What vape would you recommend?

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I know there is no "best" vaporizer. I have been doing my own research for a while now and I have finally decided to buy my first vaporizer. It seems like the more and more research I do, the more and more brands I find. So I have decided to register on these forms and make my first post:

Following stickstones' "Things to consider when purchasing your first vaporizer"

Price: Mid range $150-$200 would be ideal I'd swing $100-$250 with enough reason.
Delivery System: Don't care as long as it works.
Efficiency: This is the biggest factor for me and what ultimately pushed me over the edge to finally decide to buy a vaporizer. I want to have my bud last as long as possible in order to save money. I wouldn't think that my use would go up as I already smoke pretty much as often as I can.
Manufacturer: This isn't really a big deal for me. I would like them to have a good reputation though. I don't want to be inhaling random chemicals.
Stealth: Doesn't really matter things can always be put in boxes.
Learning Curve: Doesn't matter
Temperature Control: I would really like to have this feature (analog dial type due to the price range i'm looking for) but I could go without if the efficiency is good enough.


Initially when I had decided to buy a vape I was looking at the aromed vaporizer because everyone I had found who had used it said it was one of the best vaporizers they've ever used. I decided that the aromed is too expensive for me because I don't know how long I will use my vaporizer for and I don't want to spend that much money on something I'm not going to use for more than a year.

I then started looking at other vaporizers that sell for cheaper. I read a lot about the MFLB, and depending on how much I like my future vaporizer, I plan on getting one sometime in the future for its portability and stealth.

I got stoned the other day and decided fuck it I'll just go order a Vapor brothers vape (within my price range and efficient enough). Unfortunately, the hands free models are sold out and on back order on every site I looked at.

I have now been looking at the Vapor cannon and the vapor tower. AFAIK the Vapor Cannon is pretty much the same thing as the Vapor brothers and a little cheaper. The Vapor Tower, which looks like an upright vapor cannon/vapor brothers, maybe its more efficient but is it $50 more efficient?

I have also read about the Purple Days is supposed to be the most efficient vape out there at its price; however, I don't think this vape allows you any temperature control. Unless this is way more efficient than the Vapor tower, I'm gonna pass on this one.


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The primary feature I'd like to have on my vaporizer is efficiency. I'm a college student with very little responsibilities so, except for when I'm about to take a test or working on an assignment/studying, I like to get high all the time. For the most part, I like to get as baked as I can and wait for it to wear off then rinse and repeat all day long. With this much use I don't see how my use could go up so I wouldn't be vaping more than I smoke now.

Just making this thread has really helped me narrow things down. Any input wold be greatly appreciated especially concerning how the vapor cannon, the vapor tower, and the purple days compare to each other.

Edit: on a bit of a side note. the only vaporizer I have ever used was one of those lower end $90 hotbox vapes. it was alright but i never felt like i got a good hit from it. I'd guess it was mainly lack of experience and lack of owning it myself so I could tinker around with it.

asquishyapple said:

I have also read about the Purple Days is supposed to be the most efficient vape out there at its price;

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The Purple Days along with the Myrtlezap are the two most efficient vaporizers on the market regardless of price.

awesome another vape thats new to me

They do seem to be a lot more responsive and quicker on he shipping than purple days.

Now are the myrtlezap and purple days comparable in the same way that the vapor brothers and vapor cannon are where they are basically the same thing and out of everyone you ask to pick one over the other you get a 50-50 split?

I've read that the myrtlezap sucks for efficiency and that ABV from the MZ can be reused in other vapes with much success. This was only one post though so I wouldn't accept it as the truth but without a contrary opinion that puts me off from buying it.

being a collage student myself, i have to say the purple days is a lifesaver. one tube before class is the perfect amount for me also. while the temp control is nice, i do not miss it one bit with the pd. my ssv sits unused 99% of the time in favor of the pd. the big hits are nice, but the ssv can really go through the weed quick.

You wouldn't happen to have any experience wth the myrtlezap/aromzap would you?
I'd go ahead and buy a puple days right now if it wasn't for the much longer shipping time

asquishyapple said:

You wouldn't happen to have any experience wth the myrtlezap/aromzap would you?
I'd go ahead and buy a puple days right now if it wasn't for the much longer shipping time

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What is the current shipping time for a PD if you purchase directly from Purple Days versus the shipping time for a Zap?

purple days' website says "Expect 3-5 weeks from order to shipping"

MZ's website says.... actually i can't find anything on their site I was looking at the shipping speed before which is usps priority mail 2-3days. So I guess MZ could have the same time from order to shipping but 3-5 weeks just seems like a long time. I wonder if the purple days are only made once you place the order.

Check these vapes & vids out apple.

Efficiency for a bag fill vaporizer in your price range would be Herbal Aire.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iZew_DWHPwg

An efficient portable that can also be used with a waterpipe would be the Supreme Vaporizer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRK4ViU9XVs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=37WlXnvvDAs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EdevCrvCEwQ


I don't own on but people love their log vapes for efficiency.
Purple days: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsA8mOF-dQA
Myrtlezap: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYwWuZYGaYk

Thanks for the videos although i'm not sure that they make the deicision any easier lol

so far the only difference between the PD and the MZ is the fact that the MZ contains brass and availability. are there really any other major differences?

the whole "brass contains lead" thing is holding me back from getting the MZ but most of what i've read about the brass and lead was from over a year ago. currently on their website, they say that the brass is 100% rohs lead free brass. AFAIK rohs doesn't require lead free just a low % so i don't see how 100% lead free and rohs go together like that. its kind of redundant like saying a square rectangle.

that herbal aire looks real nice and very efficient its just that price that gets to me cuz after taxes + shipping and any accessories that's gonna be over $250. i'd be more inclined to get it if i could find some comparisons between that and the PD or WZ as far as efficiency goes.

right now i'm leaning torwards the PD and just waiting for it. maybe i'll take a break from smoking til it arrives. i'll continue to do more research, sleep on it, and maybe place an order tomorrow

the SV looks pretty cool especially when used wth glass but with the price tag and butane i haven't even considered it.

Da Buddha is a great first time vape. Hits great and its a tank.

asquishyapple said:

so far the only difference between the PD and the MZ is the fact that the MZ contains brass and availability. are there really any other major differences?

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The warranty on the PD is 3 times as long but Rick from MZ is a stand up guy, so I have no doubt that he'd stand behind his product beyond his warranty period. That's what I hear, anyway.

Either way, if efficiency is at the top of your priority list, these types of vapes are the most efficient vapes on the market.

asquishyapple said:

that herbal aire looks real nice and very efficient its just that price that gets to me cuz after taxes + shipping and any accessories that's gonna be over $250. i'd be more inclined to get it if i could find some comparisons between that and the PD or WZ as far as efficiency goes.

right now i'm leaning torwards the PD and just waiting for it. maybe i'll take a break from smoking til it.

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Regarding the Herbie, I've heard that it is the most efficient bag/whip based vape on the market, but again, the log type vapes are more efficient.

If you're looking for efficiency in small, measured doses, and it is primarily going to be used as a personal home vape, both the PD and the MZ should be at the top of your list.

For me, i'd say the PD 'cause I've had it and used it nightly for years. It is still my daily workhorse, even after owning and trying many others. Others here would agree, but what is also true is that there are MZ owners here who would say the exact same thing about their vapes.

Both excellent vapes and both hand made by guys who are passionate about the product that they create.

asquishyapple said:

the whole "brass contains lead" thing is holding me back from getting the MZ but most of what i've read about the brass and lead was from over a year ago. currently on their website, they say that the brass is 100% rohs lead free brass. AFAIK rohs doesn't require lead free just a low % so i don't see how 100% lead free and rohs go together like that. its kind of redundant like saying a square rectangle.

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They changed the brass as other members have indicated, but you always have the choice so if you like this vape just read the their threads and look at the wood choices and pick which one fits you best.

asquishyapple said:

that herbal aire looks real nice and very efficient its just that price that gets to me cuz after taxes + shipping and any accessories that's gonna be over $250.

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You can find the Herbal Aire for as low as $179 buy it now on Ebay, and you can look in our retailer thread for discounts since most online vaporizer companies give FC Members a 12-15% discount.

asquishyapple said:

the SV looks pretty cool especially when used wth glass but with the price tag and butane i haven't even considered it.

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The Supreme is not for everyone if you don't want to use a torch but this thing is a little tank and nothing I have encountered will hit with the same thickness of vapor while also being efficient. If you are a smoker then the torch shouldn't bother you, like in the video you can see that you can take multiple hits from one heat up and it only takes a seconds to heat up again. This can also be had for $179 on ebay.

Extreme Q is cutting edge man, gets my vote!

Guys, he said that efficiency is the most important factor for him. Why recommend an Extreme or a Buddha when there are more efficient vapes on the market?

I'm currently debating between the herbalaire, the PD and the MZ. I just wish I knew more about the newer brass being used in the MZs. Lead-free by RoHS standards really means "lead-free". I don't really know enough about metal working and metallurgy to know if it is possible to have lead-free brass (without having the put it in " ") and if it is possible is it actually sold that way or do they all really mean "lead-free" when they say it?

It's just near impossible to get some more recent opinions on the two log vapes with the 100+ page threads and all the drama in them. There's more drama in those threads than I went through in all four years of high school.

the myrtlezap and Purple days are your best options.

I love my myrtlezap. Its very effecient. When people tell you you can get medicated with as little as 0.025 they are not lying. I was skeptical at first. But now, I recommend them to everyone for personal use.

so after working my way through so much drama, I found a post from Rick stating that they typically have a week turn around for orders. So 3-5x faster than PD.

caseball2051 said:

the myrtlezap and Purple days are your best options.

I love my myrtlezap. Its very effecient. When people tell you you can get medicated with as little as 0.025 they are not lying. I was skeptical at first. But now, I recommend them to everyone for personal use.

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yeah thats whats really got me sold on them. I was skeptical when i first read a report of someone using .01 grams wth success, but after reading many other reports saying similar things (that less than .1 gs works wells) it seems to be legit.

I think I'm going to end up getting the MZ just because I don't know how many more years I'm still gonna be getting high so an extra 2weeks - month of use up front would be nice. And if I were to order the PD I would probably end up getting an o to smoke in the mean time and it might be gone by the time the PD comes.

I also think Rick's business practices are better than Tom's and he's the "original"

asquishyapple said:

I also think Rick's business practices are better than Tom's and he's the "original"

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Interesting to note the negative connotation that you put on the word "drama" (post#15) that you experienced in the other threads could be potentially relit with your quote above. After reading what you read in those other threads, and implying that you didn't like the drama there, why even bring this up, only to end it with a sarcastic roll eyes smiliy?

To anyone that may be reading this thread and contemplating getting either the MZ or the PD, please don't let the above quote sway you in either direction. While both Rick and Tom are passionate about the products that they make and can sometimes get aggressive in the field of competition, they are both stand up guys that make a quality product and will stand behind them with integrity.

Crap like this has been discussed ad-infinitum, and every time it gets put to bed, someone feels compelled to relight the fire. It's really getting old and serves absolutely no purpose.

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Dude you need to quit criticizing everything someone says thats different than what you would say half of all that drama in those threads you contributed to by telling people what they should be saying instead of what they did say. I know you just want objectivity and you don't want newcomers to come to these forums and be easily swayed by people saying things without the IMO disclaimer; however, I'm in the boat that if someone wants an easy decision they're going to make it after reading what one or very few people have to say. Whereas, if the person is really trying to make an informed decision they aren't going to be swayed so easily so it doesn't really matter how people express opinions, ideas, thoughts, concerns, and facts on a product. That last line was meant a bit sarcastically (I need to quit doing this on forums as text doesn't really convey sarcasm well which was what I was trying to do with the eye roll) and I guess it really has no relevance to this thread. I've just spent too much time reading those threads and all the pages without any actual information relative to the product. The eye roll was at the whole the MZ was the original PD argument. When the MZ came from the Eterra and a lot of the improvements and upgrades may have happened as a result of Tom. I'm not trying to continue any of the drama I was just trying to laugh at it and shrug it off. Obviously this is not the right thread to do that in.
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Thanks for the help and info I just placed an order for the MZ and am looking forward to converting to vaking. One final objective aspect that swayed me is the 40 yr old wood availabe for the MZ and as long as Rick isn't making shit up that wood is almost out of stock.

Peace
/fc

asquishyapple said:

***Start here to get the short of it***

The primary feature I'd like to have on my vaporizer is efficiency. I'm a college student with very little responsibilities so, except for when I'm about to take a test or working on an assignment/studying, I like to get high all the time. For the most part, I like to get as baked as I can and wait for it to wear off then rinse and repeat all day long. With this much use I don't see how my use could go up so I wouldn't be vaping more than I smoke now.

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Well, my recommendations would be a Purple Days or clone, Herbalaire, Silver Surfer (with vaporbros mini wand), or Launch Box.

At first i thought the PD because you say efficiency is key. They have tiny loading chambers that are able to provide satisfying hits with small amounts and the small loads also help encourage conservative vapage (or so I hear). Problem that i thought of afterward is that they are set temp. A variable temp vape like the SSV or HA would be able to extract higher temp compounds that the set temps (PD, MFLB) would leave behind. The HA especially is great at revaping ABV from other vapes. So in a way it could be considered a better way to get the most out of your herb? If you plan on cooking with your abv or something, getting full extraction is possible that way, and thats what a lot of set temp vape owners do, and those who just dont like to vape at higher temps for other reasons.

There is also a higher voltage power adapter available that makes the PD style vapes run a bit hotter, but i dont remember specifics. Another thing you'll have to factor in is that they take a while (30 min?) to warm up and are designed to be left plugged in. if your lifestyle and situation allows for that, its convenient, but it could be troublesome for some. The other vapes mentioned heat up in about 3 min.

The mlfb i thought would be good because the trenches are pretty small on those, esp if you only load then 1/2 like i do. But its hard to get as much out of it as you can in the other vapes mentioned, at least without scorching a bit and dealing with some harshness. It's definitely great if you need portability tho, and stealth, for sure. This would be Bond's vape.

I'd say just read up on the threads for each vape and read some honest user reviews (instead of those bullshit "reviews" that you read elsewhere on the internet that ppl write for $ ), look at the features and maybe usage videos on youtube, and see which one looks like it would be best for your needs.

steiner666 said:

the set temps (PD, MFLB)

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The LB is anything but a fixed temperature vaporizer, as you'll discover if you ever let the battery make contact for too long. You control LB temperature with your draw and the length of battery contact time. With experience you can use the LB at any temperature you like, all the way up to turning the material black and even combusting.

steiner666 said:

The mlfb i thought would be good because the trenches are pretty small on those, esp if you only load then 1/2 like i do. But its hard to get as much out of it as you can in the other vapes mentioned, at least without scorching a bit and dealing with some harshness.

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Half a LB trench is around .05g and will easily get me stoned and keep me there all evening. I can match my Extreme any time without harshness and scorching (never tried those others) but I'm probably not looking for the same thing you are. Are you trying to coax big clouds out of it? If so, it's hard to avoid harshness because the vapour path for the LB is so short (practically in your mouth). Anyway, my point is that with proper technique, you should be able to get what you want out of the LB without scorching.

asquishyapple said:

Dude you need to quit criticizing everything someone says thats different than what you would say half of all that drama in those threads you contributed to by telling people what they should be saying instead of what they did say. I know you just want objectivity and you don't want newcomers to come to these forums and be easily swayed by people saying things without the IMO disclaimer; however, I'm in the boat that if someone wants an easy decision they're going to make it after reading what one or very few people have to say. Whereas, if the person is really trying to make an informed decision they aren't going to be swayed so easily so it doesn't really matter how people express opinions, ideas, thoughts, concerns, and facts on a product. That last line was meant a bit sarcastically (I need to quit doing this on forums as text doesn't really convey sarcasm well which was what I was trying to do with the eye roll) and I guess it really has no relevance to this thread. I've just spent too much time reading those threads and all the pages without any actual information relative to the product. The eye roll was at the whole the MZ was the original PD argument. When the MZ came from the Eterra and a lot of the improvements and upgrades may have happened as a result of Tom. I'm not trying to continue any of the drama I was just trying to laugh at it and shrug it off. Obviously this is not the right thread to do that in.
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Thanks for the help and info I just placed an order for the MZ and am looking forward to converting to vaking. One final objective aspect that swayed me is the 40 yr old wood availabe for the MZ and as long as Rick isn't making shit up that wood is almost out of stock.

Peace
/fc

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Words have a literal meaning, you didn't express your statement in a way that would give a user indication that it was meant sarcastically. To me it sounds like you slandered a mans business and after being informed that it was not an appropriate thing to do evoked your own response of "I'm an American! I'll make my own decisions!".

I'm under the opinion that if someone wants to make a decision it should be based off of real facts. How is one to make an informative decision when anyone's integrity can be put on trial with absolutely no evidence? Let's not forget to mention all of the OP's instigating fights so they can post subsequent attacks on veteran members.

Anyways, myrtlezap eh, good choice.