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MUSA Wooden Vape

blokenoname

DIY Log Dabbler 😁🪵💪💨💨💨
Just for a bit of clarification: I am not and have never been an official or unofficial tester for the MUSA and I'm certainly not the one, Tobias originally built his MUSA for. I bought my MUSA regularly from Tobias, like anyone else here.
Tobias started his thread here back in 2016, as you can see from his initial post and I fired up my DIY 'Cork Bomber' thread only in April 2018.

As we both live in Germany, a fruitful conservation between Tobias and me ensued after I bought his vape, in which he explicitly allowed me to use his basic design for my experiments with a halogen based Log. However, those very first Halo Logs of mine, which you see only at the first two pages of my thread (apart from a one shot, I did later on), were rather amateurish attempts compared to the original MUSA and as my knowledge and skills grew and some other Log makers and DIY folks chimed in with advice (e.g. Underdog's Dave, HI's Alan and also Lazylathe), I soon switched to building more traditional Logs, powered by cartridge and resistor based heaters. The final model, the 'Misty' is largely inspired by Alan's original design for the HI/Heat Island Log... and well, like the HI itself, it hasn't a shred of insulation for the wiring ;)
However... as you can see from the pics, I don't use a side connector, but have the resistor/cartridge soldered straight up onto the jack, so that the heater is one stiff solid piece now, which is user replaceable and gets threaded in from the bottom and then connects to a right angle plug (not in the pics). Once it's in place, accidentally turning it is nigh impossible, even when you remove the plug, due to the plug's 90° angle and the recess in the wood, the plug rests in.

For the MUSA, two bits of insulated wiring (the coper wiring doesn't even get warm, so far away from the bulb and with the clamps in between) and a drop of glue to fixate the DC jack more securely in the wooden shell should suffice as an improvement and if I get that correctly from the discussion here, Tobias already agreed to do that for new units.

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lazylathe

Almost there...
@blokenoname
Awesome info and thanks for sharing!

What we require here is for Tobias to be the bigger person and ask for the vape to be returned for manufacturer repairs and updates.
He should not be asking his customers to repair one of his products.

Hope this gets sorted out an the thread can resume as normal!!

Once again, it's a great vape that is gaining popularity and this issue could be a make or break for some future customers.
 

Vaporooni

Well-Known Member
Accessory Maker
Has anyone else had this issue when removing their power plug?



Mine did have a rather tight fit but when I tried to twist it back in the grooves were stripped and all it did was twist the wires a little.

My god what a terrible time to lose the daily driver...dont click if you're squeamish https://postimg.cc/bSjxh738

:cry: My pain Killer is gone...
These two will give your vape life again. I use them on all my Log vapes. I also invented an all glass Evo that you can use all your favorite hydra tubes with. Lets put all the hurt and pain behind us. This is such a good vape, We should have two. One for back up, because things do happen. I'm sure we have a few vapes sitting that need repair. We don't blame the car dealer when we get a flat tire, We just fix it and move on and keep vaping. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A5193J8 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
 
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blokenoname

DIY Log Dabbler 😁🪵💪💨💨💨
@Vaporooni

The DC jack itself got loose and came out of it's wooden socket. His PS and dimmer are ok ;)

@Azn2101

For a temporary quick fix: when the unit is opened up, wrap a strip of thin paper around the threading of the DC jack and push it back in again. Check, if it sits snug enough, so that it doesn't slip out again or twists, when you remove the plug. If not, use a bit more paper. Alternatively, use a drop of glue to fixate the jack, as Tobias suggested.

After that, tidy up the bird caged wiring, so that no strand of wire touches the wire from the other pole or the housing of the jack.

Check, if the lights come on. Close unit up.
 
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MUSA Vaporizer

Love, Peace and Harmony
Manufacturer
These two will give your vape life again. I use them on all my Log vapes. I also invented an all glass Evo that you can use all your favorite hydra tubes with. Lets put all the hurt and pain behind us. This is such a good vape, We should have two. One for back up, because things do happen. I'm sure we have a few vapes sitting that need repair. We don't blame the car dealer when we get a flat tire, We just fix it and move on and keep vaping. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00A5193J8 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B...=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o03_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

thanks @Vaporooni for your support.
the dimmer doesnt work on my vaporizer. but anyways the power supply and the temp control is not the problem.

i offerd @Azn2101 to help him via skype, i offerd him also a detailed picture manual or video to do the repair by himself.
this repair can be done by a 12 year old!
the only thing you have to do is adding a little bit glue on the correct position.
you really want to ship the musa for this little repair to germany and then back to america? that isnt very ecological.

but for sure i would have done this for him if he is not able to do it by himself!
but before i could offer it to him, he start blaming me an wrote some lies on this thread and tried to destroy my buisness!! this made me really mad because i do this for you guys, and i put all my time into it and try to help every customer with theire questions. i already have about 20 sites of private message with @Azn2101 . i was on giving him some parts for free because the shipping is so expensive, just to make him happy. And now he is criticise my user-support? REALLY?
but now he lost my friendship. some guys really need to learn that theire actions create reactions.

Azn2101 did the same thing with the apollo manufactuer!!!
exactly the same situation!!
i mean WTF? check the apollo thread for it!

but to be fair, he put much efford in, to write positive things about my vaporizer. i wont forget this.
 
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lazylathe

Almost there...
@MUSA Vaporizer

i offerd @Azn2101 to help him via skype, i offerd him also a detailed picture manual or video to do the repair by himself.
this repair can be done by a 12 year old!
the only thing you have to do is adding a little bit glue on the correct position.
you really want to ship the musa for this little repair to germany and then back to america? that isnt very ecological.

but for sure i would have done this for him if he is not able to do it by himself!
but before i could offer it to him, he start blaming me an wrote some lies on this thread and tried to destroy my buisness!! this made me really mad because i do this for you guys, and i put all my time into it and try to help every customer with theire questions. i already have about 20 sites of private message with @Azn2101 . i was on giving him some parts for free because the shipping is so expensive, just to make him happy. And now he is criticise my user-support? REALLY?
but now he lost my friendship. some guys really need to learn that theire actions create reactions.

Azn2101 did the same thing with the apollo manufactuer!!!
exactly the same situation!!
i mean WTF? check the apollo thread for it!

but to be fair, he put much efford in, to write positive things about my vaporizer. i wont forget this.

Since YOU manufacture and sell these devices, it is UP TO YOU to provide warranty to your products
If a CUSTOMER does not feel safe doing a repair, YOU HAVE TO STEP UP AND TAKE OVER!!
This is common business sense...

Not everyone is comfortable working with a soldering iron or possible does not even own one...

This kind of thing DOES NOT affect @Azn2101 at all as at the end of the day, THR MANUFACTURER SHOULD BE LOOKING AFTER HIS CUSTOMERS!!

And one last thing...
Who the F@$K cares about ecological reasons when sending ONE item back for warranty repairs???

As a manufacturer, you have disappointed me...

@Stu @pakalolo
You guys have nothing to add??
 
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Azn2101

Well-Known Member
thanks @Vaporooni for your support.
the dimmer doesnt work on my vaporizer. but anyways the power supply and the temp control is not the problem.

i offerd @Azn2101 to help him via skype, i offerd him also a detailed picture manual or video to do the repair by himself.
this repair can be done by a 12 year old!
the only thing you have to do is adding a little bit glue on the correct position.
you really want to ship the musa for this little repair to germany and then back to america? that isnt very ecological.

but for sure i would have done this for him if he is not able to do it by himself!
but before i could offer it to him, he start blaming me an wrote some lies on this thread and tried to destroy my buisness!! this made me really mad because i do this for you guys, and i put all my time into it and try to help every customer with theire questions. i already have about 20 sites of private message with @Azn2101 . i was on giving him some parts for free because the shipping is so expensive, just to make him happy. And now he is criticise my user-support? REALLY?
but now he lost my friendship. some guys really need to learn that theire actions create reactions.

Azn2101 did the same thing with the apollo manufactuer!!!
exactly the same situation!!
i mean WTF? check the apollo thread for it!

but to be fair, he put much efford in, to write positive things about my vaporizer. i wont forget this.

Dude at least he made it right by sending another unit...if those problems weren't an issue I wouldn't have brought them up and he wouldn't have sent another unit.

Not to mention the other people that brought up most of the same issues

I almost went into business with the guy and €300 is WAY different than €1300... And if you see I never released the inside info I have on his products even though we went our seperated ways.

Again man just release them (being the messages)...a few people have already seen them and DEFINITELY think you are full of shit...

Edit: I'll continue to harp on the messages because all the Points that you claim as your defense are all there and mostly bullshit except for the few things we've gotten out of the way l...which isn't much cause you're denying everything...

Edit edit: Ville took the criticism in a positive way and fixed the devices coming out of his shop from the other 2.5 models he's released since and I can still email him if I needed anything like...spare parts maybe?

Yes people get into disputes but most of the time people are able to resolve them and get past it. Something you're having a hard time doing...with both taking advice or resolving (AKA getting past) the issue.

As far as the rest of your message goes why keep adding heaps of BS to your story when it can all be told in the messages.

Everything after the fact has been public and doesn't need to be disputed but yet here you are building your own narrative when IT'S ALREADY WRITTEN IN STONE ON THIS WEBSITE. You just won't allow them to be publicly released.

You'd think someone defending their position and actions so adamantly would want to show the EASILY DOCUMENTED proof of these said (or not said lol) things. I sure as he'll would just to end this...
 
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Stu

Maconheiro
Staff member
@Stu @pakalolo
You guys have nothing to add??

I'd like to add that some of the recent comments from all parties involved could be interpreted as breaking our Be Nice rule.

Forum Rules said:
Do not post any content that harasses, insults, belittles, threatens or flames another member.

Let's play nice, folks. Take it to PMs if you can't.

:peace:
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
I'd like to add that some of the recent comments from all parties involved could be interpreted as breaking our Be Nice rule.



Let's play nice, folks. Take it to PMs if you can't.

:peace:

Seems like PM's are not solving any issues...
A defective vaporizer made by an FC manufacturer that does not want to aid the member/customer...

Seems to me customer service is totally lacking with no attempt made to repair by the manufacturer.

This would not go down well in other more popular vape threads...
 

Azn2101

Well-Known Member
Seems like PM's are not solving any issues...
A defective vaporizer made by an FC manufacturer that does not want to aid the member/customer...

Seems to me customer service is totally lacking with no attempt made to repair by the manufacturer.

This would not go down well in other more popular vape threads...

I
Thank you.

Ignoring all the drama why was the option for a return for fixing not given.

Since we're going off of public posts at this point and can't be certain what is said in PM's it was just given a message or two ago.
 

MUSA Vaporizer

Love, Peace and Harmony
Manufacturer
Seems like PM's are not solving any issues...
A defective vaporizer made by an FC manufacturer that does not want to aid the member/customer...

Seems to me customer service is totally lacking with no attempt made to repair by the manufacturer.

This would not go down well in other more popular vape threads...

I never said that I deny the repair. I dont know why you talking about that all the time. Where did you get that information from?
 
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Azn2101

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I never said that I deny the repair. I dont know why you talking about that all the time. Where did you get that information from?

You are correct. You did not say you would Deny a repair but one was not offered until just a few posts ago. You stated that:

you really want to ship the musa for this little repair to germany and then back to america? that isnt very ecological.

Then.

but for sure i would have done this for him if he is not able to do it by himself!
but before i could offer it to him

Unless I'm interpreting that wrong.
 

blokenoname

DIY Log Dabbler 😁🪵💪💨💨💨
Guys... please! :shrug:

I’m pretty sure, Tobias would have you send back the defective unit for repair. This is ‘taken for granted’ in any business.

Though I don’t sell my Misty Log officially for the time being, I handled cases like this with my beta testers as follows:

If a device breaks, I’d offer advice online for repair as far as is possible and if the beta tester is willing to do the repair by himself, because it’s maybe just a small defect, that can be easily fixed at home and so really doesn’t warrant the costs and time involved for sending a unit to and fro between Europe and the US.

If not possible (due to the extent of the damage) or the beta tester is not able or unwilling to do it himself (doesn’t matter), I'd have him send back the unit and costs for postage are equally shared, with the repair itself being free, of course.
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
:zzz:

This thread is boring, could you guys just move on? You all made your points now.

Sorry this is not about batteries, which seem to be your forte...
It seems the fundamental point of just asking for a broken device to be shipped back for immediate repairs has been missed by everyone for some reason...

I for one would love to see this happen in the Underdog, E-Nano, Woodscents or any other popular individually made vaporizer offered on this forum!
An issue like this would be ONE post long and it would be rectified.

Seems a bit odd that it has gone on for so long without any of this happening.

So glad I did not end up supporting this manufacturer.
 

pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
:zzz:

This thread is boring, could you guys just move on? You all made your points now.

Please leave moderating to the moderators.

Sorry this is not about batteries, which seem to be your forte...
It seems the fundamental point of just asking for a broken device to be shipped back for immediate repairs has been missed by everyone for some reason...

I for one would love to see this happen in the Underdog, E-Nano, Woodscents or any other popular individually made vaporizer offered on this forum!
An issue like this would be ONE post long and it would be rectified.

Seems a bit odd that it has gone on for so long without any of this happening.

So glad I did not end up supporting this manufacturer.

@KeroZen is correct, however. Please stop :horse:.

The manufacturer believes he has been reasonable. You disagree. We get it. Use PMs. Further posts from anyone along this line will be deleted and run the risk of warning points.
 

MUSA Vaporizer

Love, Peace and Harmony
Manufacturer
Guy's listen. Doing the repair by yourself is the smartest option in THIS case. My vaporizer is designed for easy user repairs. Every kid can do this. Especially this repair. It would be done in about 2 minutes. If he don't feel confident with it, he could ask a friend.
It's not about that I don't want to repair it (for sure I repair it!) but it's just stupid to ship it back to me.

Here are some reasons:

Paying 50€-80€ shipping,
about 2 months waiting time (with shipping it back),
risk that it get cought by the custom, risk additional damage by shipping,
risk that it get lost while shipping

Doing the repair by himself was just a suggestion from me and I offered him Skype video help, I offered a pictured manual and a video manual.

mod note: edited to remove continuation of dead horse beating.
 
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pakalolo

Toolbag v1.1 (candidate)
Staff member
Guy's listen. Doing the repair by yourself is the smartest option in THIS case. My vaporizer is designed for easy user repairs. Every kid can do this. Especially this repair. It would be done in about 2 minutes. If he don't feel confident with it, he could ask a friend.
It's not about that I don't want to repair it (for sure I repair it!) but it's just stupid to ship it back to me.

Here are some reasons:

Paying 50€-80€ shipping,
about 2 months waiting time (with shipping it back),
risk that it get cought by the custom, risk additional damage by shipping,
risk that it get lost while shipping

Doing the repair by himself was just a suggestion from me and I offered him Skype video help, I offered a pictured manual and a video manual.

mod note: edited to remove continuation of dead horse beating.

I realize that you were posting this while I was making my previous comment. I removed the part that continues the animosity but I'll let this part stand. Thanks for your cooperation.
 

dudeguy

Well-Known Member
To add something positive ;), when my Musa was broken (chipped wood and broken DC jack) earlier this year I wrote Tobias a PM and decided to send it back to him for repairs. He fixed it within a few days and we split the shipping costs. The whole ordeal did not take longer than two weeks and everything worked out great. This was within the EU though so there are no big shipping costs or customs who could make things complicated but I wish you the best and hope you will sort things out.
 
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lazylathe

Almost there...
To add something positive ;), when my Musa was broken (chipped wood and broken DC jack) earlier this year I wrote Tobias a PM and decided to send it back to him for repairs. He fixed it within a few days and we split the shipping costs. The whole ordeal did not take longer than two weeks and everything worked out great. This was within the EU though so there are no big shipping costs or customs who could make things complicated but I wish you the best and hope you will sort things out.

@MUSA Vaporizer

Did you offer the 50/50 shipping option to @Azn2101 from the start? Seems like a nice fair way to handle international warranty repairs and keep everyone happy.
 

ataxian

PALE BLUE DOT
@MUSA Vaporizer

Did you offer the 50/50 shipping option to @Azn2101 from the start? Seems like a nice fair way to handle international warranty repairs and keep everyone happy.
@lazylathe know’s more about CANNABIS & we need 2 give him a PHD in VAPING!

The NANO is simple & the size is perfect for a water unit!

Lazylathe is like a professional CANNABIS guru 2-me!
 

lazylathe

Almost there...
I asked @MUSA Vaporizer if there were any updates to his latest batch of units, to which I was told "No"
He sent me this pic:
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Now I see new solid core wires and a new nut on the power connector I think.
To me this is an update that people need to know about since it negates what has happened above in this thread.
Apparently a new update to how the glass is connected inside.

So a few updates that are important as this is a newer revision imo!

I have no issues with this new version but older versions should be updated or an update kit offered for those that can DIY.
 
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