(UK) are almost all destillates fake, unsafe to cunsume?

simplywonderful

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Hi Im wondering if every concentrate here in uk is fake (cartridges from china and some possible tainted oil)
I would also like to ask you guys if its possible to get something authentic and genuine
Thank you
 
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ShedDweller

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I believe most are fake. I think the best way to go about it is to buy shatter/wax and then make your own. Can't be sure the shatter is perfect quality but at least it's probably safer than black market distillate.
 
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Sensory Leaf

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Obviously it's speculation... But IV heard; the carts/flower/extract that doesn't meet the stringent standards set by legal states, is what ends up getting shipped and sold over here in the UK.
 
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ShedDweller

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As far as imports across the Atlantic go we get a lot of light dep stuff which doesn't quite make top shelf grade in the US. It's still very good just not as pretty as some of the top nugs you find in North America.

Many people will opt just for European grown stuff instead. It's often between 15-20%, i have never seen any flower testing over 25% here.
 
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simplywonderful

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I believe most are fake. I think the best way to go about it is to buy shatter/wax and then make your own. Can't be sure the shatter is perfect quality but at least it's probably safer than black market distillate.
That was my idea, but Im still figuring out if I should use PG or VG or mtc. Is glass shatter, or budder or wax better for this purpose?. My situation is kind of weird Im able to get organic, yet kind of low grade (Autos) little frosty, hermies, shakes etc, get you buzzed but no near close as you would call mids in us or even lowgrade on dnm. :D It kinds of suck because its kind of pricy, I vape about 30-50g per month and the tolerance builds fast, its not economical at all because when I tried a good gram it lasted me three days instead of few hours :D I hoped to get finally something in good quality to start the process of making cart or get a cart itself.
 
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simplywonderful

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Obviously it's speculation... But IV heard; the carts/flower/extract that doesn't meet the stringent standards set by legal states, is what ends up getting shipped and sold over here in the UK.
damn thats some scary shit, Its like, send the pesticide tainted carts to our fam overseas , let see what happens after some years, monitor cancer and tumor levels of the town
As far as imports across the Atlantic go we get a lot of light dep stuff which doesn't quite make top shelf grade in the US. It's still very good just not as pretty as some of the top nugs you find in North America.

Many people will opt just for European grown stuff instead. It's often between 15-20%, i have never seen any flower testing over 25% here.
I saw some actual test and it was tested around 11% :D are you in US? the progress with high % strains are crazy there.
I wanted to try this for economic reason, to see how the cart will last compared to the bud and shake Im vaping right now.
 
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Many people will opt just for European grown stuff instead. It's often between 15-20%, i have never seen any flower testing over 25% here.
No matter if you use a 15%/20%/25% THC strain as starting material, this is will increase the yield but not so much the final quality product... I'm even under the impression the low thc level strains offer a better quality final product in term of taste but some will disagree I think...

You can get this high level strains seeds in Europe... after that it's a matter of grower and since weed is illegal it's always very difficult to offer the best growing practices to our plants. I agree most weeds aren't on the specified thc level but who knows since I never seen a homegrown weed tested around. I saw there is a Tchek potency tester, a thing supposed to determine THC level but it doesn't look very accurate with flowers sadly (a bit more with concentrates and tinctures). Although I'm pretty sure I already smoked (yes it was before vaping...) 2 very high thc strains both grown by friends which was so powerfull it was a bit too much for me... first was a White Diesel and the most powerfull was a Euphoria which put my brain in exploded motion, was unable even to walk or speak and it was the only strain I was ever hesitating to use. Both was hydroponic grown... I'm totally against indoor grows since environmental reasons but have to agree there was the most potent strains i ever tried. For flavor I think outdoor is the best.
 

simplywonderful

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No matter if you use a 15%/20%/25% THC strain as starting material, this is will increase the yield but not so much the final quality product... I'm even under the impression the low thc level strains offer a better quality final product in term of taste but some will disagree I think...

You can get this high level strains seeds in Europe... after that it's a matter of grower and since weed is illegal it's always very difficult to offer the best growing practices to our plants. I agree most weeds aren't on the specified thc level but who knows since I never seen a homegrown weed tested around. I saw there is a Tchek potency tester, a thing supposed to determine THC level but it doesn't look very accurate with flowers sadly (a bit more with concentrates and tinctures). Although I'm pretty sure I already smoked (yes it was before vaping...) 2 very high thc strains both grown by friends which was so powerfull it was a bit too much for me... first was a White Diesel and the most powerfull was a Euphoria which put my brain in exploded motion, was unable even to walk or speak and it was the only strain I was ever hesitating to use. Both was hydroponic grown... I'm totally against indoor grows since environmental reasons but have to agree there was the most potent strains i ever tried. For flavor I think outdoor is the best.
Hi you are absolutelly right about the starting material, but by that 10-15% statement I meant actually the content in % in the cartridge itself .
I will check out about that tchek thing, I saw something called higrade (they sell you lens and their app) you make photos of your bud and the a.i algorythm will determine which of their trillions of pictures is your closest too. They claim only 3% chance of failure of accuracy or whatever it is called, which is the same as with lab tests that cost real money. I never found anything reliable ( any reliable review on this product). I believe the out is also the best for the taste and that you can get same quality as in if you got bit of luck and use the right soil nutes, etc.
btw do you mean low grade thc strains with high cbd are possible to obtain here in EU , I know only about dinamed with such a low thc ratio, Do you know other breeders, banks or people that have these type of genetics? thank you very much and have a beautiful day
 
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davesmith

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Imo all carts except pure bho sauce carts (and even then tbh) are bullshit. Vaping distalate with added terps in a chinese made electric shitbox is not the one. I eat mainly home cooked organic food, why would i inhale the mcdonalds of the weed world. Pre packaged, over processed shite. Steer clear imo but im not the general public and the general public live those things (fuck knows why). Imo a concentrate pen is a much better solution.
 

MegaMan2k

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@davesmith Word-

Carts are being dumped ALL over europe right now, its madness, BOMBED would be a more fitting word indeed- Im sure most of these little shitsticks would fail testing if they havnt already. !

Personally Ive been getting headaches from all desti-pens so far. no exceptions. -.-
 

Okla68

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Hi you are absolutelly right about the starting material, but by that 10-15% statement I meant actually the content in % in the cartridge itself .
I will check out about that tchek thing, I saw something called higrade (they sell you lens and their app) you make photos of your bud and the a.i algorythm will determine which of their trillions of pictures is your closest too. They claim only 3% chance of failure of accuracy or whatever it is called, which is the same as with lab tests that cost real money. I never found anything reliable ( any reliable review on this product). I believe the out is also the best for the taste and that you can get same quality as in if you got bit of luck and use the right soil nutes, etc.
btw do you mean low grade thc strains with high cbd are possible to obtain here in EU , I know only about dinamed with such a low thc ratio, Do you know other breeders, banks or people that have these type of genetics? thank you very much and have a beautiful day
I have a Higrade...sometimes it impresses me, sometimes it makes me shake my head. Had mine 3 years maybe, its only failed me a couple times. I would purchase it again, if nothing but the novelty of it. Usually pretty damn close.
 
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Notcoded419

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Imo all carts except pure bho sauce carts (and even then tbh) are bullshit. Vaping distalate with added terps in a chinese made electric shitbox is not the one. I eat mainly home cooked organic food, why would i inhale the mcdonalds of the weed world. Pre packaged, over processed shite. Steer clear imo but im not the general public and the general public live those things (fuck knows why). Imo a concentrate pen is a much better solution.
I call them the bologna of weed. They take the scraps, process, add a bunch of stuff to stabilize and a little for flavor, then send it out.
 
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