Vapes that don't need stirring

Old_muel

Old_muel

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Are there many portable vapes out there that can vape a decent sized load evenly and thoroughly (dark abv) without needing stirring? Seems like the majority can't, i've found only the grasshopper and vapcap so far that will satisfactorily do it for me, what others can achieve that level of extraction with no stirring?
 
funkyhomer

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That’s a great question and I agree, my Dynavaps (+ woodscents), and grasshopper don’t need stirring. Probably the only other vape in my collection that doesn’t need stirring is my mighty or my flowerpot if it isn’t a huge bowl.
 
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david8613

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using mighty, plenty, and dynavap here no stirring at all required. the ghost mv1 might benefit sometimes with a stir to get every last bit, but I don't do it with mv1 too lazy. firefly 2 is the same as the mv1, it could use a little stir but I never do it. I save my avb so I will get it back later. lol
 
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BestBuds

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I don't stir my enano, my Arizer EQ, or any of my RBT vapes... Well, that's not entirely true, I rotate the stem on the Mi2 after every draw. But it's not stirring.
I had a long talk with my old scientist grandpa (no his name isn't Rick) and I agree with him. There is not enough innovation going into the heated air that is going into the herb chamber. He said vapes like the GS and the G43 might have a leg up because of how the little glass balls disrupt the air. He also told me to use my health stone in the Elev8r on top of the herb. Just like if I was going to do a double-decker hit but with no wax. The bowl browned easily and even when I over heated and took a big draw the herb didn't combust. It was like the healthstone acted like training wheels. Anyway, I think more companies need to focus on full extraction without stirring. Oh and my name also isn't Morty...
 
Baron23

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Mighty with a load in the native oven and a liquid pad put on top to slightly increase conduction portion and you will not ever have to stir and you will get completely even brown AVB.
 
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david8613

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I think more companies need to focus on full extraction without stirring.
THIS!

wouldn't it be cool if they put a tiny little fan under the chamber like the hybrid volcano, that would disrupt air and also push more vapor into the path.
 
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Moses Baca

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I stir my F2 bowl about halfway through. It really seems to help but I typically pack the bowl pretty full. I don't notice much difference with small loads that I don't tamp down.
 
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vapenerd

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Why do people recommend the Plenty, E-Nano and Arizer EQ in this thread? He wants a PORTABLE vaporizer! And why the Mighty? He wants DARK ABV! And he also wants a DECENT SIZED LOAD.

My recommendation: Tubo Evic.
 
Baron23

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vapenerd said:
And why the Mighty? He wants DARK ABV!
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I just told you why.

Baron23 said:
a load in the native oven and a liquid pad put on top to slightly increase conduction portion and you will not ever have to stir and you will get completely even brown AVB.
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Tubo Evic? So, here is a question for you, my very confident friend....why would you suggest a vape that is no longer in product (per Lamart), is made in Switzerland with little to no USA based sales/support, and when it was in production it often took months to get it.

And WTF is a decent size load. I'm pretty sure I can fit .5 g in my Mighty, no problem.
 
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elykpeace

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@funkyjunky please confirm but I'm pretty sure the tubo dual is now 4 heater coils (tetra heater) instead of the older models with the three heaters not completely discontinued just updated
 
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vapenerd

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Baron23 said:
I just told you why.
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So show me the dark AVB you get with the Mighty. Chocolate brown is not the same as dark. The Mighty can only do 210 degrees Celsius... so no dark AVB even at the highest setting.

Baron23 said:
Tubo Evic? So, here is a question for you, my very confident friend....why would you suggest a vape that is no longer in product (per Lamart), is made in Switzerland with little to no USA based sales/support, and when it was in production it often took months to get it.
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Ever heard of https://amp.reddit.com/r/EntExchange and other sites like that? Lamart.ch is not the only place to get a Tubo. Also, who says the OP is in the USA? Maybe he's in Europe, who knows.

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And WTF is a decent size load. I'm pretty sure I can fit .5 g in my Mighty, no problem.
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Sure, but no dark AVB, even with your liquid pad technique.
 
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Baron23

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vapenerd said:
So show me the dark AVB you get with the Mighty. Chocolate brown is not the same as dark. The Mighty can only do 210 degrees Celsius... so no dark AVB even at the highest setting.


Ever heard of https://amp.reddit.com/r/EntExchange and other sites like that? Lamart.ch is not the only place to get a Tubo. Also, who says the OP is in the USA? Maybe he's in Europe, who knows.


Sure, but no dark AVB, even with your liquid pad technique.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah....justify it anyway you want, but your full of crap on this subject.

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Lamart.ch is not the only place to get a Tubo.
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Well, Lamart is the ONLY place that EVER manufactured and sold them...I have no idea what you are going on about.

But oh yeah, let's send somebody to reddit, FFS, to buy a used, out of production, out of service, vape. :rolleyes::disgust:

vapenerd said:
Chocolate brown is not the same as dark.
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You're joking, right?

If very even chocolate brown isn't dark enough for you, perhaps you would prefer to simply burn the stuff.

This conversation is not productive, so I will no longer reply to you.
 
started@52

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I use to hate to stir, now I Kind of like it but, it has to be a stir-able bowl in either portable or desktop. The Newvape Ti Bowles are a dream to stir and look forward to doing so. FF2 with a coarse grind has a nice open bowl with a nice shelf all the way around it to catch stir off and is easily pushed right back into the bowl. MV-1 no way, hated to stir those little cups, lol. Half a bowl in a DaVinci IQ with a glass filler I didn’t need to stir, full bowl yes for sure and is a pain.
 
funkyjunky

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Baron23 said:
Well, Lamart is the ONLY place that EVER manufactured and sold them...I have no idea what you are going on about.
[...]out of production, out of service, vape. :rolleyes::disgust:
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who said i am out of service? i honor warranties from date of purchase and can repair units no problem. and yes there is the tubo dual now that is still being produced @elykpeace. also i guess around 60% of all tubos went to the US.

thanks for mentioning tubo products here :)
 
Old_muel

Old_muel

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Thanks for replies, already have milaana & tubo & definitely don't consider them stir-free (to my satisfaction anyway, great vapes though), don't doubt you could get away with it but suspect those that do maybe using wafer thin loads or something, i just never could get the inside of a decent size load evenly done like the outside without stirring (shrug). Mighty & crafty from what I've read i think are great suggestions (& yep i consider an even chocolate brown abv to be dark & spent), they're hybrids yeah? Furys & fierce too? Makes sense to me that some conduction helps get heat to the centre & achieve no-stir, always wondered what majic grasshopper has going on i don't think it's just the high r-value insulation, is minivap full convection too?
 
Jill NYC

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@Old_muel - My apologies on my first post. I missed the “dark abv” part in your OP. My bad. I take back my previous post!
I don’t think any of my suggestions would be right for that. Except the VC, which holds small amounts.
And maybe the Pax 3. But I think you would end up stirring that too (I never bother - Taste is more than spent for me). Happy to take a pic of of avb if it would help.
 
Baron23

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funkyjunky said:
who said i am out of service? i honor warranties from date of purchase and can repair units no problem. and yes there is the tubo dual now that is still being produced @elykpeace. also i guess around 60% of all tubos went to the US.

thanks for mentioning tubo products here :)
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Then my apologies and I was wrong.

I looked at your website and it said:

"the TUBO evic is no longer in production. if you are interested in TUBO products please see the TUBO DUAL or TETRAx which also feature the new TETRA heater. thank you very much for your interest."

And I made an assumption that if the OG manf wasn't producing them, then the game was over.

Again, my apologies and I was wrong about being out of service.

Also, I admit to being overly aggressive in my earlier replies to Vapenerd and apologize to him/her for that also. None of this is important enough to get stressed about.

hahaha...and it turns out the OP has a Tubo Evic already! Too funny.
 
elykpeace

elykpeace

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Baron23 said:
Then my apologies and I was wrong.

I looked at your website and it said:

"the TUBO evic is no longer in production. if you are interested in TUBO products please see the TUBO DUAL or TETRAx which also feature the new TETRA heater. thank you very much for your interest."

And I made an assumption that if the OG manf wasn't producing them, then the game was over.

Again, my apologies and I was wrong about being out of service.

Also, I admit to being overly aggressive in my earlier replies to Vapenerd and apologize to him/her for that also. None of this is important enough to get stressed about.

hahaha...and it turns out the OP has a Tubo Evic already! Too funny.
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Only ever got light tan avb with mighty. That was native and through water.
 
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Brewervapesalot

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Dark ABV is pretty gross if you ask me. Why torture beautiful green bud into that when you could just dump earlier and refill with fresh nuggets?

I mean if it's to not waste, just do something with the abv--other than contaminating your taste buds and lungs with it?
 
Old_muel

Old_muel

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Yeah there's definitely a point where it becomes no good, probly slightly different for every individual, i don't always take it real dark I'm actually not really even looking to get another vape right now just more fascinated by the fact that this few I've come across actually CAN do it without stirring & wondering how many others are out there, though being an ex-smoker i still do find it satisfying to hit up the occasional good ol reasonably dark roast, specially through the vapcap
 
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stickstones

stickstones

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When to stir is a personal thing related to what you’re trying to achieve. I stir my convection vapes after each hit, when it’s convenient. I don’t stir conduction or hybrid vapes at all. The radiant heat from those vapes gets to the center, with enough time. Color seems to confuse people. I’ve had light tan abv that was fully spent, and darker stuff with goodies still to give.
 
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