Healthy Rips FURY EDGE
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sickmanfraud
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Unless I missed it I did not see if the new Edge mouthpieces, accessory attachment, etc. would work on a Fury 2?
@Summer said: The dosing caps look identical to the one I got with the POTV One. The top of the cap screws on. I don't care for it because of the decreased load size & the increased draw resistance. I just load directly in the bowl.
I think the increased resistance is only if you pack the capsule too tight. Try again with less material and you may be pleasantly surprised.
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SixStringToker
Naked member
Those dosing caps look identical to the ones that we've been using with the PoV One. I love em. For the way that I use my One, they just work better than the all mesh ones and they are indeed bigger. You can actually fit the mesh capsule (sans the lid) inside the solid ones.
I use them mostly as chamber reducers for when I only want to do one or two medium sized hits; even have one half filled with steel mesh (pictured above) for a single hit. They're precision made and are a nice slip fit inside the chamber. The heat from the chamber walls transfers very quickly to the capsule walls, likely helping with the conduction aspect, which is probably why they perform a bit better than the all-mesh capsules.
Also, the lids don't screw on as someone else mentioned (that'd be a freakin' nightmare!); they're press fit.
But dang... they sure are tiny! With the WPA and a small 7" glass piece, I can rip thru an entire dosing capsule in one hit. One moderately-dense, awesomely tasty rip....
I use them mostly as chamber reducers for when I only want to do one or two medium sized hits; even have one half filled with steel mesh (pictured above) for a single hit. They're precision made and are a nice slip fit inside the chamber. The heat from the chamber walls transfers very quickly to the capsule walls, likely helping with the conduction aspect, which is probably why they perform a bit better than the all-mesh capsules.
Also, the lids don't screw on as someone else mentioned (that'd be a freakin' nightmare!); they're press fit.
But dang... they sure are tiny! With the WPA and a small 7" glass piece, I can rip thru an entire dosing capsule in one hit. One moderately-dense, awesomely tasty rip....
Was hat me?...oops if I did.
The threaded capsule made for the CFx looks very similar but is a nightmare if you are not careful with cleaning it very regularly due to the minute threads. (it is still a nice piece of machining though
)The pop tops look great.
SixStringToker
Naked member
I was going to wait a bit before pulling the trigger to see if the Edge suffers from the same temperature drop as my Fierce, but:
I lack self control...
The PoV One Capsules fit perfectly. They should since they're likely the same part as the new Edge capsules. All of my PoV One accessories fit the Edge accessory attachment with no problems. The Sidewinder stem doesn't go deep enough into the accessory attachment to engage the o-ring, but it's a pretty snug fit and doesn't actually need the o-ring.
No robot fart flavors after a couple of burn-off sessions. I used my Volcano Hybrid to pump air thru the Edge via the intake on the bottom during my burn-offs so there may have been a bit of robot fart flavor during the burn-offs, but it's definitely gone now.
I put two chambers and two capsules thru the Edge and did the same with my PoV One for comparison, using herb from the same grind. Initial impressions (relative to the PoV One) are mild disappointment but, admittedly, this was a pretty brief test. I want to give it a full workout over the weekend before really passing judgement.
For each of my sessions, I used the WPA adaptor and my favorite little glass (for air-cooling):
https://www.dhgate.com/product/toro-oil-rig-glass-bong-mini-bong-5mm-thickness/456336394.html
That glass is really not that great with water since there's nothing to prevent splatters from going right up the mouthpiece and into your orifice, but it's great for air-cooling; a definite step up from the Sidewinder in terms of cooling.
At the same temperature, the Edge doesn't milk up the glass quite as densely as the PoV One. The flavor is comparable, if possibly a bit more subdued... but I could be fooling myself there since I'm aware of the fact that the vapor isn't quite as dense. It looks like I have to increase the temperature by about 10 degrees for it to milk up the bong like the One does but I'm all "tested out" at the moment, so I'll have to play with it some more over the weekend and give my thoughts after that.
I haven't checked to see how much the temperature drops during my typical hits; will do that this weekend. During my normal sessions (3 to 4 hits to burn thru a capsule and 4 to 5 hits to burn thru a chamber), my firmware-updated Fierce drops over 20 degrees F and my One drops less than 10 degrees. Using that glass to do a hard hit, I can get the Fierce to drop 40 degrees F and the One about 25 degrees. For reference my Mighty drops about 10 degrees in that same hard-hit situation. 'Will be interesting to see how the Edge fares in comparison.
Also, please tell me that I'm not the only one seeing a smiley face in the bulb at the end of the Sidewinder stem in that photo... I mean, I DID vape a lot, but not THAT much!
I lack self control...
The PoV One Capsules fit perfectly. They should since they're likely the same part as the new Edge capsules. All of my PoV One accessories fit the Edge accessory attachment with no problems. The Sidewinder stem doesn't go deep enough into the accessory attachment to engage the o-ring, but it's a pretty snug fit and doesn't actually need the o-ring.
No robot fart flavors after a couple of burn-off sessions. I used my Volcano Hybrid to pump air thru the Edge via the intake on the bottom during my burn-offs so there may have been a bit of robot fart flavor during the burn-offs, but it's definitely gone now.
I put two chambers and two capsules thru the Edge and did the same with my PoV One for comparison, using herb from the same grind. Initial impressions (relative to the PoV One) are mild disappointment but, admittedly, this was a pretty brief test. I want to give it a full workout over the weekend before really passing judgement.
For each of my sessions, I used the WPA adaptor and my favorite little glass (for air-cooling):
https://www.dhgate.com/product/toro-oil-rig-glass-bong-mini-bong-5mm-thickness/456336394.html
That glass is really not that great with water since there's nothing to prevent splatters from going right up the mouthpiece and into your orifice, but it's great for air-cooling; a definite step up from the Sidewinder in terms of cooling.
At the same temperature, the Edge doesn't milk up the glass quite as densely as the PoV One. The flavor is comparable, if possibly a bit more subdued... but I could be fooling myself there since I'm aware of the fact that the vapor isn't quite as dense. It looks like I have to increase the temperature by about 10 degrees for it to milk up the bong like the One does but I'm all "tested out" at the moment, so I'll have to play with it some more over the weekend and give my thoughts after that.
I haven't checked to see how much the temperature drops during my typical hits; will do that this weekend. During my normal sessions (3 to 4 hits to burn thru a capsule and 4 to 5 hits to burn thru a chamber), my firmware-updated Fierce drops over 20 degrees F and my One drops less than 10 degrees. Using that glass to do a hard hit, I can get the Fierce to drop 40 degrees F and the One about 25 degrees. For reference my Mighty drops about 10 degrees in that same hard-hit situation. 'Will be interesting to see how the Edge fares in comparison.
Also, please tell me that I'm not the only one seeing a smiley face in the bulb at the end of the Sidewinder stem in that photo... I mean, I DID vape a lot, but not THAT much!
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Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
That is most definitely a smile! If it winks at you, THEN you’ve had too much.
My new Edge is charging up now. Can’t wait for the testing to begin!
Traveler
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I got mine in today and tried a bowl of Puck Yeah through it. The taste was surprisingly good but, k don't think I'm going to be able to replace my mighty as my work carry. It is definitely well made and works well. It is definitely worth the asking price, it just doesn't fit my use-case the way I had hoped it would. Ah well.....off to the exchange
olivianewtonjohn
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So not as good flavor as your mighty?
OF
Well-Known Member
Give it a little time, based on our experience with F2 it's likely to 'grow on you'.
I got mine today as well, charged it, did a couple burn offs (nothing came off, but old habits....) and then a test load. Must have worked well, I took an unscheduled nap and woke up smiling. I know this one is going to see a lot of use, at the expense of the F2.......
So it's basically half an inch or so taller than F2, with the extra coming 'above the bowl'. That is the MP is longer, although the F2 will fit if you hold it up. The covers basically interchange even though EDGE is a very tiny bit thicker. The glass MP is 'just the ticket' I think. The airpath seal is very solid. Heatup is faster, not that it was all that slow with F2. The battery is definitely bigger, 3 full sessions and still on 'full'? Granted 2 of those were burn offs so didn't use normal power, but still very nice.
The vibration part is neat, not very loud unless you put it on a wooden table....... If you do, it kinda shouts at you.
Another winner for HR! A very useful update on F2 for most of us I think. In a still very 'pocket friendly' package.
Now to order some of the new style capsules, although 'barefoot' works just fine thank you very much.
Regards to all.
OF
Traveler
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Not as good, but it does taste very good. The vapor just doesn't have that dimensional quality that I get from my mighty, it feels a bit flat. I'm not sure how to put it into words lol. It does but very well and the build quality is just too notch. I'm going to give it a week and see if it grows on me a bit before it goes up on the block with the other recent almosts: ambit and V4 crucible
I think the faster heat-up of the Mighty aluminium bowl adds to the initial 'fullness' of the Mighty's vapor as compared to a S/S bowl.
OF
Well-Known Member
I think you're right, even though I've never used a Mighty. From a material POV SS is a bad choice conduction wise. Made worse by making it thinner as the tendency is. Yet we 'demand' SS, so that's what tends to happen?
Copper, and Copper based alloys, have appearance issues (don't 'look clean'). From a material POV perhaps the best call is Nickle plated Aluminum as ThermoVape used, although it's more expensive?
Given enough time, the heat will eventually conduct through of course but we've been raised on 'time is money'.
Regards to all.
OF
Jill NYC
Portable Hoarder
I got my Edge yesterday, and my first impression is
Flavor is very good (I have had issues with my Fierce but they are not present in the Edge)
I had very good clouds at 368F - they seem very similar to the F2. I will do a few back to back hits of both Edge and F2 tonight - but I do not notice any temp difference thus far.
Love the 5 minute timer. Love the vibration notification (FYI @OF - a glass table makes a lot of noise as well!)
The size difference is barely noticeable and feels great in the hand.
If anyone wants me to test out anything - let me know.
I did not get the new capsules (I wish I had been able to order with Edge, but alas sometimes the early bird misses the worm)
I have the black bent mp which is smaller than the F2 bent stem, but seems to work as well.
So far, really happy with the Edge!!
Flavor is very good (I have had issues with my Fierce but they are not present in the Edge)
I had very good clouds at 368F - they seem very similar to the F2. I will do a few back to back hits of both Edge and F2 tonight - but I do not notice any temp difference thus far.
Love the 5 minute timer. Love the vibration notification (FYI @OF - a glass table makes a lot of noise as well!)
The size difference is barely noticeable and feels great in the hand.
If anyone wants me to test out anything - let me know.
I did not get the new capsules (I wish I had been able to order with Edge, but alas sometimes the early bird misses the worm)
I have the black bent mp which is smaller than the F2 bent stem, but seems to work as well.
So far, really happy with the Edge!!
SixStringToker
Naked member
Flavor chasing with the Edge and the One:
THAT most very definitely milks up the glass.
THAT most very definitely milks up the glass.
For anyone that has a fury and an edge is there really any difference in performance between the two besides the battery life? To me it looks like the biggest improvement is a bigger battery and a better mouthpiece for glass attachments. Just wondering if those are the main differences or not?
ohmygodimsohigh
Well-Known Member
vapor performance is pretty much the same.
I did a side-by-side in my video and the Fury 2 actually out-vapored the Edge, but in normal operation they both feel like the same vapor.
OF
Well-Known Member
I agree, no practical differences. Nor can I see any reason why there might be. Same basic oven (even take the same capsules), same vapor path. The only difference I found is modest, no doubt due to the new (very clean) status of my EDGE. When it's had some use like F2 I expect that to disappear 'in a puff of smoke' as it were.
There is, I think a modest advantage in heat up times, but it's not really all that useful as you still need to wait for the 'heat soak' to get to full output. Still nice to have.
The longer MP does make it a little harder to open up, you have to take care gripping the body to be sure you're low enough down so you're not holding the MP down with your grip...... Not a good time to use force if you're pushing on a glass stem? The glass is very thick but it's still glass.
If you like F2, you'll love EDGE I think. Nothing magic, just more battery life and better accessory options in a very slightly taller package. Oh, yeah, potentially faster recharge? You have to decide if it's enough of an upgrade to justify the price, but having both handy I'm sure F2 will see less use here.
Regards to all.
OF
ohmygodimsohigh
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@0F Great observation about the taller MP of the Edge and the effort to remove it!
I fiddled with that difference for a while but the topic didn't surface during the video shoot.
I noticed the glass sits more securely with the Edge's glass adapter than it does with The One's.
I fiddled with that difference for a while but the topic didn't surface during the video shoot.
I noticed the glass sits more securely with the Edge's glass adapter than it does with The One's.
OF
Well-Known Member
Thanks. At first I thought it was just 'cuz it's new, then the 'this isn't right' light went on......
I'll take your word for it, not having a 'The One' to compare. I suspect folks will be pleased with that. I'll venture an opinion it's because HR has done themselves proud again, you'll count 3 o-rings making that connection. They can get a solid grip and dependable seal that way without a lot of compression (meaning the seals will last much longer as well).
On the opening it up front, you'll notice the adapter body has 3 ribs on each side? This means you can pull it off rather than pushing. I'm finding that easier, you might try it that way?
OF
SixStringToker
Naked member
Internally, the two accessory attachments are identical; the screen gaskets are even interchangeable. They both have the same three o-rings, spaced identically up from the screen gasket. The only difference between the attachments is a few mm in height, the style of the grips on the side (ribs vs. indentations) and the fact that the POV One’s accessory attachment has a 45-degree(ish) taper from the top. All other profiles and even the two clip points at the top are mechanically identical.
That taper in the One’s accessory attachment means that the accessories don’t have quite the same support at the very top of the attachment. The accessories are held in place just as rigidly if you wiggle them from side to side or even towards the display, but they have just a tiny bit more movement if you wiggle them away from the screen. It’s a very small difference, but I noticed that as well.
I still prefer the One’s accessory attachment, despite that, and was a little disappointed that the Edge doesn’t have that same taper. The way that I grip the One when I’m using it with a stem lines that taper up perfectly between the knuckle and base of my thumb. It’s just slightly more comfortable to grip, tho that’s certainly not a show stopper for the Edge, just like the attachments having a slight bit more movement in one direction at the top of the attachment is not a show stopper for the One (for me).
Edit: Doh! I just noticed that ohmygodimsohigh‘s Post was referring to the stability of the Edge’s vs the One’s WPA in glass while we were talking about the stability of the accessories inside the attachment. Heh. My Edge’s WPA does seem a bit more stable in glass, but I attributed that to the fact that mine is so clean and grippy still.
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@HealthyRips.com Does the Edge accessory- mouthpiece come with the short glass stem? I can't find just the short stem listed. I would like one for Fury2 and the 3d- stem might not be the most stealth.
OF
Well-Known Member
Probably won't do you any good, the EDGE stem is .468 OD, F2 is .420. Even in metric it's going to be too big to fit F2. Nor does it include a screen/barrier to keep the herb in the bowl (it depends on the screen in the gasket), you'll likely suck the oven dry on the first serious hit......
Regards to all.
OF
I meant I would like to have the same mouthpiece and stem as Edge has, but the accessories attachment- mouthpiece seems to be withouth a stem when ordered separately. Thank you for the help still! I don't like the Fury2 style where you put the glass stem in to the oven and thats why i would prefer the Edge- mp
OF
Well-Known Member
You're welcome, but I still think you're fighting an uphill battle. The MP and accessory attachment from EDGE will not work with F2 as I said above. They are about half an inch 'taller' than F2 so won't latch on F2.
Your call.
OF