Cannabis Hardware (formerly NewVape) FlowerPot Twax Vaporizer

Zangano Cruel

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Entrada,
White Tahoe Cookies
vaked by, WeedEater uncapped, 666F.
Primer plato,
Black Dog Kush “salsa”
hervido por, D-Cup capped, 555F.
La Pipa de Vidrio,
Clear Matrix, de Möbius
Postre,
Dracarys Clouds
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August 19, 2019
 
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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I am not sure the WE was solely your idea...There have been quite a few of us asking for a flower only version for quite some time.

Lets clear something up right away, I never once suggested that a dry herb centric flowerpot was "solely" my idea. Pretty sure @emmdeemo was the first to suggest a flower only version. Hell, it might have been you! We've all been posting in this thread for ages.

However, the actual product that you own is uncannily similar to what I described in a string of emails shortly before its release.

My original concept was 100% MACOR though, which I named "Stoneware" to signify its material progression over titanium flowerpots.


Plenty of bowls, bubblers etc have carb holes to restrict and release airflow. This is essentially doing the same thing, no?

Try lighting a bowl with the carb hole open. ;)
Not really the same thing, no.

In no way shape or form am I bitter about any of this, I have mad love for everyone at NewVape HQ.
I'm only replying cause for some strange reason I actually feel guilty over your issues with the device, that's how much I believed in the concept.

So cheers to all of you fine folks, and happy vaping!! :wave:
 

started@52

Well-Known Member
I don’t think reducing the bore size reduces bowl pressure or boiling point. I’m not a fan of capping the WE or Vrod but who cares if someone else likes to? WE is going up to 725 and I’m capping tonight just to give both a shot, lol.
 
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Summer

Long Island, NY
@newvape918, so you are not including the SH? Assuming it's being dc'd or just not being promoted anymore?

I'd make the graph as detailed as possible, so I'd put a big curly bracket { next to the screen, shovelhead & connector post with a pic of the fixed screen glass bowl preceding the bracket as an option in place of these 3 parts, then an * under the glass bowl to say: *use of add'l. ti screen optional.

shovelhead/panhead.

Just my :2c:.
 
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started@52

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Let’s stop complicating things and just vape what ever way we want to, lol.

PS. I am one of the last people to be telling other people to stop complicating things :lol::lol::lol:.
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
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I don’t think reducing the bore size reduces bowl pressure or boiling point.
IMO if the bore holes are small enough, they should lower the pressure during a hit just as a carb cap does. However I don't think that a more restrictive hit would be for everybody as I'm sure some (most?) really like the wide open, non-restrictive hit that it's known for. Maybe a low-pressure version of the WE could be made? :shrug: Edwyn loves to tinker, y'know... :brow:

:peace:
 

started@52

Well-Known Member
IMO if the bore holes are small enough, they should lower the pressure during a hit just as a carb cap does. However I don't think that a more restrictive hit would be for everybody as I'm sure some (most?) really like the wide open, non-restrictive hit that it's known for. Maybe a low-pressure version of the WE could be made? :shrug: Edwyn loves to tinker, y'know... :brow:

:peace:
You can plug the holes in the WE with the little plugs NV sells for a buck each. Might be interesting to try but I’m loving how I have mine set. I did try 725° and a Vrod carb cap and was surprised at how comfortable short draws were. When my glass is pure vape I uncap/remove WE and clear bowl. Densest vape I have ever had and could keep drawing. Gives me a new option.
 

ChooChooCharlie

Well-Known Member
IMO if the bore holes are small enough, they should lower the pressure during a hit just as a carb cap does ... Maybe a low-pressure version of the WE could be made?
:peace:

Smaller holes increase drag resistance

Brain conflates air drag resistance with "vacuum"

Pressure is not at play in an open system

And, please don't resurrect Bernoulli -- only at point of restriction and at higher velocities
 

Xclerk

The Universe is our endless supply
IMO if the bore holes are small enough, they should lower the pressure during a hit just as a carb cap does. However I don't think that a more restrictive hit would be for everybody as I'm sure some (most?) really like the wide open, non-restrictive hit that it's known for. Maybe a low-pressure version of the WE could be made? :shrug: Edwyn loves to tinker, y'know... :brow:

:peace:
I really like this maybe this is somthing we can see in a v2 weedeater possibly interchangable center nut w varried amounts of holes for diffrent air restrictions. At the same time being the nut itself. Have a master kit that comes w all of them. @Stu think u could be onto something. Or I could just be really high and just think I'm thinking on an engeneer level lol. Already doin doodles and shit
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
IMO if the bore holes are small enough, they should lower the pressure during a hit just as a carb cap does. However I don't think that a more restrictive hit would be for everybody as I'm sure some (most?) really like the wide open, non-restrictive hit that it's known for. Maybe a low-pressure version of the WE could be made? :shrug: Edwyn loves to tinker, y'know... :brow:

:peace:

The easy way to do it would be to just transfer my findings with the SH and that nifty 6 hole carb cap I had.

That would lead to a permanently capped WE with NO draw resistance but the added benefit of capped hits - lower temps/smoother hits/same thick thick milk :)

The airflow would still feel wide open.

#brokenrecord ;):D:lol:
 

Chris_CH

Company Rep
Company Rep
Really just not promoting it. There is no reason to discontinue the Showerhead since its so well loved, but the more items we add, the more confusing it'll be for a newb coming into the fold. Trying to see things from the outside a little.



@newvape918, so you are not including the SH? Assuming it's being dc'd or just not being promoted anymore?

I'd make the graph as detailed as possible, so I'd put a big curly bracket { next to the screen, shovelhead & connector post with a pic of the fixed screen glass bowl preceding the bracket as an option in place of these 3 parts, then an * under the glass bowl to say: *use of add'l. ti screen optional.

shovelhead/panhead.

Just my :2c:.
 

PandaLee

Well-Known Member
You can plug the holes in the WE with the little plugs NV sells for a buck each.

I can see an adjustable air-flow version coming out in the future. Kind of like how you adjust the airflow on ecig/vape atomizers heads by twisting a part to expose or close air holes. Although for the newvape heads it would require a bit more ingenuity to design!
 

EmDeemo

ACCOUNT INACTIVE
I can see an adjustable air-flow version coming out in the future. Kind of like how you adjust the airflow on ecig/vape atomizers heads by twisting a part to expose or close air holes. Although for the newvape heads it would require a bit more ingenuity to design!

This has come up a few times in thread, and fairly early on I think maybe? I think its a good notion, user defined airflow, but as you point out, the effort it would take to design it, fiddly sliding parts to manufacture, and how fiddly it would likely be to use, all with little to no improvement over just using a carb cap or the air hole plugs, might be why its never a direction that NV has gone in... so far :)

I mean, who knows what the hell NV's devious minds are cooking up in the background :)
 

Xclerk

The Universe is our endless supply
You can plug the holes in the WE with the little plugs NV sells for a buck each. Might be interesting to try but I’m loving how I have mine set. I did try 725° and a Vrod carb cap and was surprised at how comfortable short draws were. When my glass is pure vape I uncap/remove WE and clear bowl. Densest vape I have ever had and could keep drawing. Gives me a new option.
I had no odea they had these. Prob will gibe them a try
 

Baron23

Well-Known Member
I don’t think reducing the bore size reduces bowl pressure or boiling point.

Yes, it will not if its below the load (that is, past the load in the direction of airflow). Capping puts the restriction before the load, drops internal bowl pressure, hence drops boiling points. A significant amount...who knows, but subjectively it does seem to do just that.

Now, when we say "bore hole" that to me is the bore of the bowl's post.

If you mean reducing the air input holes on top of the heater, then yes, this will...if reduced enough that your draw outpaces the amount of air that can come in....cause a restriction and lower pressure in the bowl.

I would rather cap and have the option than be given a higher draw restriction constantly. Just me, I guess.
 

Zangano Cruel

IG zan.cru (code) zancru (5% NV checkout discount)
Lunch Vake & Break!!!
White Tahoe Cookies flower
Ti Shovelhead bowl,double weave Ti screen
WeedEater at 666F
Clear Matrix Möbius
Uncapped first hit...
Dracarys Clouds
D-Cup carb capped 2nd hit...
Dracarys Clouds
Consensus...
25/8/366 Dracarys Clouds
“L'effetto Stromboli è buono!!” Jajajajajaj
Stay vaped!!!

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invertedisdead

PHASE3
Manufacturer
I, for one, used the term "bore hole" in the latter sense (the post's diameter didn't cross my mind).

:peace:

With convection vaporization, since the load never really gets "packed," the major difference I notice between the flowerpot and an old school bong hit, airflow wise, is an old fashioned is restricted enough in draw that it really needs the slide pulled to clear the chamber; with the Flowerpot I can clear the tube without even removing the heater. That offers a very comfortable, open airflow with minimal draw resistance, but that openness does affect vapor density to whatever degree.

It's subjective because everyone has different breath control, but since I like to use the Flowerpot with more oldschool beaker bongs and straight tubes, a more restricted airflow would help mimic the feel of a packed push bowl. I've used the showercap to achieve draw restriction, but on a 45 degree jointed downstem it's not super stable, and adds another element of hot mass to deal with. Lets just say when you have a big beaker bong in your lap, you don't really want a steaming showercap falling off... Been there!


Normally on a typical one hole combustion bowl, it serves as the airflow bottleneck, but since we need more surface area in our bowl for even vaporization of ground herb, airflow tends to increase there. Just a slight reduction in intake size in the heat exchanger would milk fatter at lower PID temperatures, and not place quite as much emphasis on personal breath control ability.

So why not just use a smaller pipe? That's certainly an option that works incredibly well, but after trying many shapes and sizes, I really do like the cooler vapor and nostalgic experience afforded by a larger water pipe. Something that "feels home" about it all! :smug:



Like my grandma always used to say, "Home is where the e-nail is!"
 

YaMon

Vaping since 2010
With convection vaporization, since the load never really gets "packed," the major difference I notice between the flowerpot and an old school bong hit, airflow wise, is an old fashioned is restricted enough in draw that it really needs the slide pulled to clear the chamber;
I suspect the stacking is a result of thinner cleaner less dense air finding its way out more easily (fluid dynamics) as opposed to a lowering or pressure which subsequently lowers boiling points of liquids, like terpenes.
 
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