empty coil would as it nears empty!
Probably not the most efficient way to use the Sai but it is better than continually loading, over and over.:2c:
Chart for a starting point;

TC (Temperature Control) Power Options
Kanthal Black Ceramic 4mm Wattage Mode Only 14-28w; Best: 26w Biggest clouds, less taste, quick heat up
Kanthal
Black Ceramic 2mm Wattage Mode Only 15-25w; Best: 23w Big clouds, less taste,Quicker heat up
Kanthal
Quartz 4mm Wattage Mode Only 14-28w, Best: 26w Big clouds, more taste, quick heat up
Kanthal
Quartz 2mm Wattage Mode Only 20-25w; Best: 23w Big clouds, more taste, quicker heat up
Stainless Steel
Black Ceramic 4mm SS: 360-400F 20-25w; Best: 20w Good clouds, good flavor, slightly slow heat up
Stainless Steel
Black Ceramic 2mm SS: 350-400F 17-25w; Best: 20w Good clouds, good flavor
Stainless Steel
Quartz 4mm SS: 360-400F 20-25w; Best: 20w Good clouds, great flavor, slightly slower heat up
Stainless Steel
Quartz 2mm SS: 350-400F 17-25w; Best: 20w Good clouds, great flavor
Titanium
Quartz x3 Ti: 420-460 20-27w; Best: 23 Good clouds, great taste, fast, consistent
Slightly more vapor and slower than x2
Titanium
Quartz x2 Ti: 340-400 15-25w; Best: 22 Good clouds, great taste, fast, consistent
Slightly faster heat up than X3 version
Titanium
Black Ceramic x3 Ti: 420-460 20-27w; Best: 23 Big clouds, good taste, fast, consistent
Ceramic Donut Ni: 300-380 15-25w; Best 18w Good clouds, great taste
Ceramic Miracle Coil A Wattage Mode Only 11-12w; Best 12w Made for thinner oils
Ceramic Miracle Coil B Wattage Mode Only 11-12w; Best 12w Made for thinner oils
Quartz Bucket Ni: 380-440 25-35w; Best 32 Great clouds, great taste, slow heat up
Ti Bucket Ni: 350-440F 25-35w; Best 32 Great clouds, good taste, slow heat up
Clapton S: 300-400F 15-25w; Best: 20w Good balance of taste and clouds
Crushed Clapton S: 300-400F 15-25w; Best: 20w Big clouds, quick heat up, less waste
 
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